Fallen Order Shows Where Starkiller Base Came From

[PsychoSith]

Spoilers for Fallen Order below
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The Empire has been busy giving Ilum a facelift....

[Darth Tepes]

Most figured this was the case, but of course now it is confirmed.

[PsychoSith]

Most figured this was the case, but of course now it is confirmed.

Nice to have that confirmation. I appreciate the notion that such an engineering project did take an extreme length of time.

[Darth Logos]

I still don't bite. HOW do you a) gut that much of planet without upsetting gravitational stability, and b) dig that far into the interior WITHOUT hitting




Also, I've never seen a depiction of Illum with ANY signs of life. SKB had trees.

[PsychoSith]

I still don't bite. HOW do you a) gut that much of planet without upsetting gravitational stability, and b) dig that far into the interior WITHOUT hitting




Also, I've never seen a depiction of Illum with ANY signs of life. SKB had trees.

-Gravitational anomalies is a fair criticism, though this a problem that crops up more time than you may suspect in Star Wars, the Death Star in particular has ISSUES especially when you factor in both old and new canon cutaways.

-THEORETICALLY if the planet was totally geologically dead (which very well could be), you could go quite a ways before hitting a mantle or core. This would also all depend on how deep the trench is, what precautions were taken, how big Ilum is, how geologically dead it is, how large the core is in relation to the size of the planet, is the core spinning, what its made out of etc etc etc.

For these points my advice would be the same with analyzing the travesty of a realistic Death Star: Space Magic

As for the trees, best guess it *is* a whole planet. Star Wars has a bad habit of saying "This whole planet is a Desert/City/Tundra/Ocean" etc. So two possibilities here:
1) Ilum has a more temperate climate than wherever the Jedi Temple was located.

2) [My personal opinion] The First Order's construction of a mega-base complete with massive Star-Destroying weapon, countless surface emplacements, multiple points of industry and DECADES of industrialism has warmed Ilum's atmosphere enough where life is more practical on the surface.

[Darth Logos]

-Gravitational anomalies is a fair criticism, though this a problem that crops up more time than you may suspect in Star Wars, the Death Star in particular has ISSUES especially when you factor in both old and new canon cutaways.

Inside the structure, I'm not worried. I just always applied that there is some tech method of generating artificial gravity built into the decks of ships space stations. But on the surface of the planet....that's a different story.

-THEORETICALLY if the planet was totally geologically dead (which very well could be), you could go quite a ways before hitting a mantle or core. This would also all depend on how deep the trench is, what precautions were taken, how big Ilum is, how geologically dead it is, how large the core is in relation to the size of the planet, is the core spinning, what its made out of etc etc etc.

Just look at it. They've pretty much removed half the diameter of the equatorial region. Plus all the machinery that is beneath the visible surface.

For these points my advice would be the same with analyzing the travesty of a realistic Death Star: Space Magic

Not sure what you mean by this.

As for the trees, best guess it *is* a whole planet. Star Wars has a bad habit of saying "This whole planet is a Desert/City/Tundra/Ocean" etc. So two possibilities here:
1) Ilum has a more temperate climate than wherever the Jedi Temple was located.

True. I've had similar thoughts. The shortcomings of filming on planet with climate variations.

2) [My personal opinion] The First Order's construction of a mega-base complete with massive Star-Destroying weapon, countless surface emplacements, multiple points of industry and DECADES of industrialism has warmed Ilum's atmosphere enough where life is more practical on the surface.

Uh....no

[PsychoSith]

Inside the structure, I'm not worried. I just always applied that there is some tech method of generating artificial gravity built into the decks of ships space stations. But on the surface of the planet....that's a different story.
Just look at it. They've pretty much removed half the diameter of the equatorial region. Plus all the machinery that is beneath the visible surface.

True SKB is a little more extreme, however if the Death Star was made out of materials that are capable of withstanding gravitational forces without buckling (which it would need to otherwise the Station would implode) then I'd say its fair they reinforce much of the internal structure of SKB in a similar manner.

Uh....no

Mind you not saying the whole planet, but the heat given off from the industrial sections of the base could be the difference between a -50 degree frozen wasteland and a 15 degree Tundra. Either explanation i find satisfying though, I just usually find the more fantastic elements captivating.

[Darth Tepes]

I still don't bite. HOW do you a) gut that much of planet without upsetting gravitational stability, and b) dig that far into the interior WITHOUT hitting




Also, I've never seen a depiction of Illum with ANY signs of life. SKB had trees.

According to Wookiepedia..they did hit magma. 

The Empire quickly began strip-mining Ilum, revealing magma bubbling from Ilum's core.[10] The entrance to the Jedi Temple had been destroyed to allow access to the crystal caves.[2] A massive mining ship, as well as two Imperial Star Destroyers, stood watch over the planet to gain its riches.[10] The Empire used geothermal energy from the planet's core to power their machinery and control the internal temperature of their industrial operations. Harmful byproducts were created as a result, causing destruction to Ilum's pristine ecosystem.[11]

[PsychoSith]

According to Wookiepedia..they did hit magma. 

The Empire quickly began strip-mining Ilum, revealing magma bubbling from Ilum's core.[10] The entrance to the Jedi Temple had been destroyed to allow access to the crystal caves.[2] A massive mining ship, as well as two Imperial Star Destroyers, stood watch over the planet to gain its riches.[10] The Empire used geothermal energy from the planet's core to power their machinery and control the internal temperature of their industrial operations. Harmful byproducts were created as a result, causing destruction to Ilum's pristine ecosystem.[11]

Kind of answers everything except for the gravity, which can be explained by super-materials holding everything in place like I earlier suggested

[Racona Nova]

I knew it I always suspected Ilum to be the planet that was transformed into SKB. Especially because of its huge historical importance for the Jedi Order and tactical importance for the Empire - no Ilum, no more Kyber crystals for new lightsabers, no new Jedi Order. The Empire used the last Ilum crystals for the Death Star Superlasers while slowly transforming the planet.

[Darth Tepes]

I knew it I always suspected Ilum to be the planet that was transformed into SKB. Especially because of its huge historical importance for the Jedi Order and tactical importance for the Empire - no Ilum, no more Kyber crystals for new lightsabers, no new Jedi Order. The Empire used the last Ilum crystals for the Death Star Superlasers while slowly transforming the planet.

Kyber Crystals can be found on other planets....But Ilum by far had the largest concentration of them as well as having a spiritual significance

[Racona Nova]

But weren't the Ilum Kyber crystals the most powerful compared to the other types, which made them the ideal component for lightsabers? I thought so....but I could be wrong. After all the canon changes, it's still difficult to get it right

[Darth Tepes]

But weren't the Ilum Kyber crystals the most powerful compared to the other types, which made them the ideal component for lightsabers? I thought so....but I could be wrong. After all the canon changes, it's still difficult to get it right

In current canon there is no "stronger" or "weaker" when it comes to crystals.  Its more about its connection to the wielder

[PsychoSith]

In current canon there is no "stronger" or "weaker" when it comes to crystals.  Its more about its connection to the wielder

This is correct, it is even mentioned in the game that you cant just slap any kyber crystal into a saber and expect it to work, the crystal must have a connection to, or call to the wielder.

[Racona Nova]

Thanks everybody for the information Seems like a bit of reading is necessary now