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Author Topic: Suggestion Box/Wishlist: what do we want from Ultrasabers?  (Read 1488836 times)
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« Reply #7905 on: October 21, 2019, 01:49:18 PM »

Why not something inspired by instead of a 1:1?
Not sure what you mean by this.

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Maybe a hilt based on a Rapier or Foil.
Again, no.

I feel that a weapon should reflect the fighting style in which it is implemented. In what way would a rapier style saber offer an advantage over a conventional saber?

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« Reply #7906 on: October 21, 2019, 01:55:49 PM »

Not sure what you mean by this.
Again, no.

I feel that a weapon should reflect the fighting style in which it is implemented. In what way would a rapier style saber offer an advantage over a conventional saber?



1) I'm saying an original design inspired by that saber

2) It's not always about functionality. What advantage does The Catalyst have over the Brood Guard? No real advantages either way  just very different designs based on different real-life weapons. I mean hell, we've got sabers based on the thundercats, why not a foil/rapier? In fact I'll take the challenge! Next saber doodle will be a design inspired by a rapier with a functional advantage or tactic unique to it!
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« Reply #7907 on: October 21, 2019, 10:18:04 PM »

Someone mentioned the Avenger earlier, I’m not familiar with that saber.  Is it a new saber that hasn’t been announced on YouTube yet?
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« Reply #7908 on: October 21, 2019, 10:37:39 PM »

Someone mentioned the Avenger earlier, I’m not familiar with that saber.  Is it a new saber that hasn’t been announced on YouTube yet?

Hi BlindJedi,

That was me mentioning the "Avenger" name. I made a 3D model of Obi-Wan Kenobi's Episode 1 style saber in Blender 3D and named it "Dark Avenger" as I made the hilt black and gold. It is basically my version of what Ultrasaber's Guardian would look like in black with gold hand grip and emitter inserts.

Sorry for any confusion.
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« Reply #7909 on: October 21, 2019, 10:48:38 PM »

Not sure if it'd be possible for dueling here or not but a first collapsable saber design, really digging the new dark lightsaber for some reason now Tongue
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« Reply #7910 on: October 21, 2019, 11:59:36 PM »

Why not something inspired by instead of a 1:1? Maybe a hilt based on a Rapier or Foil.

"Inspired by" was implied by my wording

1. Make a chassis an option for stunt sabers to protect the battery case. 
2. Make the grenade grip a default on UltraSaber designed sabers.
3. Make the Tri-Cree a default LED, yes, it'll cost more but it's worth it and one can save $5.00 to $20.00 rather easily

Please no for 2 and 3. Personally I think grenade grips are super uncomfortable and are rough on the hand, and Only a default tri-cree if FoC can still be selected. Otherwise, why not just keep it as an upgrade option (for both). That way anyone who wants it can get it, but people who don't aren't stuck with it by default.
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« Reply #7911 on: October 22, 2019, 01:40:10 PM »

Hi all, how about a Dark Avenger LE or a Dark Standard Battle Issue LE?




I think they kinda work.

Oh, they work, alright!


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« Reply #7912 on: October 22, 2019, 03:25:47 PM »

1) I'm saying an original design inspired by that saber
Oh, you mean just throw out US original designs instead of the rash of nigh-replicas they seem to have been stuck on for the last 2 years?

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2) It's not always about functionality. What advantage does The Catalyst have over the Brood Guard? No real advantages either way  just very different designs based on different real-life weapons. I mean hell, we've got sabers based on the thundercats, why not a foil/rapier? In fact I'll take the challenge! Next saber doodle will be a design inspired by a rapier with a functional advantage or tactic unique to it!
I assume you're speaking as a blade enthusiast that just wants to see it done regardless of practicality? Artistic reasons I have no quarrel with. I'd have a wall of goofy saber variants if I could afford it.

The vast majority of sabers on the market are all based on the standard lightsaber design; pommel, body, emitter, blade. Easy. The Cat is simply one of many along this design, and fit in the tradition of variation of styles among the Jedi. The BG is a guard shoto, and employs different techniques all together. Using shorter blades would necessitate drawing the enemy in closer in order to strike. The different style grip would offer variations in weapon maneuverability and block effectiveness. In a similar fashion to the curved hilt, some maneuvers will become easier and others more difficult compared to standard sabers.

The rapier, although it had a double edge, was designed around keeping your enemy at a distance and striking quickly, stabbing them with the tip. Therefore, the weapon was given a long narrow blade. You're never going to decapitate or dismember somebody with one. Likewise, one would be foolish to try to use a broadsword to fence with. It could be done, but it would require a lot of strength and still be slower against the lighter and swifter rapier. A lightsaber already has a massless blade (@ Tepes, mass of plasma not withstanding Wink Tongue) with a 360° "edge, that can cut through almost anything with minimal effort, as well as stabbing. Beyond personal preferences of blade length and hilt size & weight, the standard saber design can be applied to just about any sword technique in the world.

Someone mentioned the Avenger earlier, I’m not familiar with that saber.  Is it a new saber that hasn’t been announced on YouTube yet?
The Avenger is "someone else's" name for the Guardian design.
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« Reply #7913 on: October 22, 2019, 05:05:47 PM »


The vast majority of sabers on the market are all based on the standard lightsaber design; pommel, body, emitter, blade. Easy. The Cat is simply one of many along this design, and fit in the tradition of variation of styles among the Jedi. The BG is a guard shoto, and employs different techniques all together. Using shorter blades would necessitate drawing the enemy in closer in order to strike. The different style grip would offer variations in weapon maneuverability and block effectiveness. In a similar fashion to the curved hilt, some maneuvers will become easier and others more difficult compared to standard sabers.

The rapier, although it had a double edge, was designed around keeping your enemy at a distance and striking quickly, stabbing them with the tip. Therefore, the weapon was given a long narrow blade. You're never going to decapitate or dismember somebody with one. Likewise, one would be foolish to try to use a broadsword to fence with. It could be done, but it would require a lot of strength and still be slower against the lighter and swifter rapier. A lightsaber already has a massless blade (@ Tepes, mass of plasma not withstanding Wink Tongue) with a 360° "edge, that can cut through almost anything with minimal effort, as well as stabbing. Beyond personal preferences of blade length and hilt size & weight, the standard saber design can be applied to just about any sword technique in the world.
The Avenger is "someone else's" name for the Guardian design.

Where true from a martial arts perspective, I raise you this; the lightfoil. A lesser known artifact in the EU but an existing one nonetheless! A small lightweight single-handed hilt designed for dueling and used almost exclusively in form II. I'd love to see US's take on a lightfoil. Already posted some doodles over in that thread  Wink

Edit: here's the source! https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lightfoil/Legends
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« Reply #7914 on: October 22, 2019, 06:17:34 PM »

Where true from a martial arts perspective, I raise you this; the lightfoil. A lesser known artifact in the EU but an existing one nonetheless! A small lightweight single-handed hilt designed for dueling and used almost exclusively in form II. I'd love to see US's take on a lightfoil. Already posted some doodles over in that thread  Wink

Edit: here's the source! https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lightfoil/Legends
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« Reply #7915 on: October 22, 2019, 06:53:26 PM »

Touche

I see what you did there.
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« Reply #7916 on: October 22, 2019, 07:00:11 PM »

I see what you did there.
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« Reply #7917 on: October 22, 2019, 07:59:48 PM »



But... I'm not a girl!
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« Reply #7918 on: October 22, 2019, 08:09:39 PM »

That's what makes it FUNNY
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« Reply #7919 on: October 22, 2019, 08:11:41 PM »

That's what makes it FUNNY

You sound very much like Br'er Rabbit talking to Br'er Bear and Br'er Fox about his Laughing Place.
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