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Illyiss
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« on: July 28, 2019, 09:50:11 PM »

A different way of looking at the lines of both the Jedi and Sith codes, without accounting for direct bias of the orders, or the surrounding ideologies.  I am open to thoughts, discussion, I only ask that if you can't be constructive, or polite, please don't be a drek head about it.  It's taken a lot for me to put this here.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xLNpDuSM5greMQTxWi1KWXZHVdG-V-UDKbko4Y0ZRwk/edit?usp=sharing
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2019, 11:00:42 PM »

BRAVO! Thank you for sharing that, Illyiss!
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2019, 04:14:08 AM »

Thank you for that, Illyiss.  I'll give it a read and will get back to you
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2019, 10:45:40 AM »

Saw that title, will be parsing through that later! Point!
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2019, 11:14:00 AM »

What the hell guys? READ IT!
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2019, 11:32:40 AM »

What the hell guys? READ IT!

I'm guessing they are at work or otherwise having to wait till later to give it attention.  I am glad you like it. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2019, 11:40:31 AM »

I'm guessing they are at work or otherwise having to wait till later to give it attention.  I am glad you like it. Smiley

I really did. Smiley I'm just giving everyone a hard time today. But it all... mostly, comes from a loving place.
Seriously though, READ THIS you dorks! One love.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2019, 01:23:14 PM »

I'm guessing they are at work or otherwise having to wait till later to give it attention.  I am glad you like it. Smiley

Aye. still am for another hour  Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2019, 02:09:00 PM »

-1 point to you for a very thought out interpretation of both codes and their meanings.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2019, 02:23:44 PM »

-1 point to you for a very thought out interpretation of both codes and their meanings.

Thank you!  A +1 to you in return.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2019, 09:35:12 AM »

Any of you planning to, get a chance to read through yet?
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2019, 04:16:22 PM »

Any of you planning to, get a chance to read through yet?

I've read through it once, but will need to re-read it to really delve into some of the ideas, I like the concepts combined here e.g. avoiding a peace/emotion dichotomy as over focus on one produces a dissonance, speaks to an idea of a dynamic equilibrium in my mind, no one can ever be perfectly balanced/free of dissonance as you talk about in the passion/serentiy section "serenity is not a place one can dwell within indefinitely, as the longer we neglect our passions, the more dissonance and dissatisfaction enter into our minds, hearts, our spirits."

Will certainly get more into it when i have more time to re-read but i like your overall approach here, and you make some very thought provoking points.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2019, 08:54:13 PM »

I've read through it once, but will need to re-read it to really delve into some of the ideas, I like the concepts combined here e.g. avoiding a peace/emotion dichotomy as over focus on one produces a dissonance, speaks to an idea of a dynamic equilibrium in my mind, no one can ever be perfectly balanced/free of dissonance as you talk about in the passion/serentiy section "serenity is not a place one can dwell within indefinitely, as the longer we neglect our passions, the more dissonance and dissatisfaction enter into our minds, hearts, our spirits."

Will certainly get more into it when i have more time to re-read but i like your overall approach here, and you make some very thought provoking points.

Thank you, and I look forward to hearing your further thoughts on this. Smiley  Point.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2019, 09:19:17 PM »

I've read through it once, but will need to re-read it to really delve into some of the ideas, I like the concepts combined here e.g. avoiding a peace/emotion dichotomy as over focus on one produces a dissonance, speaks to an idea of a dynamic equilibrium in my mind, no one can ever be perfectly balanced/free of dissonance as you talk about in the passion/serentiy section "serenity is not a place one can dwell within indefinitely, as the longer we neglect our passions, the more dissonance and dissatisfaction enter into our minds, hearts, our spirits."

Will certainly get more into it when i have more time to re-read but i like your overall approach here, and you make some very thought provoking points.

Well said. All I could say was "bravo". I'm jealous of you writer types and your ability to break things down the way you do. Thanks for expressing what I was feeling about this piece. Point.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2019, 08:46:32 AM »

Eloquent as always, Illyiss.

As LSG pointed out, the dichotomy between the Jedi and Sith is one of the reasons that I felt that the Gray Jedi were an interesting synthesis, both as an example of such and the fact that (even despite that synthesis), the Gray also fall prey to some of the same problems that infect both Light- and Dark-Side ideologies.  Consequently, ALL of it--ESPECIALLY Illyiss' points--makes for excellent storytelling  Smiley

By-the-by, here's an example of the Gray Code (admittedly, there are many but this one is my favorite):

Flowing through all, there is balance
There is no peace without passion to create
There is no passion without peace to guide
Knowledge stagnates without the strength to act
Power blinds without the serenity to see
There is freedom in life
There is purpose in death
The Force is all things and I am the Force
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