Good single handed combatant vs really good Staff combatant

[ZequarX]

Teach me your ways, Ruin!

I agree on everything you are saying and your words are wise beyond your years, my friend!

You'll have to learn to be patient and wait for openings.

This is a whole new training regime of its own, lol. MAN! I am excited now! Give me a couple days to get the feel of my saber and hopefully all else falls into place!

[Darth Ruin]

-shrugs-  Hahaha, after sparring for years (God, I hated Martial Arts for my first few years, it was an Asian-Parent-thinks-you-need-to-get-off-your-ass forced activity thing) you sort of learn what to do and what not to do.  I've always been a skinny chap who disliked fighting to overtly, it's all brute strength and left too many bruises on my body. 

Defense, mate.  Defense.  If you're looking for reference material, look around for "Wushu" - a form of Chinese Martial arts that focuses a lot on flourishes (literal translation means martial dance).  If you watch their broadsword users - though the speed makes it difficult - their blades never leave their body other than for attacks - I used to learn this weapon and form, and the blunt edge of my blade would literally touch my back, arms and shoulders when I did flourishes.  The theory behind it is that the further your weapon is from your body, the more kinetic force it can build during a guard.

It's a very tight defense.  Naturally with a saber you don't want to touch your own body (LOL sizzling flesh ahhhh...) but you want to know your where your body starts and finishes, if you know what I mean.  The tighter your defense, the less room your opponent has.  You could probably hold out the entire fight in one spot if your opponent doesn't move his feet.

Soresu is right - you need to be the calm eye of the storm.  Everything can be retardedly chaotic around you, but if you've got your defense to boot, you don't be touched.

Much loves.

[ZequarX]

Stamina and longevity. I would actually find comfort in looking at my opponent gasping for breath after he wears himself out lol!

Soresu is right - you need to be the calm eye of the storm

This is something I should live by outside of dueling. Its simple yet true. Plus, I don't feel like getting K.O'd by my own saber lol! The thing about me is that I would make a ruthless sith, but being bad is too easy. That's why I've always loved the way of the Jedi, and the patience and calmness that goes along with it.

[ZequarX]

Well, I haven't got to duel my brother's friend yet, but I did mess around and duel my brother. He ended up getting the exact same lightsaber as me lol. Good ole grab bags I guess!

We sparred for about 30 min, but were limited b/c I accidentally got shipped the mid grade blade and my bro had the UltraEdge Heavy... Once I'm able to get my blade situation fixed, the dual's will be more epic!

[Darth Nekesus]

you should post a video of some of your duels

[ZequarX]

you should post a video of some of your duels

I will definitely do that! Once my UHEG blade comes in, which should be next Thursday, my brother and I will start posting vids. He said he wanted to make it a weekly thing, so hopefully that sticks and we can dual and post video's every week

[Master Rel]

Keep in mind that the main difference between a single and staff is rhythm.

Rhythm is required for the advantage of a staff to take affect.

A staff wielder is going to want to spin or at least use both ends and this takes time, coordination, and rhythm...just like fighting a boxer that bounces...time the weak arc of the rhythm and strike.

Being focused and determined will win the day.

A staff fighter will come to the duel with desire to use both ends...let them...pull away and let them have confidence to spin and build rhythm...then with direct vision strike...focus on a point a strike.

You can not afford to get into a parry strike exchange or you will most likely lose as the staff has range, two strike points, and a point of rigid contact (less likely to stun a hand to let go).

Let them develop a false sense of strength, let the confidence build, and then smack...move through them, because of you miss you will have closed the gap and the potential to use the range and either end with be reduced.

Now the same vs a spear is completely different...vs a naginata style I suspect most single wielders would be ruined 

[T0xicBr0wni3]

As a staff user mostly I'd have to say personally my greatest weaknesses are

A. Stabs at chest hight

B. Myself getting tired out.

Stabs, especially at that height almost always manage to throw me off, since we are dueling with lightsabers I can't use the middle of my saber to block that like one normally would. I have to not only twist my body, but also bring one of my blades all the way around to get there in time. Now, depending on the saber these hilts can be almost 2ft long, that's a pretty big rotation to pull in the split second you have to react to a stab. So that's a pretty good bet.   That being said, stabs usually aren't recommended by me because without the proper precaution, you really can hurt someone with that. Specially if your aiming where I said is the weak point you can hit right under the sternum where the chest bone is the weakest, and that's not good. That really can be lethal if the timing is wrong. So unless you've got control, stabs may not be the best thing to do.

Then comes the classic getting tired. Like a lot of the people have said before me, staff fighting is incredibly kinetic. You're using every part of your body to swing your saber to give you that power. If someone is just sitting there, blocking away (soresu is a staff users greatest enemy IMO) I'm eventually gonna get tired because they are really exerting them self little, while I'm just going at it. Even with the slightest bit of fatigue a person is going to slow down, they are going to hit lighter, and their blocks won't be as solid. Tire a staff user out by putting up a good defense, and eventually they won't be able to withstand your offense. 

[ZequarX]

As a staff user mostly I'd have to say personally my greatest weaknesses are

A. Stabs at chest hight

B. Myself getting tired out.

Stabs, especially at that height almost always manage to throw me off, since we are dueling with lightsabers I can't use the middle of my saber to block that like one normally would. I have to not only twist my body, but also bring one of my blades all the way around to get there in time. Now, depending on the saber these hilts can be almost 2ft long, that's a pretty big rotation to pull in the split second you have to react to a stab. So that's a pretty good bet.   That being said, stabs usually aren't recommended by me because without the proper precaution, you really can hurt someone with that. Specially if your aiming where I said is the weak point you can hit right under the sternum where the chest bone is the weakest, and that's not good. That really can be lethal if the timing is wrong. So unless you've got control, stabs may not be the best thing to do.

Then comes the classic getting tired. Like a lot of the people have said before me, staff fighting is incredibly kinetic. You're using every part of your body to swing your saber to give you that power. If someone is just sitting there, blocking away (soresu is a staff users greatest enemy IMO) I'm eventually gonna get tired because they are really exerting them self little, while I'm just going at it. Even with the slightest bit of fatigue a person is going to slow down, they are going to hit lighter, and their blocks won't be as solid. Tire a staff user out by putting up a good defense, and eventually they won't be able to withstand your offense.

I see what you mean, Toxic. Its funny that something as simple as a stab can throw off the scary offense that a saber staff brings to the table. I know our form creations have slowed down, but I can't wait to see the sequences involved in Soresu so I can better train myself not only for a staff wielder, but any one good with a blade. Soresu also ties in with your opponent tiring out first and outlasting the competition, that way when they make a mistake you can effectively use it against them

[Master Lucien Kane]

Each of my form videos will have a staff variant and a Jar Kai variant, and I guess a light spear variant.

[ZequarX]

Each of my form videos will have a staff variant and a Jar Kai variant, and I guess a light spear variant.

That's a good idea, LK. You could become rich on making Jedi/Sith Lightsaber training video's and sell them to the whole World!

As long as you let me help you with Ataru 

[Master Lucien Kane]

That's a good idea, LK. You could become rich on making Jedi/Sith Lightsaber training video's and sell them to the whole World!

As long as you let me help you with Ataru 

Lol I do this because I love it.... That being said... Donations are welcome! 

[ZequarX]

Lol I do this because I love it.... That being said... Donations are welcome! 

Definitely man. I'm just saying, getting paid to do what you love... There is no greater feeling lol. Who wouldn't want to go to work every day with their lightsaber and teach hundreds of people different forms, and then get other's involved like Nero who is a master of Makashi to teach that, so on and so forth. It would be glorious!  $$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$

[Master Lucien Kane]

Don't get me wrong money would be awesome, that being said this is Uncle Georgie's galaxy he let's us play in. The fact that he lets the whole lightsaber thing go on is amazing and appreciated to and by me. I just don't want to push that too much lol.

[ZequarX]

I totally agree with ya. Thanks Uncle George!

I still have yet to duel this guy with the saberstaff. Apparently he is a really busy guy... My brother said that his friend had left the staff back in his hometown and that he got back this past weekend with all his sabers...so hopefully soon! I've been practicing, Muwhahahaha!