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« on: January 16, 2020, 10:11:09 AM »

So I wanted to slide the whole assembly out of my hilt and the switch is glued-in. This seems to make it tough (impossible?) to empty my hilt.

Question 1: Is there anything I can do to free this mess from my current hilt electronics?
Question 2: If I order a new saber, can I ask them not to glue all of that in, or would I have to buy an empty hilt and piece it together from there?

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2020, 10:31:39 AM »

You have an AV switch? Those are always glued in. You could use a heat gun and carefully (!) heat the glue, unscrew the nut inside and then remove the switch. It's not easy, but possible.
Why they do that...no idea.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2020, 11:32:51 AM »

You have an AV switch? Those are always glued in. You could use a heat gun and carefully (!) heat the glue, unscrew the nut inside and then remove the switch. It's not easy, but possible.
Why they do that...no idea.

I was thinking that, but I have shrink-tube wires in a lot of that and I'm not sure how sensitive they'd be to heat

Thinking I might start with a blow drier on high just to see how the glue reacts to just a little heat. If it fares better than what's around it, I'll probably take the leap.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2020, 11:37:08 AM »

That sounds like a plan.  IF you can, document what you do and post it, there are no doubt many who would be interested in seeing how it goes (like me!)
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2020, 03:28:18 PM »

That sounds like a plan.  IF you can, document what you do and post it, there are no doubt many who would be interested in seeing how it goes (like me!)

Yup, a short video would be great! (Even if it doesn't work, a video would be great---some of our greatest lessons can be learned from what DOESN'T work)

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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2020, 03:41:22 PM »

Why they do that...no idea.

So vibrations don't knock the nut loose, which will happen with a dueling saber after awhile. It was either that or locktite  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2020, 03:43:26 PM »

So vibrations don't knock the nut loose, which will happen with a dueling saber after awhile. It was either that or locktite  Cheesy

That's what I suspected.  :-)  Thanks for confirmation!

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2020, 06:12:54 AM »

Makes sense...and great that you didn't use locktite Cheesy Otherwise it would become even more difficult to remove the switch Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2020, 02:06:59 PM »

So I wanted to slide the whole assembly out of my hilt and the switch is glued-in. This seems to make it tough (impossible?) to empty my hilt.

Question 1: Is there anything I can do to free this mess from my current hilt electronics?
Question 2: If I order a new saber, can I ask them not to glue all of that in, or would I have to buy an empty hilt and piece it together from there?

TIA!
-Marc

I got a Mystery Box Sentinel V5 stunt with an AV, and when I pulled the battery pack out and shined a flashlight inside the hilt, I saw what I would consider a.. copious... quantity of dried hot glue around the underside of the switch.  Just saying that the heat gun option to soften the glue (when the glue was applied .. generously) .. well, it will take just that much more work to get that switch out
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2020, 04:07:41 PM »

So vibrations don't knock the nut loose, which will happen with a dueling saber after awhile. It was either that or locktite  Cheesy

Some blue loctite seems like a better choice.

I've had such great success with that in all kinds of applications.
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2020, 05:44:20 PM »

Some blue loctite seems like a better choice.

I've had such great success with that in all kinds of applications.

Agreed though in a production environment Im thinking US is leaning toward hot glue as a quick way to secure an AV switch in a more or less slip fit hole .  When a saber is returned for repairs Id love to see how THEY remove an AV switch without sweating it out of the hole with heat guns .
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2020, 08:02:35 AM »

Agreed though in a production environment Im thinking US is leaning toward hot glue as a quick way to secure an AV switch in a more or less slip fit hole .  When a saber is returned for repairs Id love to see how THEY remove an AV switch without sweating it out of the hole with heat guns .

Just a hunch, but with all the soldering irons they have sitting around, I'd say they apply pressure to the button in the direction you want to go and heat up the hilt in the area around the button until it pops off. If it is low temp glue it'd pop off long before anything else is damaged.
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2020, 11:52:56 AM »

I just use an X-acto knive to cut into the nearer edge of the glue, usually through the emitter end. Then a screwdriver to pry that open and start a released edge. Then I use long knows pliers or hobby forceps to pull and push and peel the glue off. The switch falls out after that.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2020, 01:25:35 PM »

A few dabs of isopropyl alcohol around the edges of the glob will loosen it to the point that tweezers or a small screwdriver can just pop it off

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2020, 02:22:09 PM »

A few dabs of isopropyl alcohol around the edges of the glob will loosen it to the point that tweezers or a small screwdriver can just pop it off

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Ahh the solvent method!  Excellent idea!
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