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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2024, 10:21:03 PM »

I would actually enjoy a good Revan like during mandalorian wars. Leave that damn period alone. I can't stand what they've done as sequels. I'm not happy with the last cameo in Acolyte. ENOUGH. Go to other period. Do something else. I'd kill for something similar to SWTOR. Lots of sith. Lots of jedis. Lots of shenanigans. Too many siths to achieve anything because they are too busy betraying each other...

Disney plays it safe.... The Old Republic isn't safe.  The EU gave his Luke Skywalker's great grandson who was a Death Stick addicted Pirate who walked the line between Dark and Light....  Disney would never.
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« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2024, 11:57:22 PM »

I want a live action rebel pilot series...
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« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2024, 02:20:31 PM »

I would actually enjoy a good Revan like during mandalorian wars. Leave that damn period alone. I can't stand what they've done as sequels. I'm not happy with the last cameo in Acolyte. ENOUGH. Go to other period. Do something else. I'd kill for something similar to SWTOR. Lots of sith. Lots of jedis. Lots of shenanigans. Too many siths to achieve anything because they are too busy betraying each other...
They can't do proper Old Republic stories because of their own idiotic narrative. The Sith ONLY ever number two. So where are you going to come up with an entire army? {LAME!}

Disney plays it safe.... The Old Republic isn't safe.  The EU gave his Luke Skywalker's great grandson who was a Death Stick addicted Pirate who walked the line between Dark and Light....  Disney would never.
Plus Darth Talon. Grin

But yes, Disney doesn't have the balls to actually attempt an original idea. They have to go off of ratings, and socially hyped BS, and progressive ideologies. They can't possibly just produce a good story front to back without some ulterior agenda.

I want a live action rebel pilot series...
If I'm not mistaken, Disney is set to bastardize Rogue Squadron at some point. So you can look forward to that.
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« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2024, 06:46:57 PM »

I've been letting it go in the interest of actually having some discussion around here, for the first time in years, but I'm going to have to put the mod hat on right now. The talk in these show threads has skirted too close to politics for my liking. Please watch phrases like "progressive ideologies" "too much agenda" etc. Also watch the skirting close to foul language. (I'm talking to everyone, not just one person.)
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« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2024, 07:07:10 AM »

They can't do proper Old Republic stories because of their own idiotic narrative. The Sith ONLY ever number two. So where are you going to come up with an entire army? {LAME!}
Plus Darth Talon. Grin

But yes, Disney doesn't have the balls to actually attempt an original idea. They have to go off of ratings, and socially hyped BS, and progressive ideologies. They can't possibly just produce a good story front to back without some ulterior agenda.
If I'm not mistaken, Disney is set to bastardize Rogue Squadron at some point. So you can look forward to that.
Why would there always be only two? It made sense that at some point someone said enough infighting and implemented that rule. But it's way too dangerous to have always been in effect.
I'll skip the rest.
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« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2024, 10:55:05 AM »

Why would there always be only two? It made sense that at some point someone said enough infighting and implemented that rule. But it's way too dangerous to have always been in effect.
I'll skip the rest.

Please don't skip the rest!

 I've always thought the same kind of thing. All your eggs in one basket. Just having two doesn't make them any safer from outside threats. Only two doesn't makes the odds better for more than two to survive.  I've  got twelve and six get cracked? Six remaining is better than two at the start.
  I would love to hear more of your thoughts or opinions on this idea in more details!

Also I would like some eggs... and ham, on an english muffin, drowning in hollandaise sauce.
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« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2024, 04:22:04 PM »

Please don't skip the rest!

 I've always thought the same kind of thing. All your eggs in one basket. Just having two doesn't make them any safer from outside threats. Only two doesn't makes the odds better for more than two to survive.  I've  got twelve and six get cracked? Six remaining is better than two at the start.
  I would love to hear more of your thoughts or opinions on this idea in more details!

Also I would like some eggs... and ham, on an english muffin, drowning in hollandaise sauce.
Oh I will skip the borderline politics.
But yeah, IIRC the rule of two was made to help flying under jedi's radar. Harness more power. Stop the sabotaging and conspiracies between siths against other siths instead of kicking jedi's ass. And, by forcing the apprentice to kill the master to claim the title, it should have made every generation stronger than the previous one. STILL. I WANT MORE SITHS
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« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2024, 04:29:54 PM »

Why would there always be only two? It made sense that at some point someone said enough infighting and implemented that rule. But it's way too dangerous to have always been in effect.
I'll skip the rest.

It was.  It's in the old EU.  The last war between the jedi and sith the Sith were losing not only because of the Jedi but their own infighting.  Bane was the surviving Lord and implemented the rule of two.
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« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2024, 03:33:44 AM »

The last war between the jedi and sith the Sith were losing not only because of the Jedi but their own infighting.  Bane was the surviving Lord and implemented the rule of two.

And Darth Zannah ended his RAIN as the ruler of the Sith.

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« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2024, 02:20:09 PM »

I've been letting it go in the interest of actually having some discussion around here, for the first time in years, but I'm going to have to put the mod hat on right now. The talk in these show threads has skirted too close to politics for my liking. Please watch phrases like "progressive ideologies" "too much agenda" etc. Also watch the skirting close to foul language. (I'm talking to everyone, not just one person.)
News flash: ideologies and agendas extend far beyond the realms of religious and political theatres.

Why would there always be only two? It made sense that at some point someone said enough infighting and implemented that rule. But it's way too dangerous to have always been in effect.
To paraphrase what DSW has continually shown with their incompetent handling of the franchise: if a preestablished character's limited knowledge of galactic history said it, then it HAS TO BE. I.e. Yoda: "Always two there are. No more, no less." So George's character said it and that makes it an all encompassing world build point.

In contrast, I devised a way to circumvent the groan-fest mechanic of midichlorians being the connection to the Force. I know George wanted a way to have a definite metric with which to measure Force strength, and he was kind of onto something. But instead of the MC count defining Force strength, why not flip it: MCs thrive in Force sensative beings. So the stronger you are in the Force, the higher your count is. It achieves the same goal, but without the painfully dogmatic McGuffin.

I've always thought the same kind of thing. All your eggs in one basket. Just having two doesn't make them any safer from outside threats. Only two doesn't makes the odds better for more than two to survive.  I've  got twelve and six get cracked? Six remaining is better than two at the start.
I would love to hear more of your thoughts or opinions on this idea in more details!
Pro-con. Bane instituted Revan's logic, and refined it. Revan believed that there should always be 1 master to 1 apprentice to ensure that a strong master could not be usurped by multiple weak apprentices....like what happened to Treya Cry. Only a strong apprentice would have what it took to take the place of the master, and thus strengthen the Sith as a whole. Bane went further by limiting the Sith to number ONLY 2 so that they would exist only in rumor, since the Jedi believed that the order was completely exterminated on Ruusan. He believed that the power of the dark side was like a bottle wine; there's only so much to go around, and the only way to make it go further was to dilute it. With only 2, the dark side power would be concetrated and more potent. I also heard it theorized, and have explained before, (some believing that Bane understood this and counted on it, others that it was merely a side effect that aided his cause) that because there were tens of thousands of Jedi and only two Sith for over a millennium, that the Force pushed back and allowed the Jedi to be destroyed in order to "bring balance to the Force." Something about Anakin fulfilling some prophecy and a green dude conjecturing that it was misinterpretted. Undecided
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« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2024, 05:01:39 PM »

It was.  It's in the old EU.  The last war between the jedi and sith the Sith were losing not only because of the Jedi but their own infighting.  Bane was the surviving Lord and implemented the rule of two.
That's what I had in mind. I remember reading Bane's comics. Thanks for confirming and providing more info!
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« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2024, 04:52:27 PM »

In contrast, I devised a way to circumvent the groan-fest mechanic of midichlorians being the connection to the Force. I know George wanted a way to have a definite metric with which to measure Force strength, and he was kind of onto something. But instead of the MC count defining Force strength, why not flip it: MCs thrive in Force sensative beings. So the stronger you are in the Force, the higher your count is. It achieves the same goal, but without the painfully dogmatic McGuffin.

This is kind of how I've always understood it. It's not that the Midichlorians are literally the Force, but that they are merely one, scientifically measurable aspect. They alone don't dictate the Force (seeing as how it's an energy field that binds the galaxy together, and that it's in the rocks, the trees, etc.). It can't be. But it is also one way we can better understand the Force.
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« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2024, 10:02:12 PM »

News flash: ideologies and agendas extend far beyond the realms of religious and political theatres.


Okay but I'm fully capable of using context to know people are referring to political and social issues when they say this stuff. I'm just reminding everyone to be careful.
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« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2024, 05:37:14 PM »

Okay but I'm fully capable of using context to know people are referring to political and social issues when they say this stuff. I'm just reminding everyone to be careful.
"No Religion. No Politics." Am I missing anything from the rules? Last I checked, social doesn't fall under either of the Nos.
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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2024, 07:56:43 PM »

"No Religion. No Politics." Am I missing anything from the rules? Last I checked, social doesn't fall under either of the Nos.

When the social issues are politicized, it's politics.
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