Non Illuminated AV Switch malfuntion

[dpv20]

Hi i purchase a mystery box that give me a standar innitial v4 with a silver Non Illuminated AV switch, now a lot of months later and a lot of hits taken by the saber the AV switch is having a malfuntion about fake contact i think

the problem is that i cant oppen the button and no of my friends could, so we cant get what is the specific problem inside the switch, so every time i press the button i have to do it repeatedly and do it a very strong, and usually i have to hit the hilt or the blade so my saber ligths up


what can i do to repeair this problem? or how can i open the button to take a peek inside with out broken everything?
there is any youtube tutorial about this?


sorry the bad english im from chile in latin-america

[Racona Nova]

Hi dpv20,

I'm afraid the AV switch can't be opened. If the switch is malfunctioning, you have to replace it.
Is your saber more than a year old? If yes, you can do the replacement yourself. Just order a new switch, gently heat the glue inside, pull the switch out, cut the wires, resolder the wires to the new switch, push the switch back in and let the glue cool down until it's solid.

If your saber is less than a year old, you should send it back to Ultrasabers for a replacement switch as the saber is under warranty and modifying the electronics will void the warranty. In this case, contact Ultrasabers via marlena@ultrasabers.com for further information about the procedure.

Hope that helps!

Racona

PS: Your English isn't that bad

[dpv20]

i live in a country to far away so is not convenient to ship it back and them get it back again, where can i bougth a new switch? because i dont see it in the parts section

[Cyclops942]

i live in a country to far away so is not convenient to ship it back and them get it back again, where can i bougth a new switch? because i dont see it in the parts section

Check the Electronics section.  I found illuminated Anti Vandal switches there.

Anti Vandal?  Really, THAT is what AV stands for?  I want the explanation there... I was thinking AV was a reference to Audio/Visual (like when I was in the AV club in school.. yes, I was that much of a nerd, and yes, it was that long ago).  And relax, dpv20, I don't expect you to be the one to answer that. 

[Racona Nova]

Yes, you can order an illuminated switch and specifiy in the Order Comments that you want a non-illuminated switch instead. I suggest asking Marlena first (email address in my first post) if that's the correct procedure and then you can order the switch.

And yes, AV stands for Anti Vandal here. When I saw that during my first order, I couldn't figure out what Audio/Video has to do with those switches - so I thought exactly the same like you But after thinking about it, I realized that it wouldn't make much sense here, right?

[Cyclops942]

And yes, AV stands for Anti Vandal here. When I saw that during my first order, I couldn't figure out what Audio/Video has to do with those switches - so I thought exactly the same like you But after thinking about it, I realized that it wouldn't make much sense here, right?

To me, Audio/Video makes LOTS of sense... the button controls the Audio functions and the Video (or at least changes in light level) effects.  Anti Vandal is what confuses me... how does that switch confound someone trying to vandalize the saber hilt?

[dpv20]

i cant put an illuminated AV switch in a basic sable rigth? i need a non illuminated AV switch?

[KaiserSosay]

i cant put an illuminated AV switch in a basic sable rigth? i need a non illuminated AV switch?

For a no sound saber you need a latching switch. They do make latching illuminated av switches but ultrasabers does not sell them. Like Racona Nova suggested contact Marlena with customer service.
Ultrasabers does use latching non illuminated av switches in their builds but do not sell them separately on site. Marlena can probably help you get one.

Check the Electronics section.  I found illuminated Anti Vandal switches there.

Anti Vandal?  Really, THAT is what AV stands for?  I want the explanation there... I was thinking AV was a reference to Audio/Visual (like when I was in the AV club in school.. yes, I was that much of a nerd, and yes, it was that long ago).  And relax, dpv20, I don't expect you to be the one to answer that. 

Anti vandal in reference is to the fact that once the switch is installed, it can not be tampered with or vandalized/disconnected from the outside.

[KaiserSosay]

Sound sabers use momentary switches. Stunt sabers use latching switches.  Av switches are just the "style" of switch.  The "type" of switch you need is a latching switch.
 So you could technically use a illuminated av switch. You just need to make sure it is a "latching"  illuminated av switch.
 Hope the clears things up a little more.

[dpv20]

thanks for the answers guys !!! love u all <3

[Cyclops942]

Anti vandal in reference is to the fact that once the switch is installed, it can not be tampered with or vandalized/disconnected from the outside.

So... the guarded switch in/on my stunt saber can be removed from the outside?  I didn’t know that; I’ve never even tried.

Thanks for the explanation!



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[tx_tuff]

Check with The Custom Saber Shop (website) they will have the switch you need. It's under latching, AV style.

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[Racona Nova]

So... the guarded switch in/on my stunt saber can be removed from the outside?  I didn’t know that; I’ve never even tried.

Thanks for the explanation!

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The guarded switches on Ultrasabers are only press-fit and can be pryed out with a screwdriver quite easily whereas the AV switches are hot-glued. Removing them is much more difficult - you need to open the saber and remove the glue before you can take the switch out. Other AV switch installs (on elevators and such) are secured in a different way, but with the same effect - you can't remove them without disassembling/destroying the whole control panel.

And you can't jam them - non-AV switches can be pressed and locked in a place where they give a constant signal, which renders the system controlled by it more or less useless. AV switches work differently, which makes them "immune" to such attempts.

And one more aspect to the Anti-Vandal/Audio-Video confusion: AV switches already existed on Ultrasabers before Emerald and Diamond came up. So calling them "Audio/Video" switches on a saber that doesn't have one of those boards is quite weird, isn't it?

[Cyclops942]

The guarded switches on Ultrasabers are only press-fit and can be pryed out with a screwdriver quite easily whereas the AV switches are hot-glued. Removing them is much more difficult - you need to open the saber and remove the glue before you can take the switch out. Other AV switch installs (on elevators and such) are secured in a different way, but with the same effect - you can't remove them without disassembling/destroying the whole control panel.

And you can't jam them - non-AV switches can be pressed and locked in a place where they give a constant signal, which renders the system controlled by it more or less useless. AV switches work differently, which makes them "immune" to such attempts.

And one more aspect to the Anti-Vandal/Audio-Video confusion: AV switches already existed on Ultrasabers before Emerald and Diamond came up. So calling them "Audio/Video" switches on a saber that doesn't have one of those boards is quite weird, isn't it?

Nope, not weird at all, to me; they've ALWAYS controlled the audio (sound on/off) and video (light on/off).  But it's nice to have both the right answer and the explanation of why it's right.

[KaiserSosay]

@Racona Nova is correct.
 The guarded switches are pressed into place. The guarded switches do have threads on the base though. The whole switch is plastic and so the threads strip to easily to actually use. Pressing the switch into place is very secure, unless you remove it. Then the plastic lip that holds it in starts to wear down and the switch pops out. I would not recommend removing it unless you have to. Have hot glue on hand for the reinstall.

 The av switches I have seen and used all had metal bases and threads. On the ultrasabers I have disassemble with av switches, there has always been a nut on the switch holding it in place. The hot glue you see is keeping the nut from loosening.  From my experience at least, that is what you should expect.  Glue, then a nut you need to loosen and remove. Then the switch should just slide out.
 Guarded switches, I just pry it out with a screwdriver as already suggested!