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Kham-Ryn Kurios
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« Reply #90 on: January 24, 2012, 03:26:13 PM »

Back onto the original post.... I fight with instinct and it just ends up resembling Ataru. Which also answers the second question. And the third question.... Jedi, definitely. Although that feels like getting off topic for some reason Wink

-Do anyone of you actually practice those forms? Or do you fight just with instinct and to look cool in it?

Since there isn't an actual form, I just try to embody the idea of Vapaad.

I don't have experience so I just do what my body tells me to. My gut is usually right so I listen.

Niman though seems like an appropriate route for me though since, I do bits for everywhere.
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« Reply #91 on: January 24, 2012, 07:03:12 PM »

Since all there is on the forms is vague descriptions, my dream is to at least kick start the development of the seven forms as a full martial arts style.

If we could get it accepted by Lucas, I say we should submit it via fanfilm. Then all the better, but then we would finally have better classifications of each form, that would be used for sparring, and teaching.
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« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2012, 01:14:30 AM »

-Do anyone of you actually practice those forms? Or do you fight just with instinct and to look cool in it?

Since there isn't an actual form, I just try to embody the idea of Vapaad.

I don't have experience so I just do what my body tells me to. My gut is usually right so I listen.

Niman though seems like an appropriate route for me though since, I do bits for everywhere.

It's interesting to see the different ways people "fall into" forms.  For instance, Kham doesn't have experience but on instinct falls into Vaapad, whereas I fall into Makashi because of my experience in fencing.  It's like his form is decided by his personality, whereas mine is decided by my training.  Just something I thought was neat.

It probably comes down to the two ways you can look at the forms - technique and philosophy.  Technique wise, Makashi is characterized by small cuts and thrusts, and blade manipulation.  Philosophy wise, it is more about clever manipulation of distance and position, a mix of offense and defense.  Likewise, Vaapad can be split up - its philosophy is all about utilizing dark emotions as fuel, while its technique is using fast and strong attacks in a lethal offense.

What I'm trying to say is, it's almost like I was drawn to Makashi more for the technique, while Kham leans towards Vaapad for the philosophy.  I could be wrong, but that's just the vibe I got.
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« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2012, 01:31:56 AM »

It's interesting to see the different ways people "fall into" forms.  For instance, Kham doesn't have experience but on instinct falls into Vaapad, whereas I fall into Makashi because of my experience in fencing.  It's like his form is decided by his personality, whereas mine is decided by my training.  Just something I thought was neat.

It probably comes down to the two ways you can look at the forms - technique and philosophy.  Technique wise, Makashi is characterized by small cuts and thrusts, and blade manipulation.  Philosophy wise, it is more about clever manipulation of distance and position, a mix of offense and defense.  Likewise, Vaapad can be split up - its philosophy is all about utilizing dark emotions as fuel, while its technique is using fast and strong attacks in a lethal offense.

What I'm trying to say is, it's almost like I was drawn to Makashi more for the technique, while Kham leans towards Vaapad for the philosophy.  I could be wrong, but that's just the vibe I got.

That is exactly right on.

Since i have no experience, I really like to look at the "Form Names".

Mace Windu developed a lightsaber style based upon the vaapad. The style used quick and deadly strikes to overcome the enemy, much like how the vaapad would use its tentacles on prey.

The tentacles of a live vaapad were almost impossible to count as they moved so quickly that they were nothing but a blur to the naked eye and they were very efficient at destroying their prey.

These to excerpts from Wookiepedia on the "Vaapad" animal, from which the form was derived.

That is how I developed my dual wielding style.

Since I use shorter blades and I am short as well, I needed to move faster to compensate for my loss of reach.

I might be wrong but I remember that in Wing Chun, instead of hitting hard, you hit fast.

So you blast as many punches as you can into their diaphragm to compress it so they can't catch their breath and strike back.

Without experience I just have to analogize everything and create a way that works for me.

 

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« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2012, 06:45:21 AM »

It's interesting to see the different ways people "fall into" forms.  For instance, Kham doesn't have experience but on instinct falls into Vaapad, whereas I fall into Makashi because of my experience in fencing.  It's like his form is decided by his personality, whereas mine is decided by my training.  Just something I thought was neat.

It probably comes down to the two ways you can look at the forms - technique and philosophy.  Technique wise, Makashi is characterized by small cuts and thrusts, and blade manipulation.  Philosophy wise, it is more about clever manipulation of distance and position, a mix of offense and defense.  Likewise, Vaapad can be split up - its philosophy is all about utilizing dark emotions as fuel, while its technique is using fast and strong attacks in a lethal offense.

What I'm trying to say is, it's almost like I was drawn to Makashi more for the technique, while Kham leans towards Vaapad for the philosophy.  I could be wrong, but that's just the vibe I got.

I agree with you here, my form was a mix of both my training and my personality. My theory is that our fighting can show our personalities, and our personalities can influence what fighting styles we use. I'm drawn to forms that use a mix of speed brutality and strength. However I am by nature a defensive fighter. So I'm almost at odds with myself in a fight, on one hand I have a lot of aggressive feelings and anger. Yet I believe in only fighting for self defense. So when I do fight I'm very brutal, but to get me into a fight is nearly impossible.

That reflects in my dueling, if there's a chance of hurting someone I hold back and mainly defend. If there's protective gear I turn into a completely different duelist
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« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2012, 04:31:50 PM »

That is exactly right on.

Since i have no experience, I really like to look at the "Form Names".

Mace Windu developed a lightsaber style based upon the vaapad. The style used quick and deadly strikes to overcome the enemy, much like how the vaapad would use its tentacles on prey.

The tentacles of a live vaapad were almost impossible to count as they moved so quickly that they were nothing but a blur to the naked eye and they were very efficient at destroying their prey.

These to excerpts from Wookiepedia on the "Vaapad" animal, from which the form was derived.

That is how I developed my dual wielding style.

Since I use shorter blades and I am short as well, I needed to move faster to compensate for my loss of reach.

I might be wrong but I remember that in Wing Chun, instead of hitting hard, you hit fast.

So you blast as many punches as you can into their diaphragm to compress it so they can't catch their breath and strike back.

Without experience I just have to analogize everything and create a way that works for me.

 



You are correct, I have some experience in Wing-Chung, it is a very up close and personal style with a heavy focus on speed and precision with the goal to compassionate an opponent ASAP
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« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2012, 08:21:37 PM »

So many good martial arts styles out there, I wish I had enough time to learn them all.
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