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Rash-Leer
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« on: September 15, 2020, 05:31:06 PM »

So I understand that if I get a silver blade with color discs that it's going to be a lot dimmer with the discs than if I had just gotten a blade of that color. And from what I read on the forums the Tri-Cee leds are noticeably brighter than the regular ones.
So my question is, would a Tri silver blade with color disc be as good as a regular led w/out a color disc? Or would it still dimmer? Or even better?
Thanx in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2020, 06:15:45 PM »

AS A GUESS, I would say that it would be brighter, but the colors would be washed out by the brighter light.  Thatís always the balancing act you have to play.  If you are going to go with a Tri-Cree in Adegan Silver (assuming itís an optionó I havenít checked), I would definitely get a set of color filters designed for theatre lighting.  Our go-to provider, Lee Filters, is currently out of stock on their swatch book, so I went to Amazon and found this:

Rosco Cinegel 1.5 Inch X 3.25 Inch Swatchbook
by BarnDoor Lighting Outfitters
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006OGNLNC/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_0BwyFbNMPJB06
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2020, 09:24:01 PM »

I remember reading on the forums that the brightest color is having a Tri-Cree of that actual color LED in your saber, something about the fact that when a light is filtered it will always lose some of its brightness. Don't quote me on the science, that's not anywhere near my pay grade. Cyclops might very well be right. We have quite a few AS Tri-Cree-ers here on the forum that will hopefully shed some light on the issue (ugh, what a pun.)

Edit: to clarify, you're asking that a Tri-Cree AS with blue color discs (or filters) would be brighter than a single LED Guardian Blue, for example?
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2020, 06:13:25 AM »

So I understand that if I get a silver blade with color discs that it's going to be a lot dimmer with the discs than if I had just gotten a blade of that color. And from what I read on the forums the Tri-Cee leds are noticeably brighter than the regular ones.
So my question is, would a Tri silver blade with color disc be as good as a regular led w/out a color disc? Or would it still dimmer? Or even better?
Thanx in advance.

I went to the Lee filters website and found my local dealer.  They gave me the designer and numeric swatch kits for free.  I can confirm that the light plastic strips are amazing with the tri Silver leds.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2020, 06:35:18 AM »

I've done tons of color filtering this year. Single silver, Tri-cree, discs, RGB, day blades etc.

What I've found is that, yes you want Tri-Silver as filtering colors dim the light considerably depending on the color.
I actually do NOT recommend color discs for Red, Purple, deep Blue or Green. The color saturation is weak and if you double up discs to fix the saturation, the brightness is significantly lost.

Orange, Yellow, light green and Icy blue, on the other hand do work well.
In fact, if you want Orange or Yellow, I'd get Tri-Silver with discs over Fire Orange or Sentinel Yellow all day.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2020, 07:29:12 AM »

Agree with Galef 100%.

For some ideas on how versatile the Lee swatchbooks can be, check this thread out:
http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=38175.0

Basically, though, ANY color that approaches the basic colors or red, blue or green will be dimmer because you're filtering out so much of the light.  Blue, for example, can only be "pure" if ALL red and green are removed from it.  But light blue is a mix of blue and green, with even a little red involved sometimes, so you're filtering less out and hence get a brighter color.

Tri-Cree white stands up well to filtering due to more light to begin with.  Yellows and oranges and light colors/mixes look really good.   But if you're looking for pure red, pure blue or pure green you'll always do better with the straight-up LED,  especially filtering down from white in these cases.  Galef has a VA saber, which is a mix of red and blue, and I've seen where he uses filters to turn it blue or red with good results, but in that case you're only filtering one color out of a two-color mix.  With white you're filtering most of the energy to get one color out of the entire mix.  That always dims your end result, no way around it.

Many of us have white LEDs we've played with.   In my experience, the Tri-Cree works FAR better.  The greater brightness is amplified by the filtering process.  Just be aware that any "deep" colors will look better with the LED.  But lighter colors and mixes look great with filters.  So ultimately, what will determine your best route is whatever color you want.   And if you don't know and are experimenting then definitely go with the tri-cree white LED and get a Lee swatchbook.  :-)
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