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« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2019, 08:22:04 PM »

It depends for me.  That is just JJ Abrams giving his  buddy a big Star Wars fantasy.  But a Clone going way out in the middle of nowhere to live a peaceful life isn't far fetched nor him having children.  As well, again IMO, the more it ties back the better.  I want those connections because they already shown me they can't much with anything new.
Then the idea was already done in TCW. And according to SWR, weren't Rex, Wolf, and Gregor the only three that retired?

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« Reply #76 on: December 04, 2019, 09:43:37 PM »

Then the idea was already done in TCW. And according to SWR, weren't Rex, Wolf, and Gregor the only three that retired?
C'est la vie.

Yes, it was shown in TCW...which is why that Theory in my head.  I don't think it said specifically they were the only ones...but I never meant retired.  Went Awol, left for dead, etc.  All kinds of differents ways he could have been there.  With Thousands of Clones fighting in Dozens of Systems..there cant have just be one who left the army.
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« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2019, 09:48:38 PM »

Yes, it was shown in TCW...which is why that Theory in my head.  I don't think it said specifically they were the only ones...but I never meant retired.  Went Awol, left for dead, etc.  All kinds of differents ways he could have been there.  With Thousands of Clones fighting in Dozens of Systems..their cant have just be one who left the army.
I guess that could work, but it's kinda phoned in.
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« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2019, 09:51:22 PM »

I guess that could work, but it's kinda phoned in.

For me it would show how Far Reaching the Clone Wars really changed the Galaxy.  But, her Husband may have shown her and its just an interesting part of her character with no connection.
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« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2019, 05:27:05 AM »

Alright who’s seen episode five? This is your spoiler warning.
Man what a trip down memory lane.
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« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2019, 08:40:26 PM »

I dunno. Episode 5 felt kinda weak to me. I didn't dislike it, it just didn't feel like it added a whole lot to the story whatsoever. The ending scene is the only thing that had me at all interested in anything. Still, know Filoni, nothing he does is ever just "filler", so we'll see what happens with it.
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« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2019, 09:50:55 PM »

I felt like the last two were kind of weak.  Ch. 4 was your typically predictable "Let's teach the locals how to stand up to the bullies" episode that just about every other sci-fi show has done.  It was almost beat for beat like every one of those types of episodes.  This one was again predictable as one of those "I'll help the new guy" episodes.  I still enjoyed them but I hope they don't keep following the same predictable tropes. 

I did enjoy the callbacks to ANH.
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« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2019, 10:20:13 PM »

Agreed. My brother literally called it a rip off of The Magnificent Seven. Which is definitely true, but I instantly thought of the episodes of TCW rather than Magnificent Seven. Still, a decent episode, but nothing special. I'm hoping these ones are the only ones that are like this, and we don't get a lot of meh episodes.
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« Reply #83 on: December 09, 2019, 09:31:26 PM »

it just didn't feel like it added a whole lot to the story whatsoever.
It didn't.....at least not foreseeable.

For those that aren't terribly versed in the classics, the style of this series is that of a Western. "Mando" or "The Mandalorian" are what others call him, but he literally is The Man{do Tongue} with No Name. He's the lone gunslinger; dark and mysterious. He can't stay put, so he drifts from place to place looking for means to survive. In fact, most of the characters have no names, only generalized character descriptions. 'The Child', 'the Client', etc. I actually respect the simplicity they've employed to tell this story.

What really sells this to me as a Western is the cheesy dialogue. It's over emphasized and sometimes even superfluous. I noticed this most with Greef Karga.


As far as the episode, I was a little disappointed by the phoned in locale, BUT it did make some sense. Considering the history of the franchise, Tatooine always shows up. This may be one tradition faux pas that is killing the sequels: No Tatooine. But back to the show. Given that the bounty had professional ties to the Hutt Cartel, it could stand to reason that she was very familiar with the area, and possibly had places to hole up. I won't discount that Mando just happened to be in that general area by chance.

I wasn't a fan of how the dog fight played out. I know different craft have different specs and abilities, but I thought it was a bit overkill that the Razor Crest is taking hits with minor damage, but then one shot and the enemy goes down like a lady of ill-repute. But what I hated most was the Top Gun ripoff of hitting the brakes. YOU'RE IN SPACE! There are NO brakes. Reverse thrust, yes. But NO BRAKES.

After researching, I was pleased that they didn't blatantly ripoff Owen Lars' swoop design. I'm not opposed to that speeder bike design being favorable for the hot desert terrain of Tatooine. I really enjoyed just cruisin' over the Dune sea.

And then there was the mystery cliffhanger dude. WTF? I hate you all, die in a fire. I MUST KNOW WHO THIS IS, NNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUU. I cannot wait a week, or however long they decide to bring this to fruition.
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« Reply #84 on: December 10, 2019, 01:56:23 PM »



I wasn't a fan of how the dog fight played out. I know different craft have different specs and abilities, but I thought it was a bit overkill that the Razor Crest is taking hits with minor damage, but then one shot and the enemy goes down like a lady of ill-repute. But what I hated most was the Top Gun ripoff of hitting the brakes. YOU'RE IN SPACE! There are NO brakes. Reverse thrust, yes. But NO BRAKES.”

I will agree with the taking hits then killing the other guy with one shot but it all comes down to shields. It’s quite possible that the guy chasing him had his shields all toward the front and when caught off guard didn’t get to switch them to the rear. Though I’m just reaching at this point for a possible reason.

As far as the “Top Gun” maneuver. I will have to watch it again but I could have swore when he did that it showed flaps opening on the thrusters to become reverse thrusters.
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« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2019, 02:10:15 PM »



As far as the “Top Gun” maneuver. I will have to watch it again but I could have swore when he did that it showed flaps opening on the thrusters to become reverse thrusters.
But what I hated most was the Top Gun ripoff of hitting the brakes. YOU'RE IN SPACE! There are NO brakes. Reverse thrust, yes. But NO BRAKES.



Can confirm, the flaps opening on the engine were meant to mimic modern thrust reversers on big airline engines.

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It's one of those pieces of tech that looks kinda stupid because its the most basic idea possible; panels move into place to literally just redirect the thrust flow backwards.
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« Reply #86 on: December 10, 2019, 03:02:01 PM »

Hi all,

Using "Vectored Thrust" has been a feature of military air combat for quite a while. During the Falklands conflict Harrier Jump Jet pilots of the RAF used to perform a maneuver known as "VIFFing" or Vectoring In Forward Flight. The Harrier has engine nozzles that pivot approx 100degs from fully aft (giving forward thrust) through to about 10 degrees forward of vertical down for vertical and short take off and landings.

To perform a VIFF the aircraft begins with the nozzles fully aft for forward flight and when needed the pilot moves the nozzle position lever to swing the nozzles to the forward position. This slows the jet like applying the speed brake however the Harrier pilot could also just move the lever to point the nozzles down vertical which made the aircraft "Jump" making any chasing aircraft overshoot underneath allowing the Harrier to drop back down behind the chase plane.

This was way back in 1982 - four years before Top Gun did their "breaking maneuvers". Nice to hear that this trick s being used in a galaxy in the future!!
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« Reply #87 on: December 10, 2019, 03:09:48 PM »

Hi all,

Using "Vectored Thrust" has been a feature of military air combat for quite a while. During the Falklands conflict Harrier Jump Jet pilots of the RAF used to perform a maneuver known as "VIFFing" or Vectoring In Forward Flight. The Harrier has engine nozzles that pivot approx 100degs from fully aft (giving forward thrust) through to about 10 degrees forward of vertical down for vertical and short take off and landings.

To perform a VIFF the aircraft begins with the nozzles fully aft for forward flight and when needed the pilot moves the nozzle position lever to swing the nozzles to the forward position. This slows the jet like applying the speed brake however the Harrier pilot could also just move the lever to point the nozzles down vertical which made the aircraft "Jump" making any chasing aircraft overshoot underneath allowing the Harrier to drop back down behind the chase plane.

This was way back in 1982 - four years before Top Gun did their "breaking maneuvers". Nice to hear that this trick s being used in a galaxy in the future!!

To add to this, thrust vectoring is also used prominently (though not to the same degree as the Harrier) on some modern aircraft such as the Sukhoi SU-57 and F-22A making the capable of "supermanueverability" where the aircraft can continue to perform and orient even while in a stall condition (also called a Post Stall Maneuver)

I intentionally left out the F-35 because its hot trash and i refuse to give it credit. I digress, back to Mando
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« Reply #88 on: December 10, 2019, 04:26:17 PM »

As far as the “Top Gun” maneuver. I will have to watch it again but I could have swore when he did that it showed flaps opening on the thrusters to become reverse thrusters.
That scene bugged me, so I rewatched. If I saw it correctly, then I saw what you did. The flaps were venting forward thrust in order to brake. But the bogey's flight mask was spontaneously removed so we could see him scream. <rolls eyes>


AND HOW THE #$%& DID I FORGET ABOUT THE TUSKENS? I thought that was really neat how he just coolly starts negotiation for passage. I particularly loved that it shows them as simply misunderstood and therefore perpetually pissed off because everyone regards them as "mindless animals".

Not so hyped about the retro droids showing up. The pit droids were less objectionable because of their inherent function of maintenance and repair, but also because....well, they're silly.

This was way back in 1982 - four years before Top Gun did their "breaking maneuvers". Nice to hear that this trick s being used in a galaxy in the future!!
My reference to Top Gun was merely the line "I'm gonna hit the brakes and let him fly right by." I always took this to mean he was going to drastically cut his thrust, not that the F-14 had brakes.
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« Reply #89 on: December 10, 2019, 04:28:45 PM »

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I wasn't a fan of how the dog fight played out. I know different craft have different specs and abilities, but I thought it was a bit overkill that the Razor Crest is taking hits with minor damage, but then one shot and the enemy goes down like a lady of ill-repute. But what I hated most was the Top Gun ripoff of hitting the brakes. YOU'RE IN SPACE! There are NO brakes. Reverse thrust, yes. But NO BRAKES.”

I didn't know about the Top Gun thing, but in the Old canon, Boba Fett used this same move on IG-88 using inertial dampeners (or some other random science jargon) That's what I thought he did, and that would work better than brakes because there's still inertia in space.
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