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Lord Vaalic
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2023, 08:13:13 PM »

This.  Also, Daisy Ridley says she's done with SW. So pretty much, a no.



Appears she is coming back for another movie
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2023, 02:14:09 AM »

my reply…two words:

who cares?
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2023, 06:16:43 PM »

One of my cousins and I had a brainstorm/discussion way back when TFA came out that an interesting twist would be Kylo being redeemed and Rey falling to the Dark Side (indeed, I was thinking that might be the case in TLJ as I was watching it.  Yea gods was I wrong...).  Instead we got...well, we KNOW all about the Sequel Trilogy... Tongue  Which leads me to:

my reply…two words:

who cares?
Unfortunately, this seems to be the general consensus (can't say that I blame anyone with this opinion).
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2023, 04:57:31 PM »

I care...you never know it might be okay.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2023, 10:52:52 PM »

I've actually known a few people who say they prefer the sequel trilogy to the older films, so I'd wager that a number of people care. I'd definitely watch a new movie with Rey. The Rise of Skywalker really left me with a sense that, while it was a conclusion to that story, there is still much more to be told. I'd like to see Finn come back and get some Jedi training too. I think John Boyega's feelings on the matter have softened a bit over the past couple years, so who knows what's possible?

One thing I'd like them to do moving forward is stop trying to rely on legacy characters. I don't think shoehorning in older characters to try to do fan service to longtime fans is doing them any favors, and I say that as a longtime fan. Stick with the established younger cast of characters, but give us some fresh supporting characters and villains. Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2023, 06:33:55 PM »

I've actually known a few people who say they prefer the sequel trilogy to the older films, so I'd wager that a number of people care. I'd definitely watch a new movie with Rey. The Rise of Skywalker really left me with a sense that, while it was a conclusion to that story, there is still much more to be told. I'd like to see Finn come back and get some Jedi training too. I think John Boyega's feelings on the matter have softened a bit over the past couple years, so who knows what's possible?

[size=15pt]One thing I'd like them to do moving forward is stop trying to rely on legacy characters[/size]. I don't think shoehorning in older characters to try to do fan service to longtime fans is doing them any favors, and I say that as a longtime fan. Stick with the established younger cast of characters, but give us some fresh supporting characters and villains. Just my thoughts.
THIS^^

One of the aspects of SWTOR I loved so much is that it expanded upon the greater galaxy without having to directly tie it into the OT.  Instead, it expands the mythos honoring Lucas' original story while presenting some excellent narratives, characters, and worldbuilding.

I care...you never know it might be okay.

/sigh  TJ has a point: if it is done RIGHT, I believe that more SW movies with Rey as the prime protagonist would be enjoyable (I like SFD's ideas concerning Finn, who was criminally misused throughout the ST).  Case in point: several episodes of "The Mandalorian" are excellent stories that stand strong by themselves without needing to "remind" the viewer "LUK, UR WACHING STAR WARS"

Time will tell^^
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2023, 12:13:34 AM »

I doubt Rey will become a Sith, but I'd like to see her run into the same issues Luke found rebuilidng an Order, maybe dive into the struggles of working out an 'orthodoxy' keeping to the Light against the necessity of 'dark' actions etc. possibly facing her own splinter group of students who disagree with her, and working out the Jedi's place in a galaxy that has forgotten them, perhaps with a Republic that views her with suspicion s a Cult leader. Some dynamics like that could make for an interesting challenge, perhaps not even an overly action oriented movie but still engaging.

As always there is potential, but we've been burned before....
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2023, 11:47:58 PM »

I would definitely like to see her endeavor to avoid the mistakes of both the Old Jedi Order, and Luke. I think her aiming for something closer to the High Republic order, where the order is still squarely in the light, but it's members are free to play around and find their own path and connection to the Force, rather than all being cookie cutter like the prequels era Jedi were.
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2023, 03:21:02 PM »

There's a lot of indications of the Jedi Order being broken by the time of the movies. They didn't sense the Sith, which was a bad thing. They didn't take Qui-Gon's warnings seriously. They were too embroiled in politics of the Republic. There were a lot of mistakes made, those are just some of the worst ones. In a lot of ways, Qui-Gon represented the Jedi more as they were supposed to be, but the order had changed so much that he was considered a rogue. He tried to impart some of those teachings on Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan clearly preferred the teachings of the broken Jedi Order. Being a product of two Jedi from that failed version of the Order, Luke never really stood a chance to do a better job. He even said it was time for the Jedi to die. He didn't mean there should never be Jedi again, but he felt that a better Order with better teachings should come out of the ashes.

Rey, on the other hand, had hardly any training. Unlike Luke, she read the sacred texts of the Jedi, meaning she had insights into the original order. I don't think Rey will become a Sith, she's too pure for that, nor will she be a Jedi in the sense of the movie era Order. I see her starting a new order based on better teachings as well as some of her own insights. In a way, she's starting fresh, as the original Force sensitive beings who founded the Jedi Order would have done.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2023, 12:48:03 PM »

my reply…two words:

who cares?
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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2023, 12:50:40 PM »

I care...you never know it might be okay.
It might. I don't have a problem with the actress. I have problems with the writers and producers, and directors. A trilogy with no coherent stories, no guide line, no vision is more a trollogy than a real cohesive story. So yeah, they can keep the character and the actress. If they get rid of Ruin. But the damage is done. those films ruined the follow up. So I don't really care about what they can do in that era anymore.
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2023, 02:55:07 PM »

A trilogy with no coherent stories, no guide line, no vision is more a trollogy than a real cohesive story.

It's funny because the original trilogy didn't have a guide line or an overall vision at first either. Though, George Lucas had vision. He did have plans for a movie if the first one was a flop, but it was nothing too concrete. However, once the first movie was a smash hit, he came up with a more cohesive outline for the second and third films. But, that's the difference between George Lucas and the people who bought the franchise. He knew how to capitalize on the success of the first film. And you can't even say it was because they changed writers and directors for The Last Jedi, because different people wrote the screenplays and three different directors were assigned to the OT movies. But, they didn't have anyone like George overseeing the whole project, they let the individuals making the sequel trilogy do their own thing. That's not how you do a series that's as interwoven as the Star Wars trilogies. I like the films, but I can see the shortcomings due to how they were made.
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2023, 01:59:39 AM »

It might. I don't have a problem with the actress. I have problems with the writers and producers, and directors. A trilogy with no coherent stories, no guide line, no vision is more a trollogy than a real cohesive story. So yeah, they can keep the character and the actress. If they get rid of Ruin. But the damage is done. those films ruined the follow up. So I don't really care about what they can do in that era anymore.
Points back at ya…My thoughts exactly!!
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