Darth Tepes
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« on: January 15, 2021, 11:34:31 PM » |
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Like the title says, here be a place to discuss the MCU's "first" tv show. Spoilers will be shared so if you have not watched it yet Do not enter here.
Lets talk about the proverbial elephant in the room...the Sitcom aspect. I think its thrown a lot of people off because either they are on the younger side and have never watched the older sitcoms. These first two episodes definitely drew a lot from Bewitched and the Dick van Dyke show (Wanda was channeling Mary Tyler Moore). Others may not have realized how powerful Wanda is. Either way I hope they give it a chance because so far its great. There are hidden clues supposedly all through the show in sets, dialogue and even the fake commercials, which have the same 2 people in it each time. Time to time the residents of the town act odd with glances or strained words. It gives the sense there is obvious mind control going on. It is shown S.W.O.R.D is the agency dealing with this which is throwing me off since last I saw in the comics S.W.O.R.D dealt with extraterrestrial threats. But perhaps since they believe Wanda's power is from an infinity stone they consider extraterrestrial. One moment of interest is hearing someone come over a radio and say "Wanda, who is doing this to you?" So it seems an outside influence is expected. Going by who Kathryn Hahn is rumored to be (Agatha Harknass...a powerful Witch who in the comics trains Wanda) its a good bet Mephisto or Knightmare may be involved. Which of course will get the attention of Dr. Strange. All in all I'm looking foreword to the rest of the series.
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Taegin Roan
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2021, 02:23:26 AM » |
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While I didn't love the first episode, I thought the second was really good. And although I'm in that "younger" audience, I absolutely have watched Dick Van Dike Show and Bewitched and many of the other sitcoms. I was shocked by the exact replica of the home in DVDS for that first episode. I didn't expect that at all, and I love the fact that they took the theme songs from the shows and tweaked them.
Other than the face value stuff that I didn't love, I am loving the storyline of the series. Very very interesting what is going on. I also love the trope (not the right word, but I can't think of the right one right now) of having black and white, but then a random splash of color that doesn't make sense. It works so good IMO. Also, that "No!" was super interesting. Very interested to see all that this sets up for. I think between this and Loki, we are in for some weird television.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2021, 03:36:13 AM » |
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I enjoyed them both. I was expecting the weirdness because of everything I have read leading up to the show. I’m also aware that almost everything is going to mean something or be a clue/foreshadowing. Also the whole Stark Industries reference was ment to be blatant and get your attention. Who doesn’t recognize that name. So what it now does is make everyone pay more attention to the commercial section.
I’m excited for more to see where this goes.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2021, 04:38:53 AM » |
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So if there is a commercial in each episode, I suspect the objects being promoted will probably have some sort of significance besides just being name drop type things. So is there something from the comics that involves a Watch and a Toaster that I am unaware of?
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2021, 01:12:57 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2021, 05:53:02 PM » |
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Haven't watched yet, so I just decided to drop a comment in the bucket quick before things truly get rolling... I mean their connection does/did have such potential. I mean talk about a power couple! But also clearly a tragic romance. I don't quite get how it's planned to capitalize on this potential. I mean it seems simultaneously vaguely exploitative but also giving fans a closer look, which I'm sure many desire or attempting to explain something that "seemingly came out of nowhere" to some. It could be interesting for sure, but yeah... how to do a sitcom style show or any recurring show out of a rather limited romance does seem to present limited options. Guess we'll see.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2021, 08:52:39 PM » |
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So if there is a commercial in each episode, I suspect the objects being promoted will probably have some sort of significance besides just being name drop type things. So is there something from the comics that involves a Watch and a Toaster that I am unaware of?
With the Toaster notice the red light and beeping sound almost like a bomb. Which leads back to how Wanda and Quicksilver's parents were killed...by a Stark made bomb. The watch was called Strucker which of course was Baron Von Strucker..the Hydra leader who experimented on the Maximoff's. So both of those are kind of Wanda's "origin".
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2021, 08:58:29 PM » |
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With the Toaster notice the red light and beeping sound almost like a bomb. Which leads back to how Wanda and Quicksilver's parents were killed...by a Stark made bomb. The watch was called Strucker which of course was Baron Von Strucker..the Hydra leader who experimented on the Maximoff's. So both of those are kind of Wanda's "origin".
Gotcha. I didn't catch (should've) that it was a Stark bomb that killed Wanda's family. Definitely remembered about Strucker though. It'll be very interesting to see where they go with this specific side of things.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2021, 01:39:03 AM » |
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Yes, I thought the first two episodes were pretty good. They were weird...but good weird. I definitely understand why they released two of them though, because it is not until the second one that the conflict starts to arise and the end when it shifts to color seems to be leading to something more. It leaves you wanting to see the next one.
And there definitely has to be some fiction element to it, because Vision is gone, so my theory is that Wanda may be creating some kind of alternate reality for herself where she and Vision go back in time in order to have a long life together before anything tragic happens.
Anyway, I can't wait to see where the show goes, and I am super excited that the new era of Marvel has begun!!
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2021, 04:00:00 PM » |
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With the Toaster notice the red light and beeping sound almost like a bomb. Which leads back to how Wanda and Quicksilver's parents were killed...by a Stark made bomb. The watch was called Strucker which of course was Baron Von Strucker..the Hydra leader who experimented on the Maximoff's. So both of those are kind of Wanda's "origin".
And in case you didn’t remember the Strucker/Hydra connection, the Hydra logo was on the watch.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2021, 03:12:01 PM » |
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Surprised no one is talking about episode 3 yet. So consider this your spoiler warning for anyone behind. . . . . . . . . . . . . So I just get to the quick and dirty of it. I didn’t put the connection together until just now. Wanda talks about her brother. Peter Evens is has been listed as being cast in a currently unknown role. Peter Evens, in case like me you forgot, was Quicksilver in the Fox X-Men movies. Oh the possibility’s.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2021, 11:41:57 PM » |
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I saw a theory the other day that Mephisto knows how much Wanda wants to see her brother again, and so being the trickster he is, he brings him back... As Evan Peters' version.
Personally, I preferred Aaron Taylor-Johnson's version, I would love seeing EP's version if they did it like that. I also like the theory that EP is playing Mephisto. Definitely some interesting things coming.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2021, 12:57:10 AM » |
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I saw a theory the other day that Mephisto knows how much Wanda wants to see her brother again, and so being the trickster he is, he brings him back... As Evan Peters' version.
Personally, I preferred Aaron Taylor-Johnson's version, I would love seeing EP's version if they did it like that. I also like the theory that EP is playing Mephisto. Definitely some interesting things coming.
He is one of my favorite actors. Whatever he does will be good.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2021, 05:16:05 AM » |
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Alright, lets keep the discussion going? What'd y'all think? I personally loved that opening, it was great to see the chaos that would have ensued after everyone was brought back. It is also interesting to note that WandaVision officially takes place before Far From Home. I don't know exactly when FFH takes place, but WV is approximately 3 weeks after Endgame.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2021, 06:16:36 PM » |
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I loved this episode. They just get better and better. Each one clarifies more and more and I am always so excited for more. I loved how it went back through everything that has happened so far and showed it outside of Westview. And then they brought in Darcy! I love her! I honestly don't know how to describe the episode. It was so good and so much happened in so little time. Can't wait for next week!
PS The ending..."It's Wanda, it's all Wanda." OH MY GOSH!
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