Return of the Saber Doodles

[PsychoSith]

Hey all!

Got a couple things for you. First off, I've been playing a LOT of Ace Combat lately, and thus inspired todays sketch of the Razgriz.




Now here's the REALLY fun bit. For Tyeth took upon himself the project of rendering the Altenweg II and did nothing short of a phenomenal job!









All credit for those renderings to For Tyeth (obviously).

[TheDutchman]

Hey all!

Got a couple things for you. First off, I've been playing a LOT of Ace Combat lately, and thus inspired todays sketch of the Razgriz.

This is gorgeous!  Incredibly elegant design, I LOVE the wings!  Scratch that: I love the ENTIRE saber!!

Now here's the REALLY fun bit. For Tyeth took upon himself the project of rendering the Altenweg II and did nothing short of a phenomenal job!









All credit for those renderings to For Tyeth (obviously).

Wow!  WOW!!  WOW!!!  OK, I have always maintained that FT is an amazing artist...but this goes BEYOND that!  This collaboration between you two: PHENOMENAL!!  This is EXACTLY why I love Fan-created work(s) so much!

Gentlemen: my compliments to you both!!

[janx]

Looking good.  The RazGriz is definitely unlike other designs, a more delicate, artful look.  I could see River Song in a murder ballet with that thing.

Also, nice renderings of AltenWig by FT

[PsychoSith]

This is gorgeous!  Incredibly elegant design, I LOVE the wings!  Scratch that: I love the ENTIRE saber!!
Wow!  WOW!!  WOW!!!  OK, I have always maintained that FT is an amazing artist...but this goes BEYOND that!  This collaboration between you two: PHENOMENAL!!  This is EXACTLY why I love Fan-created work(s) so much!

Gentlemen: my compliments to you both!!

FT really did the heavy lifting here - his skills in blender are really somethin. I just penned a doodle 

Looking good.  The RazGriz is definitely unlike other designs, a more delicate, artful look.  I could see River Song in a murder ballet with that thing.

Also, nice renderings of AltenWig by FT

I can see it. Firefly and Serenity dont get enough love.

[Lord_S_Gray]

This is gorgeous!  Incredibly elegant design, I LOVE the wings!  Scratch that: I love the ENTIRE saber!!
Wow!  WOW!!  WOW!!!  OK, I have always maintained that FT is an amazing artist...but this goes BEYOND that!  This collaboration between you two: PHENOMENAL!!  This is EXACTLY why I love Fan-created work(s) so much!

Gentlemen: my compliments to you both!!

Totally agree, very nice realisation of the doodle, a very unique sabre for sure, FT really captured how bright and sleek it is - great job both of you.

[For Tyeth]

Totally agree, very nice realisation of the doodle, a very unique sabre for sure, FT really captured how bright and sleek it is - great job both of you.

Hi Janx, Lord_S_Gray and TheDutchman, thanks for the kind comments on "my work" but I was only responsible for the renders and making Altenweg II a 3D model, the design and credit belong to PsychoSith for his original beautiful vision.

Also I need to say thanks to Lord_S_Gray for hinting at the idea that I make a render.

[PsychoSith]

Got two more for y'all today.

The Chimera, made from Blaster components


And the Astartes, because why should Space Marines be left out of the fun?

[janx]

I like the Chimera's ergonomic grip and the gritty fins.  Also reminds me of a Zippo lighter.

The Astartes cross-guard aligns with some thinking I've had since you started posting these.

The core problem with Kylo Ren's saber is that in real life, crossguards were meant to catch the saber, but in all cases, if the opponent's saber slid down the blade, it wouldn't do it's job.

The angled bits certainly reduce the risk of self-chopping a wrist. 

Take a ponder at a configuration that enables the prongs to properly catch a blade in the crease.  perhaps a tighter V or X.

I'd like to see what you come up with.

[PsychoSith]

I like the Chimera's ergonomic grip and the gritty fins.  Also reminds me of a Zippo lighter.

The Astartes cross-guard aligns with some thinking I've had since you started posting these.

The core problem with Kylo Ren's saber is that in real life, crossguards were meant to catch the saber, but in all cases, if the opponent's saber slid down the blade, it wouldn't do it's job.

The angled bits certainly reduce the risk of self-chopping a wrist. 

Take a ponder at a configuration that enables the prongs to properly catch a blade in the crease.  perhaps a tighter V or X.

I'd like to see what you come up with.

Thought of that myself. There are plenty of examples of perfectly perpendicular crossguards so Kylo's doesn't bother me too much - however I am a fan of the V shaped crossguards as you can see. Been wanting to do more sketches involving crossguards so i'll take your suggestions into account

[For Tyeth]

Hi PsychoSith,

Congrats on another nice pair of sabers, and a nice nod to the armed forces around the galaxy!
Crossguards do have limitations because they don't catch and bind a blade like a steel edge but Kylo did adapt using the feature - using the quillion to inflict injury on Finn when close up.
 

The core problem with Kylo Ren's saber is that in real life, crossguards were meant to catch the saber, but in all cases, if the opponent's saber slid down the blade, it wouldn't do it's job.

The angled bits certainly reduce the risk of self-chopping a wrist. 

Take a ponder at a configuration that enables the prongs to properly catch a blade in the crease.  perhaps a tighter V or X.

And hello janx, I have made a few V and X guards and the problems still persist (well in real life designs because we need to find space in the hilt to place the LED modules whereas in the SW Universe they don't have that problem) However if you'd like to see my takes on the V cross guard and X-Guard (I hope you don't mind PsychoSith) I'll leave a few links to my models.

New Asguard (V cross Guard)
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg711168#msg711168

Throne Room Saber (X-Guard)
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=40017.msg711168#msg711168

Thanks for sharing and I look forward to your next postings. Point inbound.

[PsychoSith]

Hi PsychoSith,

Congrats on another nice pair of sabers, and a nice nod to the armed forces around the galaxy!
Crossguards do have limitations because they don't catch and bind a blade like a steel edge but Kylo did adapt using the feature - using the quillion to inflict injury on Finn when close up.
 

Thanks for saying so! Also might do another hilt before th day is out. Really thinking hard on crossguard designs and how one might make them work best on a saber

[PsychoSith]

Hey all! Sorry I didnt get this posted yesterday, but I had gotten busy and also wanted to take my time with this one.

Following our conversations regarding x-guards, I wanted to create a saber that was primarily a practical weapon to wield.
I think I succeeded,

Meet the Crusader


So to review a few of the highlights here, this is a double-handed hilt with vertical grips for better orientation control on the xguard. Xguard has rear-facing shrouds so the user can use rest their hands on the choke comfortably without burning fingers, while also exposing the saber in the front for catching the opponents blade. Forward choke is placed to allow single handed use if needed, also the position of the longer "pressure" switch you've seen on a few of my designs, to ensure ignition control while single handing. Power indicator placed on the power matrix housing. Pommel ring for storing.

The real pride here is the "bladecage". On the xguard shrouds and emitter, you'll see a cage-like structure. This would be a cortosis "blade cage" that is kept out of contact with the important components of the saber, being mounted on the outer housing. For any who might not know, cortosis in Star Wars is a brittle metal alloy that can temporarily short-out lightsabers on contact with the blade. This is used here in the x-guard and emitter to catch then subsequently de-activate your opponents blade, leaving them defenseless for either a riposte, or forced surrender.


Whew! Think I covered everything. Let me know what you guys think / ideas you'd like to see!

[janx]

Cortosis is a clever idea.  Definitely handy to have at any of the corners/tsuba where a blade might slide down and damage the hilt itself.


I think this design covers the safety and the "real sword fighting" factors I had in mind.  Well done!

Also, it looks great.

[TheDutchman]

Hey all! Sorry I didnt get this posted yesterday, but I had gotten busy and also wanted to take my time with this one.

Following our conversations regarding x-guards, I wanted to create a saber that was primarily a practical weapon to wield.
I think I succeeded,

Meet the Crusader


So to review a few of the highlights here, this is a double-handed hilt with vertical grips for better orientation control on the xguard. Xguard has rear-facing shrouds so the user can use rest their hands on the choke comfortably without burning fingers, while also exposing the saber in the front for catching the opponents blade. Forward choke is placed to allow single handed use if needed, also the position of the longer "pressure" switch you've seen on a few of my designs, to ensure ignition control while single handing. Power indicator placed on the power matrix housing. Pommel ring for storing.

The real pride here is the "bladecage". On the xguard shrouds and emitter, you'll see a cage-like structure. This would be a cortosis "blade cage" that is kept out of contact with the important components of the saber, being mounted on the outer housing. For any who might not know, cortosis in Star Wars is a brittle metal alloy that can temporarily short-out lightsabers on contact with the blade. This is used here in the x-guard and emitter to catch then subsequently de-activate your opponents blade, leaving them defenseless for either a riposte, or forced surrender.


Whew! Think I covered everything. Let me know what you guys think / ideas you'd like to see!

Wow PS, I REALLY like this hilt!  The cortosis construction is a nice touch (and like you said: the properties of the ore make for an excellent defensive measure  ).  Brilliant: the design is reminiscent of a Scottish claymore    I love the attention to detail (I can't even draw stick figures  ).

With the past examples of cross-guard sabers, I wanted to make a suggestion (since you and For Tyeth have the design/visual skills  ): I'd love to see a truly dedicated two-handed heavy saber (think in line with a German Zweihänder).  Something from the New Sith Wars (or similar provenance) where hand-to-hand was commonplace.  

Anyhow: yet another wonderful saber (just my opinion: your best yet) PS!

[PsychoSith]

Wow PS, I REALLY like this hilt!  The cortosis construction is a nice touch (and like you said: the properties of the ore make for an excellent defensive measure  ).  Brilliant: the design is reminiscent of a Scottish claymore    I love the attention to detail (I can't even draw stick figures  ).

With the past examples of cross-guard sabers, I wanted to make a suggestion (since you and For Tyeth have the design/visual skills  ): I'd love to see a truly dedicated two-handed heavy saber (think in line with a German Zweihänder).  Something from the New Sith Wars (or similar provenance) where hand-to-hand was commonplace.  

Anyhow: yet another wonderful saber (just my opinion: your best yet) PS!

I do enjoy Zweihanders....