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Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen
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« on: January 13, 2020, 06:14:05 AM »

Does anybody know how to fix this and/or knows how the guarded switch is held in place?

As you can hopefully see, the button is stuck in the downward position and won't come up again. I think it's a little bit diagonal as well and it's to far down to really get a hold on it. And I noticed that the rim/brim/edge of the guarded switch seems to have came up out of the hilt. And yes it misses a piece, but it's my favourite training saber, that's why it dropped today (again) and now I have this issue....

Yes I can send it back to US, but the shipping costs alone are more than the price of a new saber (thanks to living on the other side of the globe and taxes...), so I'm hoping I can fix this myself.









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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 07:12:23 AM »

You could try to replace it with a new switch. There's almost no other way to fix that.

 If you turn the saber so that the switch faces downwards, does the middle part slide out again? That could indicate a problem with the spring inside the switch. Or doesn't it move at all?
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 07:32:10 AM »

You could try to replace it with a new switch. There's almost no other way to fix that.

 If you turn the saber so that the switch faces downwards, does the middle part slide out again? That could indicate a problem with the spring inside the switch. Or doesn't it move at all?

No, the button isn't moving at all, it's all stuck.
And yes, I'm a bit worried that I have to order a new switch...
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 08:47:02 AM »

It'll have to be replaced and UltraSabers just hot glues the switch to the hilt so use a heat gun or a hair dryer and run it around to heat up and melt the glue. Be careful since that plastic ring tends to melt or shrink under long periods of heat treatments.

I've broken countless guarded switch and I just replace them with latching AVs
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2020, 09:09:50 AM »

Thanks Infinite, that's advice I can work with!
No offence intended Racona Nova, again thank you as well!

I'll give the heatgun a try tomorrow. Now I only hope I can repair the switch otherwise I'll need to order them.  Sad

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2020, 10:02:54 AM »

It's okay Wink Nothing to worry about!
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2020, 11:09:47 AM »

You don't need a heat gun for that switch. Only the AV switches are glued in. The plastic guarded switches are press fit into a tight hole making them even easier to replace. You can pry it out carefully but that will mar the saber around the hole. I prefer to pull them out using a pair of thin/needle nosed pliers to grip the intact edges of the guard ring. Either pulling opposite edges alternately or trying to twist it while pulling usually helps. Then just attach the wires to the  new one and press it in there.

I have done many and I  order many new sabers I get with the guarded switch specifically so I can pull it out and tap the hole to thread in a 12mm AV switch. Like this one in my Monarch:

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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2020, 11:32:30 AM »

Thank you Firehand.
Just so I understand correctly. If I find someone who can tap, or get the tools myself (and learn how to tap). The whole of the guarded switch can be tapped for a 12mm diameter screw/new switch? Do I need to know a threat size as well?

I'm still hoping I can fix the current switch and won't have to order a new one. And it'll probably be the same one, but still this I really like the idea for a future project. Or this one if I decide otherwise.

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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2020, 04:31:05 PM »

Yes it can be tapped to fit 12mm AV switches.  You need to know the thread pitch of the switch you choose to install. To do it you have to attach the wires first then turn the switch in while managing the wires inside. It is not an easy thing and takes a good amount of patience but I like the look and like doing it to mine.
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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 07:56:57 AM »

My first repair attempt came to an early stop. The guard of the guarded switch turned out to have been broken of. The lower part was still nicely stucked inside, so I just pulled it up a bit to get a nice press fit. It's not my definate repair, I'll have to order one or more switches, but hopefully it will do for now.

Made a few pictures along the way:












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« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 11:23:42 AM »

Where are you. If in the US i could send you a switch. I have some i pulled out just to make the aesthetic change i like.
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« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 11:59:27 AM »

Thank you for the offer, but I live on the other side of the ocean, the Netherlands. (small European country, mostly famous because of their capital city Amsterdam  Wink )
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« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 03:17:02 PM »

Oh. Don't know about shipping there. Hope you find one easily.
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