Saber Forum

A thread for discussion of all things Star Trek, movies, TV, personal projects, costumes, whatever. What sparked me to start this now? I'm glad you asked! No, it's not the movie coming out next year..... it's my recent discovery that a piece of my childhood has been pulled out of the dumpster. Quite literally. A Mr.  Huston Huddleston was apparently fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time, and discovered a full scale set from the 1990s of the Star Trek The Next Generation Enterprise D BRIDGE, sitting neglected and dilapidated on an outdoor storage lot in Long Beach. (this is the part where I raz Kham for not knowing this was in his back yard) He found it through a friend, and at the end of last year after long negotiations with the lot owners was told 'Look, we know you want this thing. If you don't take it right now, we're trashing it and selling the metal parts for scrap.' He was actually allowed to take it at the cost of shipping only, and has now undertaken the massive project of restoring it from five YEARS of rain, sun, wind, and weather, not just to it's former glory.... but to the ultimate dream. A fully operational, interactive, accurate, Enterprise Bridge. They plan to replace all the console backlights with actual working touch screens, and install computers to turn it into a real life combination episode and video game. It will be run as a non profit and opened up for charity work, weddings, fan films, and the like, the idea being that it should be restored and run by fans, for fans, to be shared with everybody, and used for constructive and educational purposes.

The official website for the project is here:
http://newstarship.com/ (http://newstarship.com/)
and has information on how to contribute or help out, as well as lots of neat pictures and videos on it. :)

The article I found out about it through is here:
http://trekmovie.com/2012/10/26/save-the-bridge-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-the-project-to-restore-the-enterprise-d-bridge/ (http://trekmovie.com/2012/10/26/save-the-bridge-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-the-project-to-restore-the-enterprise-d-bridge/)
and has some more interesting info and an interview of sorts with the Bridge's owner.

For anyone who saw Of Gods and Men (Best fanfilm ever)..... they're doing it again! http://startrekrenegades.com/ (http://startrekrenegades.com/) Chekov and Tuvok are doing a Pilot in an attempt to get a Star Trek Web Series going, and there's a LOAD of trek and other actors cast already.... including some people from Clone Wars, Xena, Stargate I think was listed, and other famous shows. I for one am most eager to see how this turns out!

I thought we already had a Star Trek thread.

Nope. Just one for Dan's Model Build.

Oh Manroon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diP-o_JxysA#ws)

I am calling it now. It's either the Gary Mitchell flick everyone thinks it is.... or, because that would be so painfully obvious, let me just say the one name I've not heard suggested for this from TOS. And I freely admit I lean towards Mitchell, BTW. ;)

Doctor.... Roger.... Korby.

And let me tell you all why. Two clues.

1) 'I have returned' Mitchell from what I hear was dealt with and dispatched in some comic book series that people are saying is canon? (when has any Trek not on screen been canon? LOL) so that could point to him fairly easily. Korby though was MIA in TOS for some time when they went and found his freaky robo-korby and robo-lurch on that ice ball. It could be his return of which the line is referring to.

2) The screaming blonde. Rack your brains for TOS lore. There aren't many blue uniformed blondes who got names. Nurse Chapel, who was commed but never shown in the first movie, Doctor Elizabeth (last name escapes me) from the Mitchell story, and.... well that's all I've got. Rand wore a red uniform, Doctor Marcus was never in starfleet, and Gillian Taylor isn't supposed to get to the 23rd century for another several decades even if you grant her a blue uniform she never had.

So evidence continues to mount in favor of Gary, but I'm thinking Korby is a possibility. Or equally slim odds might also somehow favor Charlie X. But Mr Villain doesn't really look like ol' Charlie much.


Also, I have one thing about this trailer I must say: The Enterprise pulling a Yamato out of the bay is SO. MUCH. WIN!!!!

And thanks for linking this up! I read on Tuesday that it was supposed to be released this week, but it was late and I didn't catch which day. I totally missed it!

There's a Japanese trailer out there that has an additional scene... I won't say much, but the rumors of the lack of appearance of Khan may have been exaggerated.

Gillian Taylor I will grant you, due to the fact that she's from the 1980s, but the rest are really up in the air. Remember, this is a new timeline. Everything is up for grabs.



Agreed. Though we don't know it it was actually the Enterprise. Too much water in the way to see the registration number.



Glad to help.

Also, here's the afore-mentioned other trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrHlQUXFzfw#ws)

Oh, he's screwing with us now. He's so screwing with us. But they are contracted for three movies, right? Don't tell me #3 is going to be about the Search for somebody..... lol I dunno. It almost looks to me, given the scene and the information, that it's Kirk who's inside the glass this time around. I also didn't notice Scotty holding Blondie in the first trailer. Perhaps that's another clue as to her identity.

I could swear I could make out a 70 or 701 on the registry. Either way, those fins on the nacelles are new, aren't they? Perhaps we're looking at a refit or another vessel. I'd say the one shown later being blown out of the bay was definitely a Connie though, and I'd hate to think of the Enterprise doing a frontflip like that. Structural Integrity would just be shot to heck after that.

I just found my favorite DS9 clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0p7JbcAo8Y# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0p7JbcAo8Y#)

I love me some Star Trek yes I do.

Original through to the reboot...I am a fan...met many of the stars and production folks...and if I could afford it I would build my upcoming bed and breakfast as a Trek themed place, but the issues are just gruesome.

I have a positive nod for making a Firefly class ship as long as no names/images are used from the show.

I would have preferred a Trek theme...but we are talking limited use that costs hundreds of thousands, upfront.

Anyway love me some Trek!

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Going back and taking a further look at it, I too can see the Enterprise registry numbers (specifically, the 170). However, the shape makes me think that it's one of her shuttles as opposed to the Enterprise itself.

I'm betting it's her. I went back and looked at the Reboot Enterprise again, and the nacelles are a definite match. There's a slim chance of it being another Connie in the 1700 registry range, but I have doubts they'd put another Connie on screen for this. Still, with the front flip she did in there.... it may be one of the others. Defiant, Constitution, Excaliber, Lexington, or Potemkin maybe. I just can't see them wrecking the original enterprise again. That'd be so sad to have to watch again....  :'(

The nacelles may be a match, but unless the Enterprise has been refit with Cybertronian technology, there's no accounting for the fact that the nacelles are located directly on a boxy shape.

I dunno, that boxy shape looks more to me like the front of the starboard nacelle, with the aft end of the nacelles slightly refit compared to the first movie to give that odd shape. Darn water getting in the way. lol

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Thought you guys might enjoy this Trek/Wars mash-up.

I started watching Enterprise last night on Netflix...

Thoughts so far?

I've heard people bag on Enterprise quite a bit.

Enterprise suffered from potential, excellent sets, excellent actors, and several seasons of really bad story ideas with even worse writing. Nobody needed the Xindi thing, nobody wanted it. It had a few good episodes, true, but I'm sorry.... basing the entire show on a temporal cold war from start to finish was a bad idea. Nobody wanted that, and very few people liked it. I mean heck, what did we get of actual exploration in the show between the suliban and the xindi? Half a season without a recurring bad guy? Maybe? I rest my case.

New details on the new movie...

http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/10/alice-eve-character-7-more-star-trek-into-darkness-characterstory-details-revealed-at-bad-robot-visit/ (http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/10/alice-eve-character-7-more-star-trek-into-darkness-characterstory-details-revealed-at-bad-robot-visit/)

I liked Enterprise just fine.

It suffered from what many shows today have going for them, too many hands in the kitchen...everyone wants a turn...in the end I would rather watch marginally appreciated Star Trek then any reality show, average TV shmutz, or related.

 ;D

Me too, Rel. Me too. ;)

And Jev.... my word.... they are really throwing us for loops now, aren't they? Dr Marcus is back? And in Starfleet? And now we have John Harrison? Who the heck is that guy? And how is he from Trek Canon? What, was he redshirt number four or something? lol

“In ‘Space Seed,’ Harrison was nearly suffocated to death on the Enterprise bridge by unfrozen superman Khan.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Seed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Seed)

I for sure thought it was going to be more of a Gary Mitchell villain, although it still could be but with a different name.

it was ok, though I only watched the first two episodes.

I still think it's Khan.

Remember when Marion Cotillard was cast as Miranda Tate in The Dark Knight Rises? Everyone was assuming that she might actually be Talia al'Ghul. However, the studio categorically denied that it was Talia on multiple occasions. Guess what... it was her.

Might be the same scenario here.

Of course, the Garth of Izar theory is a good one as well.

A third option is that this might actually be a canon character.... http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Harrison) and perhaps Peter Weller will be playing Khan...

I saw what you did there...


In TOS Season 1 Episode 15 "Shore Leave" Kirk meets up with his adversary and bully from his academy days, Upperclassman Sean Finnegan appears and torments Kirk again...but it is all part of an extensive pleasure/R&R planet's effort tofufillyour deepest wish...Kirk's was to get back at Finnegan.

:)

lol

Thinking that it's Technician Harrison, suffering some Gary Mitchell type effect either from one of numerous possible alien phenomena he could have been exposed to on a previously canon or new to the film mission, or perhaps most likely...... Khan does something to him. Khan is then dispatched. Harrison goes insane o and starts trying to carry out the dream Khan gave him of conquering all life as we know it with his new found superpowers.

Also.... the only family he has left: his crew. line from the synopsis. Let's address that real quick and make the call right now: Dr Marcus stands a very good chance of getting killed off in this movie. I'm fifty fifty on David making any appearance or surviving one.

Funny you mention that,

This is just ScreeRant's thoughts on their IMAX Preview.

If there is a comparison to be made between the opening of Star Trek 2/Star Trek into Darkness to other films, it would be a cross between the opening of Raiders of the Lost Ark and a typical James Bond movie. That is to say that it opens with a sequence that (at this point) seems disconnected from the main story, and is instead presented to establish the characters and where they are contextually within the Star Trek universe.

The introduction indicates that the film does not pick up directly after the end of the first film – instead it shows that the starship Enterprise is already into its mission, and that the crew has been working together for a while. The relationships seem more established – and Kirk is put into a position where he must choose between the needs of the many or the needs of the few. It also depicts the USS Enterprise in a situation we haven’t seen before, and we have no doubt that Trekkies will debate the viability of the ship’s ability to function in this environment.

Prior to the Bond/Raiders-esque sequence, there is a short series of scenes that do tie into the plot – and they are enticingly vague. Benedict Cumberbatch does make an appearance – and that appearance is of a nature that will spark some debate regarding the competing rumors as to who, exactly, he plays in the film.

Source: http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-imax-preview/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-imax-preview/)

DAH! I wanna see the nine minutes! lol

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You have been Trekked and are all welcome!

 ;D

SO MUCH WIN!  :D

Lol...I had to copy/post each pic separate whew  :)

Benedict Cumberbatch, J.J. Abrams Talk ‘Star Trek Into Darkness’ Villain

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-into-darkness-villain-details/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-into-darkness-villain-details/)

(Instead of making a new thread I decided to just post this here; interesting little tidbits.)

And the plot thickens.....  :D

More updates.

‘Star Trek Into Darkness’: The Visual Effects, Weaponry & New Klingon Design

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-into-darkness-cgi-props/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-into-darkness-cgi-props/)

And the Kham news network delivers yet again. lol

Star Trek Into Darkness - Official Trailer (HD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gdbUC9mWU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5gdbUC9mWU#ws)

Looks great to me!

I can appreciate the reboot because the guys/gals doing it love Trek.

If SyFy got their hands on it...well...let me just say two words...Rock Monster.

Anyway the reboot will bring into the fold a whole new generation, and that is the legacy that Gene truly left behind...men rising above their stations to excel in the face of the unknown in a brave future.

The reboot gets thumbs up from me...I am a fan of each show and each version.

Well on them   ;D

10 Questions From The ‘Star Trek 2′ Trailers

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-questions/ (http://screenrant.com/star-trek-2-questions/)

Number 3 will really make you think about where this re-imagining is going.

Dah! I wanna see the 9 minutes even more now. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ynb20P898k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ynb20P898k)

Oh my.

It had to be done, that video made me giggle something fierce.  :D

Which aliens stand out for you from the Star Trek universe?

You know the ones that make you smile whenever you see them?

Feel free to say Klingon or Vulcan but if you have any others, those also would be appreciated.

There are a few  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_races (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_races)

A couple of mine...

Andorians...top of the pile for me
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Tellarite...I know I know...silly pig men, but the potential is there and I like what was done on Enterprise with them
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Bolians...yes another blue one...what can I say, I like blue lol
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...the toxic nature of their biology is intriguing.

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My current Desktop Wallpaper

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Hab SoSlI' Quch!

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Jeffrey Combs as Commander Shran FTW! Best thing about Enterprise. Other than a beagle in space, that is. Did anyone else see Seth Mcfarlane's cameo? Awesome.

I did not see that cameo, but it would explain many things about Enterprise.... XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0p7JbcAo8Y# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0p7JbcAo8Y#)

Heh heh heh. The episode was as funny as the rick roll.

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Far too many good lego and lego esque products this year. I want the Kelvin.

As those aren't actually Lego, they are Kre-o, I'm curious as to their quality.  Do they stay together as Lego, because some lego knock offs are notorious for falling apart.  I want that D7 cruiser.

Oh, I knew they weren't lego. 's why I said lego and lego esque. I dunno about Kreo's quality. I have some Knects stuff, but really just the Mario Figures. Currently my Luigi is doing battle with the Sarlac, while Toad watches in horror. I need to post pics of that.... lol

Now for the sheer fact that there are four vacant chairs on the bridge of the larger enterprise.... I have to wonder what the odds are that there will be minifigs for the rest of the crew. Because I could get me some Star Trek minifigs. I'd prefer DS9 ones though..... *ponders the epicness of Lego Worf*

Lego Martok, in a Lego Rotarran, with Lego barrels of bloodwine in the cargo hold.


Lego Worf in a Bat'leth fight with Lego Chancellor Gowron!

I.want Lego martok. Martok and the rotarran are win. BTW.... did I ever tell you I own part of that ship? Cause I only just figured out that was where my screen was from last week. Lol ;D

I need to get a klingon disruptor to go with my saber.

I don't know if anyone else noticed this but as much as I love Star Trek and OS, TNG, V, etc. I have noticed that a lot of episodes, but especially TNG are almost like a big Soap Opera.

Like, today's episode is one about Data and his struggles to finding humanity.  Oh, but there's a twist, the Marklarian alien has infiltrated the ship only it turns out it's looking for it's twin, or something.

It seems like the whole sci-fi aspect takes a back seat and a great deal of it focuses on character development but with a bunch of technobabble thrown in to still make it Star Trek.

There are many exceptions like Time's Arrow and whatnot, but most episodes involving Troi or Worf is like a big soap opera.  At least I do care about the well-being of the characters, it just seems a bit of a stretch from the original series which had character development, but it was a back seat to the sci-fi and exploration or drama.

Thoughts?

Roddenberry's vision was that the soul of Trek was the exploration of the human condition, with an optimistic view of mankind's potential and future.  As cool as much of the sci-fi part was, the writing teams for all the Trek series used it mostly to expand the narrative canvas; and camouflage a few of the more contentious themes.   :)

You hit the nail on the head - soap space opera, for the most part.  The depth, complexity, and intelligence of modern TV writing is head and shoulders above those golden decades.  However, the head and shoulders needed a solid body to grow from.  In watching some older Trek recently, it still pushes many of the emotional and intellectual buttons for me.  

Pretentiousness ramble ends...    ;D

So I've started watching TNG and today marks my first day as a Trekkie, because I now feel qualified to go on the internet and talk with authority. :D I think I saw the episode you're talking about- was it the one with the Vulcan ambassador that was secretly a Romulan? That episode just reminded me of MLP the whole way through.

I remember when my uncle came into the room on day in 1987 (I was 9) and said there was a show that I should watch that I might really enjoy. The episode's title was "Encounter at Farpoint", and I was hooked on the show ever since - even with Troi blubbering "Great joy and gratitude" over and over again at the end of part two. Never missed an episode (that I wasn't able to catch up on)!  ;D

The Best of Both Worlds

Greatest cliffhangar episode of all time.

TNG - Relics

James Doohan as Scotty on a TNG episode, pure awesome!

Picard: The first vessel that I served on as captain was called Stargazer. It was an overworked, underpowered vessel, always on the verge of flying apart at the seams. In every measurable sense, my Enterprise is far superior. But there are times when I would give almost anything... to command the Stargazer again.

Scotty: Ah, it's like the first time you fall in love. You don't ever love a woman quite like that again. Well, to the Enterprise, and the Stargazer - old girlfriends we'll never meet again.

Best line of the entire episode, right there.

That and -

Computer Voice: Please enter program.
Scotty: The android at the bar said you could show me my old ship. Let me see it.
Computer Voice: Insufficient data. Please specify parameters.
Scotty: [frustrated] The Enterprise. Show me the bridge of the Enterprise, you chatterin' piece of...
Computer Voice: There have been five Federation ships with that name. Please specify by registry number.
Scotty: N-C-C-1-7-0-1. No bloody A - B - C - or D!

"Just because something is old, that doesn't mean you throw it away!"

"Right you are, Mr. LaFARGE!"

Thread full of win here. 8)

My first Trek fanvid!

Data and Lal- You'll Be In My Heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9GPBZb_Ys#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9GPBZb_Ys#ws)

Comments please!

Bumpy bump

Not bad, Rogue! Good choice of song and episode, both are favorites of mine and they fit together well. :) I'd say you did nicely picking scenes and matching them up to the song, but most of the transitions were sort of abrupt, and sometimes a little jumpy when the scenes were close together. I think I saw one where Lal and Data just suddenly switched spots without walking. lol Of course, I'm one to talk, I can't edit video at all. XD Anyways, great work! The second half in particular was very well matched up and I loved the ending.

Man, that was one of the best TNG episodes too...

I just watched Star Trek for the first time. I think I'm in love.

I'm assuming you mean the movie from 2009?

No, the first episode of the Original Series. THE MAN TRAP.

Ah, BRAVO HOBBIE! Way to start at the beginning! All my point are belong to you. 8) Also, your first lesson in Trek Trivia. The Man Trap, while the first episode AIRED, was not actually the first episode. The technical first episode is The Cage, an unaired pilot shot in black and white with almost entirely different actors. The second pilot, Where No Man Has Gone Before, was aired, but later in the first season. (which made the different uniforms a bit confusing lol)

So.... who's your favorite character so far?

*furiously scribbles down notes* ;D Thanks, that is pretty interesting. My favorite character would probably have to be Spock. Its probably going to change, though. It always does. I also really enjoy the slow pacing of the show, as well as the attention to detail, if that makes any sense. There is just this charm to older shows that I really enjoy.

*nods* I feel you. Wait till you finish TOS and get to the movies. The detail in those was fantastic, especially the Refit Enterprise and the uniforms. Personally, I've never been able to pick a single favorite character from any of the shows, but for TOS I really like everybody about the same. Perhaps Chekov and Uhura a little bit less, but it really depends on the episode. Chekov has some great episodes, like the Space Hippies, or Specter of the Gun. Gosh I loved Specter of the Gun, that episode was the best! I think my three faves are probably Scotty, Sulu, and Spock though.

Yeah, I'm starting to like everyone about the same, as well. Gosh darn it, you got me addicted to Star Trek ;D This show is just too good.

Another point for you! I look forward to witnessing your growth into a full fledged Trekkie.  ;D (You're welcome. XD)

Captain's Log, Stardate 5ihavenoidea0

I have arrived on a strange planet whose inhabitants resemble giant lizards. They have taken....... I don't know what I'm doing.

Chief Security Officer's Log, Stardate 51324.7

The Captain is hallucinating again and has beamed down to a starport on the Northern Continent of Rigel IV complaining of giant lizards in his quarters and itchy fingernails. I've ordered Expendable Ensign 32 to accompany him, by choice of the other redshirts pushing him onto the transporter pad first. Ahhh, the safety of making Lt. Think I'll go get a coffee... Chief Saotome, signing off.

Manny, that is making me yearn for the Jersey even more! I can't tell you how close I came to breaking the "no RPing outside of the RP section" rule there lol.

Captain's log, stardate 1535.9.

I was sad to see Charlie go, but I suppose it was for the best. I honestly believe that, with time, we could have molded that young man into a fine member of our society. But alas, that was never meant to be. He's a boy in a man's body, trying to be an adult with the adolescence in him getting in the way.

Heh heh. I was wondering when you'd hit Charlie X. Great episode. I always thought Rand was cool. They did some interesting things with the character, and the actress has a great story too as I recall. :)

I was busy :(

Anyway, the scenes where Captain Kirk was trying really hard to help Charlie was what really stood out to me. He only raised his voice once, when he wasn't getting through to him, but ultimately, the entire time, he was very calm and patient. I think that says a lot about his character, and it reminds me of moments between me and my dad when I was younger. The scenes were just so... real. Especially when Kirk took Charlie for some male-to-male bonding with the wrestling bit, and when he had to awkwardly explain to him why he shouldn't slap women on the butt (his facial expressions in this scene were hilarious ;D).

But yeah, Charlie reminds me of me (well, except for the crazed killer aspect).

P.S. I reaaaally want to play three-dimensional chess now....

Computer!  Activate manual steering column!

Bluuuue skiiiiiiiies, smilin' at meeeee. Nothin' but bluuuue skies, do I see....

There are four lights!

Shut up Wesley!

OMG I just watched an episode of TNG where Worf had to go get his honor back and it turns into a Klingon civil war and he leaves the Enterprise crew and at the end one of the villians steps out of the shadows and it's Tasha?! Do you know which one I'm talking about?

That ep is BA, as are several that relate to it. I know Kev will join me in saying that just about all Klingon episodes are cool. Q'aPla! lol

Also, I loved Data getting the Sutherland. That was awesome. 8)

Klingons achieve so much win.   



Oh yeah, she causes all sorts of trouble.

Also, I wish to give no spoilers, but.... Yesterday. That's all I'm going to say. That, and what I'm referencing was FULL OF WIN.

Oh c'mon, that can't really be Tasha.

Believe it or not, I had that figured out within just a couple of minutes after seeing her...certainly before the next episode got going on the disk lol

indeed.

Speaking of Full Of Win...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP9PLYJxjaM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP9PLYJxjaM#)

OMG I GOT THE REFERENCE NOW!! YAY FOR CONTUNUITY!! YAY!!

Yeah, I'm all for continuity, but not when they abandon one of the biggest plot hooks ever (the neural parasites from Season 1, Episode 25 "Conspiracy" - and, no, I don't consider the tie-in novels to be a resolution) and decide to bring in time travel hijinks to bring back Denise Crosby, who decided to leave the show early on because she thought it would fail and wanted to get a movie career going (which unironically failed).

It wouldn't be Star Trek without time travel hijinks.

I desperately want to see a Romulan based ST series. Within the main universe of course; not the new Abrams one.

Romulans are honor-less petaq.

Spoken like a brute who cannot comprehend Mnhei'sahe ;)

You know what would probably never happen, but would be soooo cool?

Roving Star Trek Series. Each week, a new episode with a different focus. Week 1 the crew of a Romulan Scoutship in the 24th century. Week 2 a Klingon Spy in the 23rd century. Week 3 a virus breaks out and we watch Starfleet Medical save the day. Week 4 we see the Romulan reaction to the Borg attacks along the Neutral Zone. Week 5 A Klingon ship on the frontier battles the Yorktown of the 23rd century. Week 6 A Mirror Universe episode. Week 7 Criminal Organization plagues Starbase 37. Week 8 The USS Akira gets her Shakedown Cruise. Etc, Etc, Etc.

I doubt it would ever happen, the cost of new sets every week alone would kill it before it got off the ground, but perhaps if they picked 3 or 4 concepts to switch between? Follow certain groups on a round robin system? *shrug* Either way, it would be an epic idea to see happen. You could elaborate on everything we never saw in the previous shows. Arne Darvin infiltrated the Federation Beuracracy for the Klingon Empire... I mean, who hasn't wondered how many more Klingon Agents were out there working in the Federation? The Romulans? It would be soooo interesting to see things like that. How did Harry Mudd get out of jail again? Where did Wesley Crusher go with the Traveller? *dodges fruit* When they did that episode with two voyagers and Harry Kim and Naomi Wildman had to jump to the other voyager when there's was destroyed, what were the differences in history between the two voyagers? What about the Yesterday's Enterprise Alternate Timeline? And perhaps most importantly.... how many other people's lives did Q screw up as bad as Picards? XD

Oh I agree completely. I just want my Neural Parasites back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Vr9LnogLM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Vr9LnogLM#)

Nice idea! Maybe have it set in a certain time, following the crews of a Klingon, Romulan, and Federation ships...have the three be approaching something (either a cataclysm or a Q test) from their own angles, and meet up every now and then.

Neural Parasites? You mean Commander Hamburger Head?  ;D lol That was a great special effect the way they killed him off. I read an article on it in the Star Trek Magazine once.

Take a look at this trailer :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dfhWr9l1NI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dfhWr9l1NI#ws)

I remember hearing about that! Glad to see it's moving forward! :)

Indeed it it! Apparently, it's got a half million dollar budget and quite the cast! Man, I'm definitely getting a Trek yearning going on. I'm downloading an update for STO so I can play a bit tonight...and I want to play as S'Ldeleth!

Here’s the official Star Trek Into Darkness synopsis:

In the wake of a shocking act of terror from within their own organization, the crew of The Enterprise is called back home to Earth. In defiance of regulations and with a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads his crew on a manhunt to capture an unstoppable force of destruction and bring those responsible to justice.

As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death, love will be challenged, friendships will be torn apart, and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.

An added bonus picture:
(http://cdn1.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Star-Trek-Into-Darkness-Enterprise-Dreadnaught.jpg)

*debates whether or not to buy into the Abrams-verse Enterprise E looking ship facing off with the Abra-prise*

yeah that threw me off then again, the abrams-prise is the same size roughly as the Enterprise D.......

Ah well, we all know none of them compares to the Refit. ;)

honestly i like it better than the refit constitution class lol

manroon, start playing trek again buddy, i got into a lvl 15 fleet thats taking anyone, is organised well, and actually helps each other out

Theoretically, there is a Saberforum Fleet out there. Daniel Anteron was heading it up, but I haven't heard from him in ages. Not sure if the Fleet is still around or not. I do kinda wanna get back into it again, but I'd probably only be playing one day a week or so if I did....

It should be around still, though I went to another fleet ages ago.  I've been playing off and on lately, playing the Cystalline Entity event.  That one is fun. 

yeah the fleet im in has 200+ active members across canada, the usa, uk, france, and germany so no matter what day you play on there is always someone to play with

everyone is pretty active, its well organized in terms of ranks, what you need to do to rank up, stf groups, group pvp, organising different events, helping each other out with builds and weapons loadouts

and they take anyone, as long as you act like you do here on saberforum just generally being good polite people, you should have no problems in the fleet, and manny there are tons of trek nerds in there, you would be right at home

Geek. Not Nerd. I don't wear a pocket protector or do higher math for fun. ;)

THIS IS WHAT I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE. And by people, I mean my parents.

What?

Yet NERD stands for Not Even Remotely Dorky...

Back to Trek! I want a single, spayed Tribble.

I have one. ;D

You rule...again lol

Hmmm I suspect one of two things would happen...as tribbles dedicate over fifty percent of their metabolism for reproduction if we were to alter said reproductive system then we may surmise that the modified tribble would become grossly fat, due to resources being dedicated to a process that does not exist...or...the tribble may become subject to a wasting syndrome due to the loss of purpose; some animals fall into a depressive state without the opportunity to breed/birth when the cycle comes around and for a tribble that cycle is always on.

Most likely the better option would be to carefully regulate the food intake and or find a way to handle/manage the excess population...harvest the fur and meat perhaps.

One would think that the market value to those without much mobility and function would be quite high...it has been shown that the elderly, physically restricted, and infirm rebound with quiet contact with a cat...surely a tribble would be all that and more.

Hmmm tribble indeed, I will have one also thank you  :)

A fat tribble would be fun, you could use it as a beach ball :D

...What's a tribble, anyways?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tribble (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tribble)

*insert picard and riker double facepalm meme here*

Ask and you will receive!

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg)
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/032/3/5/star_trek_facepalm_fail_by_kutpuppy27-d4odfxz.png)
(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads//2012/04/star-trek-facepalm.jpg?802b89)
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/miah_ashlee/Random/motivator83b3cf70f7bd178a52a1c9b2df6b726be5eb3cf8.jpg)
(http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr105/TACAV/Facepalm3_zpsadcaf2e0.jpg)

*insert obligatory "well that escalated quickly!" meme here*

When even worf facepalms.....you really failed

Aye Sir, I'll get right on it...
(http://www.fatwallet.com/static/attachments/251256_anchorman_well_that_escalated_quickly_966.jpg)

Cap'n, ah'm givin' 'er shee got, shee cannae take much more!

Sorry, I've just never seen the original.

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2010/07/trouble-with-tribbles-uhura-660.jpg)

http://www.startrek.com/watch_episode/0QMOhb1iPLbe (http://www.startrek.com/watch_episode/0QMOhb1iPLbe)

Enjoy  :)

There are commercials...but it is free...it is what it is  :)

Found this on screen rant!

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Michael Dorn Confirms Work on Star Trek: Captain Worf

Geek favorites Bryan Fuller and Bryan Singer have been forthcoming about their hopes for bringing Star Trek back to the small screen, after the release of J.J. Abrams’ elusive sequel to his Trek movie reboot next summer. However, it turns out those two aren’t the only ones with big dreams about a new TV series set in that sci-fi universe – Michael Dorn is also taking steps to reprise his signature Trek role on a spinoff, tentatively titled Star Trek: Captain Worf.

Worf, Son of Mogh, of course, is the first Klingon main character on a Star Trek TV series. He appeared on The Next Generation throughout its seven-season run, then became a Deep Space Nine regular for its last four seasons. Dorn portrayed Worf in all four Next Generation films; in addition, he played Worf’s grandfather, Colonel Worf, in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.

Rumors and reports about a prospective Worf spinoff began circulating earlier this year – which, perhaps not-so-coincidentally, marks the 25th anniversary of The Next Generation. Trek News caught up with recently with Dorn, who gave them the following exclusive “scoop” on the project:

“I had come up with the idea because I love [Worf] and I think he’s a character that hasn’t been fully developed and hasn’t been fully realized. Once I started thinking about it, it became obvious to me that I wanted to at least put it out there, which I have, and the response has been pretty amazing. We’ve been contacted by different individuals–I can’t say who and all that–about wanting to come on board and be part of this. ”

Deep Space Nine concluded with Worf being made Federation ambassador to the Klingon homeworld, Qo’noS. An official prequel comic book to Abrams’ Trek reboot featured Worf as a Klingon Empire General, who battles the Romulan Captain Nero (Eric Bana, in Abrams’ film). Worf sustained life-threatening injuries during the encounter, but it was indicated he was still alive by the story’s conclusion.

However, the overlap between events on DS9 and the Star Trek film continuity has always been kind of fuzzy; hence, it stands to reason that could also hold true for a Worf spinoff and the post-reboot movies. Dorn’s in the same boat of uncertainty as Fuller and Singer, when it comes to how his plans are affected by Abrams’ films – as he put it, “there’s all the political stuff going on with the new movies with J.J. Abrams and Paramount and all that stuff, which I have no clue about and what it all entails, but that’s where it is right now.”



The in-progress subtitle Captain Worf is open to interpretation, as far as indications for when, exactly, the TV series could take place. Such a Star Trek spinoff would, for certain, retain the ensemble format of its predecessors to some degree – with a focus on the adventures of Worf and a new group of space explorers. Morever, Dorn says the show isn’t so much a pipe dream as one might think (at first):

“Interestingly enough it has gotten traction. I was very surprised, I was on a movie not too long ago, where one of the producers was basically lobbying to be part of it. He was like “Michael, I’d love to write it, if you haven’t.” So at this point, my agents and my manager are looking at all the avenues and trying to figure out which is the best one. My agent and manager have been in the business for awhile, so they’re very savvy about where to start and how to get it going. Like I said, in this business you never know and I’ve been through pitching things and I never want to do that again [laughs]. It’s pretty brutal, but definitely I think once again, if Paramount or CBS or anybody thinks this is a viable thing, they’ll jump on it.”

Worf’s Klingon manner and instincts often put him at odds with his fellow officers on The Next Generation, as hilariously highlighted in this 15-minute compilation video; still, there were a few episodes on DS9 that explored Worf’s personal sense of duty and honor beyond the surface level. Nonetheless, there does remain room for further development of the character – even given the substantial amount of backstory already in place for Worf.

However, as Dorn mentions above, the Star Trek: Captain Worf television series is far from getting an official greenlight right now. Nevertheless, we will keep you up-to-date on the situation as more information is released (or Dorn continues to talk about it).

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I'd love to see this happen.

Odd... I'd always heard that Michael Dorn said they couldn't pay him enough to put that makeup back on...

Not getting paid to not wear it may have started to change his mind?

I welcome any Trek  :)

Just saying...I really appreciated the Mirror Mirror themed episodes regardless of the series...

(http://www.allmystery.de/i/td1f203_T-Pol-vs-Hoshi-star-trek-enterprise-6617.jpg)

:)

Little piece of Trek trivia...T'Pol is vulcan for sweet yummy nom noms  :)

So I've got the radio on to the Fish..... and they do their little Traffic and News bit. With Next Gen on in the background. Awesome. 8)

...and Seven of Nine is Borg-speak for "supah-hawt catsuit wearing vixen with no acting talent"...

Ok my fellow trekkers and trekkies...rate the following with 1 being favorite and 5 being the least, though that does not mean you hate them  :)


Alphabetical order for a starting point...

Andorian

Human

Klingon

Romulan

Vulcan


:)

Choose a hard list why dontcha? I'm kidding of course, but that's a hard choice for me.

I would have to say, keeping in mind that the top three are VERY close...so close that I'm wavering on their position:

1 - Vulcan. Vulcans have always appealed to me with their wisdom, knowledge, and refusal to be controlled by emotion.

2 - Romulan. I find the Romulan culture and mindset incredibly interesting. Where the Klingons have the honor of war, death, and blood, the Romulans have personal honor that cannot be slighted.

3 - Klingon. Again, honor. Beyond that, Klingons are warriors who fight for a cause (the cause being honor) rather than a desire to enslave (like Sith).

4 - Human. Hey, I've gotta be there somewhere. Humans really rise to the occasion in Star Trek though. We've got the insatiable desire to learn and explore, even though we're often outmatched.

5 - Andorian. I never did particularly like the Andorians...probably because of their senseless enmity with the Vulcans. At least the Romulans and Klingons had a reason to hate the Vulcans. I find the Andorians boring though. Again, just my thought.

See, this is why I ask these sort off questions...gaining insights into how others see the world.

My list, is a bit different.

1. Andorian...I have always likes them...the antenna always struck me as a classic 50' alien and sci-fi novel consideration...the blue skin is attractive...I liked the focus and aggression without being stupid about it, almost stereotypical Russian in their calm and calculating methods (no insult intended to our Russian forumites!)

2. Romulan...for this choice it is more the ships than the aliens, but I like the Romulans themselves also...military minded, serious, focused...pointed ears without the restrictions of pure logic

3. Klingon...though not for the same reasons that many might...I like the weapons and the look of the lumps/bumps as much as anyone else...I appreciate the Bushido aspect that many follow, the samurai aspect draws me in...that and their food...nom nom

4. Vulcan...all things that the Jedi council would appreciate...logic before emotion, thought before action, communication before the sword...I appreciate the Vulcans as much as anyone, but as with Humans a bit too common for my tastes...like cool clean water, which is healthy and tastes great but it is no wine or soup...I prefer flavor

5. Human...so vanilla in a cooler filled with flavors...great for stock, rank and file...redshirts  :)...I would put Tellerites at 5 and move Humans down to 6 if I could lol


PS
Ben I just caught that you listed them in counter alphabetical order...clever!

1 - Romulan. A culture that espouses the virtues of personal honor, yet are amongst the masters of deceit and treachery, is just fascinating. In combat, where the Klingons would be a bruiser seeking to overpower you with brute strength, the Romulans would either slip a knife into your guts or poison you. Definitely a species you want on your side, so long as you keep an eye out in case they decide to betray you.

2 - Human. Quark said it best: "Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes."

3 - Klingon. A proud warrior race that regards honor as the one thing that makes a Klingon a Klingon. Their culture, while brutal, is strangely beautiful. The only thing that keeps the Klingons low on the list is the fact that they tend to allow the demands of honor to overshadow basic common sense. It is better to die in glorious combat against an enemy that outguns and outnumbers you than to run away. Straightforward attacks are honorable and sneak attacks are considered unworthy of a Klingon.

4 - Vulcans. The entire concept of hiding your emotions... to give up the dizzying highs of happiness to avoid the abysmal lows of anger... just seems fundamentally flawed.

I am not putting a score for Andorians because so little is known about their culture.

!. Klingons - I have always been a huge fan of the Klingons.  I love their ship designs, the Bird of Prey especially.  They make great bad-guys ans great allies.  I really like their mythologies too:  Kortar, the first Klingon who decided the gods were more trouble than they were worth and destroyed them, and Kahless the Unforgettable who forged the first Bat'leth by thrusting a lock of his hair into the fires of the Kri'stak volcano and twisted it into a sword and used it to defeat Molor.

2. Human - Gotta rep my peeps, lol.  Jean-luc Picard, Geordi, Chief O'brien and Commander Riker.  I especially like Geordi because there weren't many characters on T.V. shows I watched with a disability like that and I thought it was great that they had a main character with one.  That visor was all kinds of cool. I grew up watching these guys and are my favorites.  Honorable mention to Data because he just was so dang fun to watch, always learning and striving to be better.  

3. Romulans - Great bad guys, always sneaking around and tugging on strings from the shadows.  I love a good Romulan plot.

4. Vulcans - Green Blooded Hobgoblins.  I like them ok, but found that their shunning of emotion made it somewhat hard for me to really be interested in them.  

5. Andorians - Didn't watch Enterprise and don't really remember them from any other shows.


"Destroying an Empire to win a war is no victory. And ending a battle to save an Empire is no defeat."

I would also disagree about the sneak-attack.  A Klingon wouldn't use poison and perhaps not stab you in the back, but I don't think they  considered sneak attacks unworthy or dishonorable, after all, they make extensive use of the cloaking device and I think they believe there is nothing more honorable than victory.

(http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/assets/40205/Andorian_admiral_2286.jpg)

Andoria finds your lack of support...disturbing


 ;D

Kidding of course.  That is one of the many pleasures of Trek...options of opinions...:)

I am still strongly of the opinion that the Borg were much more terrifying before the introduction of the Borg Queen.

With the Queen in place, the Borg were really nothing more than mindless automatons obeying the mandates of their ruler.

Without the Queen, they were a much more frightening prospect because they were a true hivemind, with every Borg contributing to the decision making process, and all with the exact same goal.

While I loved First Contact, the Borg Queen was the worst part of it. Then Voyager came along and REALLY screwed the Borg over.

With or without a queen, Borg are still terrifying.  As for Voyager, I avoid it like the plague.

Oh don't get me wrong, the Borg are indeed terrifying, but look at it like this:

Post-Queen Borg are like a network of computers linked to a powerful central server. Take out that server, and the individual computers are all but useless. We've seen what happens when the Borg Queen died in First Contact. All her drones sparked, shorted out, and died along with her. The Borg Queen is the weak spot in the Collective.

Pre-Queen Borg are literally shared and distributed computing at its finest. Taking out individual components will not stop them. In order to stop them, you have to physically destroy every single copy, for if even one copy remains, it will come back. The pre-Queen Borg are the perfect virus. It feeds, it grows, it adapts to adverse conditions, becoming stronger.

That's why pre-Queen Borg are more terrifying.

I agree completely with this post

It is hard to theorize about Borg when in reality there is very little known.  That theory that the Borg sparked and died when she did seems valid, but she has a tendency to reappear later on and the Borg as a whole seem to go on fine.  There could also be certain pros to having a Queen.  Example: in The Best of Both Worlds part 2, Data defeated the Cube by inserting a command for all borg to regenerate which caused the ship to self destruct.  Now, given the Queen's ability to countermand commands, perhaps she could have negated that.  I know in First Contact Picard said that she was there during his assimilation, but we don't know how long she was there or when she left.

I also find it hard to believe that the Borg who have such adaptability would have such a glaring weakness where killing the Queen would disable all the drones.  Perhaps it affects the Borg nearest her or directly linked to her but not the whole collective.  The wiki claims that the Borg can function for any length of time without a Queen.


it seems there are several instances where different episodes contradict each other, so it's really hard to say.  My personal opinion is that the death of a Queen may have negative short term effects but overall the Collective continues to function.

I concur with Ben, pre-Queen Borg are more terrifying, though First Contact scared the Force outta me as a kid. FTR though, I have ALWAYS acknowledged that the single coolest scene in all of Star Trek was this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCOpG1oNE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4DCOpG1oNE)

'Perhaps today IS a good day to die... prepare for RAMMING SPEED!'

'Sir, there's another starship coming in... ... ... it's the Enterprise!

Boom Boom... Doo doo dee do do da dooo  ;D


Also, if anyone ever read VENDETTA or The Return.... who doesn't like TOS running up against the Borg. Or [Spoiler Alert!] Spock's immunity to Assimilation? Kirk plus Borg Homeworld equal esplosions. lol ;D

While a lot of what you say makes sense Kev, I've always thought of the Queens as being leaders over certain sections or "under collectives" if you will. I mean, we DO see several Borg Queens (and I seem to remember a scene in one of the series where someone is assimilated into a Queen)...that would indicate to me that they are spread out. After all, why have more than one Queen over the entire Collective?

It would make more sense to me (although I still agree that the Queens should have been scrapped), that each Queen works together to help the processing power of the Collective and keep all parts of the Collective working together. Say, for example, Queen A rules Alpha Quadrant, Queen B rules Beta, etc.

FTFY

Okay, so instead of one central server, there are now a few of them. It's still a weak spot.

Oh yes, I agree completely. It just makes a little bit more sense than having one Queen over the entire collective, and then somehow replacing her when the first one dies...even though by the logic shown earlier, all Borg would be dead. Again, it doesn't make up for the addition of the Queen, but it DOES make a tiny bit more sense. What would have been even better IMO, if they were going to add Queens, it have them be on each cube as some sort of communications nexus. Again, that still wouldn't have been as good as keeping the Borg the way they were, but it's better IMO. 

Supposedly, the Queen regulates the transwarp hubs and interspacial manifolds as well as coordinate drones.  I had another theory as well though.  In First Contact Picard says that she was on the cube so how did she survive and she replies he thinks in such three dimensional terms.  Since the collective retains a drones memories or experiences even after it's death, perhaps the Queen can tranfer her consciousness throughout the Collective at will, essentially being able to possess drones at will.  It would explain why she keeps popping up after her supposed death. 

I always kind of thought of the Queen as more of a personification of the Collective, rather than a separate entity.  Picard was assimilated to facilitate humanity's assimilation, a bridge as he called it between the vast differences of the two races.  He was somewhat distinctive and seemed to be able to act as a leader for that attack, basically a glorified drone .  Perhaps the Queen was merely the same way, a figurehead that was supplemental for the Collective but not required.

I've also seen it suggested that she was a virtual entity, the personification of the Collective itself but supposedly the writers denied that theory.

That the Borg use any organic flesh makes little to no sense...absorb knowledge, assimilate technology, and evolve.

Why keep the weak flesh.

They were a creepy bad guy for what the potential offered, but requires a significant does of disbelief, which I have, so this is just a comment.

As such the Queen did not bother me...she makes as much sense as them retaining flesh.

All good in the hood.

 ::)

I agree with this as well. For me, I always chalked the keeping of flesh up to their statement, "Your individuality will be added to our own". Almost a misguided attempt to merge everything together into a unified, "perfect" race.

They saw Data as an obsolete being.  I guess they thought that blending organic and Tech would give them the best of both worlds.


Really though, more or less all Trek needs a dose of disbelief...Time travel in every season, Q, and need I even mention Star Trek V?  ::Shudders::

Careful mister...that sort of talk is bordering on sacrilege!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqreRufrkxM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqreRufrkxM)


(http://forum.heliguy.com/images/userpix/3667_inquisition_1.jpg)

:)

It's been scientifically proven that Star Trek V was awful.

Even bad Trek is better than no Trek...well...ok...STV was much like a STD...even if you get it taken care of, you will never forget...

(http://t.qkme.me/3q0grv.jpg)

Epic find there dude!

(http://www.memefive.com/memes/jehmz6w.jpg)

STV had a lot wrong with it.... no argument here. Still, there are some things I liked. The new A Bridge. The Yosemite bit. 'What does God want, with a starship?' And a bored Klingon blowing up American Space Trash. XD

Back to the Borg for a second, was anyone else freaked out by that scene in The Return that described their air and water recycling systems on the cube? Apparently they reuse all those limbs they chop off of people.... eeeeeeewwwwww.

I was always freaked out by the Borg, I still remember seeing Picard assimilated for the first time.  My mind was so far beyond blown and I thought "if they can get him, they can get anybody."

Another reason why the Borg are terrifying... They hold no animosity towards anyone. Indeed, if you pass through their territory and they do not perceive you as a threat or worthy of their attention, then they leave you alone. If they decide that you are to be assimilated, there is absolutely no malice behind it. They look at other species with the same clinical eye as a scientist studying a petri dish.

They are similar to the Reavers from Firefly/Serenity in that they don't chase you or fight you unless they have to, but their mere presence is enough to terrify even the hardiest and toughest warrior, and NOBODY goes near their territory unless it's absolutely necessary.

First Contact is still one of my favorite Trek films.  The special effects were great, the music had a creepy atmosphere, and the Borg makeup was fantastic.  The post-first contact Borg makeup is FAR better than the pre-first contact Borg design.

I concur. Matter of fact, (long story short here) I know a guy who's played Borg on TNG and Voyager, and even the actors vastly prefer the Post Contact versions of the costumes. He said not only were they more detailed and with better make up, but they went on faster too. I think he mentioned something about not having to have as many pieces of hardware glued to him after Contact. lol

And they had a legitimate reason for Worf being back on the Enterprise.  They rescued him from the Defiant.  Some of the others seemed to be stretching the logic about him being there, of course the galaxy in  Trek is a giant mass of odd coincidences anyways, so maybe it's just the way it worked.

I bought the complete Star Trek TOS Movie set on Blu-Ray recently and watched all of the films start to finish with the commentary. If you watch Star Trek 5, it has William Shatner and his daughter (Who was on the project). In the commentary he gives a lot of details about why the film turned out like it did, the fact that they literally had no time, and very little money to make the film is a strong argument to how a lot of the plot got lost. There were supposed to be a lot more special effects, creatures, etc that they basically didn't get to do because they ran out of money. Even back then, the film was not very well funded, and with a heavy amount of $$$ going to the cast lineup, which also included David Warner (If you all know your Trek, you know he was also a big name in Star Trek VI), it's easy to see how things got cut short.

One of Paramount's #1 problems, was not having a good feel for the future. Every time they made a new movie, they had to build new sets, new costumes, etc. If they would have had a little bit more forethought on the matter, they could have been smart and saved millions on all of those things.

I like the fact that in true Trek fashion, V discussed the unknown, or....if you prefer, the uncertain. There's a good story in that movie, it just winds up getting lost in poor planning, execution, and funding. The film was shot in less than 2 months, which is insane if you think about what all goes into a film.

Okay, that's my two cents :)

Trek V has it's moments, like the jailbreak scene and the camping scenes at the end and beginning.  I've always described it as "a great 15 minute movie that got crammed into two hours."  Interesting note* The actor who played the "Face of God" in Trek V is the same guy that played the Admiral in the TNG episodes "The Best of Both World's part 1 and 2".

Another interesting fact, Sybok was originally cast for Sean Connery, but he was still filming Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade! :)

I had heard that too.  Good thing for Connery.  Indie's dad was a much better character in a much better movie.  It would have been interesting to see what Star Trek V would have been like with him though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauuuhpSfRQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauuuhpSfRQ)


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Hey I've got a question for every Trekkie here...

If you could have a ship for ANY class, AND you could pick the name and registration. What would it be?
Mine would be an Intrepid-Class named the USS Thompson NCC-76031

Akira-class

NCC-86135

U.S.S. Warspite

That is a pretty bird!

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Yes, the Akira-class is my favorite after the Connie-Refit and the Defiant

The Defiant is a great ship, not because of the arms for me, but rather the size and crew compliment is more to my liking...but I also like the design...


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I like it not only for the size and crew complement, but for the aesthetic.

Most Starfleet designs are meant to be graceful and sweeping, reflecting the peaceful mission statement and the nobility of the Federation.

The Defiant is small, fast, and heavily armed, designed as a gut-punching warship with an aesthetic to match.

If Starfleet vessels were animals, the Defiant would be a wolverine.

Or a Honey Badger!

Why does everyone assume that a honey badger is more dangerous than a wolverine? Looking at the stats, a wolverine is on average bigger, heavier, and more powerful than a badger. Check out these comparables:

STATS

Wolverine

Height: 12-18" at shoulder
Length: 26 to 34 in
Weight: 25 to 70 lbs


Honey Badger

Height: 10-14" at shoulder
Length: 20 to 28 in
Weight: 15-35 lbs.

The wolverine has a more robust, compact build, packing up to twice the weight of a honey badger on a slightly larger frame. Iits jaws are powerful enough to crush bone.

The honey badger is gonna die very messily.

Constitution Class (Refit)

U.S.S. Enterprise

NCC-1701

Such a pretty ship! :)

This one shows promise, Rel...

One of my favorite videos... just wish the quality was better, but it is an older one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO8zj1KubQM

USS ARMAGEDDON NCC-1752

Constitution Class Refit IV

Or I'd be willing to go Refit V, but I'm not really sure if that's the proper designation. It's not the most known, but Connie's were pulled out of mothballs on rare occasion when the Federation faced imminent threat and couldn't field the necessary ships without dipping into the boneyard. One sailed at Wolf 359, and there was at least one in service as of the Dominion War. (laugh all you want, she's hard to find, but she's in there! I've seen her! lol) From what I understand, the Refit V was put in effect for the Dominion War and outfitted the Connie with Type X Phasers... but I can't quite recall. It's obscure info and I haven't looked it up in a looooong time.  :P

Based on canonical statements about the original Enterprise's phaser banks being able to take out the Eastern Seaboard of North America, it would appear that the Connies were DOWNGRADED as time went by.

Think I'll stick with the Enterprise... NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C, D, or E.

I agree with this.  Far and away my favorite Enterprise. 

I'm a Star Wars over Star Trek fan, with me loving Star Trek as well, (except for Deep space 9) just had an almost fight with my wifes best friend who was crapping all over Return of the Sith, while saying Into Darkness as the best JJ could do with the restrictions placed upon him.

Episode III is my favorite SW movie and the recent ST is the worst in my opinion so these were fighting words, the best of the PT wasn't as good as a bastardization of the greatest ST of all time. Well those were fighting words, and since she is my wife's best friend I poured stiff drink and went onto the pourch and bitched to my cats.

Ok you live in the Trek universe...and you are dating...without any details of the dates...tell us what species/races you dated.

I know a weird topic. 

You are human.

Would you date other humans out of familiarity or venture into the unknown?

Several of the Trek episodes dealt with romantic interaction between the various humanoids...would this intrigue or disinterest you?



For me I am a sucker for blue...so Andorians and Bolians, though the second has caustic potential  :)  Klingons would be a challenge.  Deltans would be worth the effort for sure, if one survives then knowledge is power.  And then the easy A...Orions...green with envy for sure.

I am quite open to colors and textures...in food and dating...in and out of context to the Trek universe, as for the real world I am happily married  :)

Though...if she were blue or green, that would be ok with me  :)

PS
She just said the same thing lol...the idea of being blue made her smile...as for green, she said "what shade of green...because some greens are (trails away as she walks into the other room talking to herself)"...comes back in "you mean like that green girl that Kirk was making out with in the newer Trek movie...yeah blue or green would work"  :)

first , you have not seen the honey badger everyone is talking abut... and second... honey badger dont care... 20lbs of pure hatred  with nicotine and beef jerky in its veins??.... yea honey badger wins in my book...

lol, im sure that Jev Moldara meant the Honey Badger from action figure therapy.... lol, plus, if a mongoose can tago with a king cobra... im sure it would be an interesting bout between a real Honey Badger and a Wolverine

Wolverines are BA for sure.  Honey badgers are tough as nails with a very tough skin, but they are outclassed in weight and muscle with a wolverine.

I was saying on addition...or a honey badger...not so much a honey badger is better or tougher.

:)


Either one would ruin anyone of our days if met face to face, on foot, without any weapons to work with  :D

The potential leaves one with this thought...

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i has a carrier in the game online ^.^ ill post pics by monday, getting ready t leave on a trip out of town to earn some CEU's... if anyone plays the online game, let me know, my toon is a lvl 50 Sci officer, i have not played in almost a year, and logged on the other day , i got some catchin up to do now lol, more goodies in the weapons and gear department ^.^

Any native of Risa.

Lol I thought of Risa for a moment then the thought of a whole planet operating like Burning Man 24/7/365 made me shake my head.

But I am sure it is a great place to visit!

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Oh, gods... Risa... Admiral Ackbar couldn't put Picard's situation in better words if he tried.

That being said...

I dunno... I guess I wouldn't say no to betazoids, vulcans, andorians or the like. Though I'm fairly sure I'd be able to tick off a vulcan through sheer annoyance. (I like ears... >.> )

Oh Manny...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HXz2oOlN0A#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HXz2oOlN0A#ws)

Very cool indeed, though it could have been 18-20min shorter...a lot of shooting without effect...still a great effort.

:D

Only real problems I had were:

1) It took several seconds of sustained fire from a capital ship sized weapon to destroy an unshielded Cylon fighter. Shoulda happened immediately.
2) The sounds were different than what is canon, especially for the BSG ships.
3) The USS Tadpole (not sure what the hell that was, so I gave it a name). What kind of ship was that supposed to be?!?!
4) The Enterprise-D and Enterprise-E fighting at the same time. WAT?


In any case, here's another:

Keep in mind that this video was created in 1999.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXnPG19npW8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXnPG19npW8#)

http://www.startrekcontinues.com/star-trek-continues-episode-1-pilgrim-of-eternity/#.Un2gGOKmYZk (http://www.startrekcontinues.com/star-trek-continues-episode-1-pilgrim-of-eternity/#.Un2gGOKmYZk)

Just going to leave this here!

:)

Here are a couple pretty girls!

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I love John Eaves designs...

Need help with the name of a ship.  Vote please!

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a. Kirin
b. Bellicose
c. Peregrine
d. Roc
e. Qilin
f.  Kraken
g. Other

I vote for "other" and suggest "Horizon"

What would the purpose of such a design be?

Cruiser, freighter, interceptor, explorer, science, what?

Also, Peregrine is already in use in canon Trek.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Peregrine_class (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Peregrine_class)

Lots of ships share names and class names.  Excelsior, Defiant, etc were names of specific ships as well as ship classes.

A glorious name actually, it was a Daedalus-class starship but was an old school ship...no reason to not reuse the name...I like it quite a bit.

Agreed, I thought the same initially but I am not a fanatic that froths at such things lol.  I like all the names suggested.

Trek love for the forgotten by most, Lt Arex the Edosian or Triexian (there is debate lol)...always a go to favorite of mine...good times good times...


(http://www.trekzone.de/mediapool/upload/tlw_p2_arex.jpg)

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Arex is win. 8)

That said, I'm going with the write in vote and suggesting a classic and honorable name:

USS HORNET

If that doesn't fly, let me know and I'll suggest something else instead. lol

....Manny? Hornets fly all the time....

*facepalm*

Good one.

Manny did you get the PM about trek?

Yes I did! Thanks Rel! I appreciate the inclusion. I'll have to get off a reply to you tonight, I don't remember all the specifics of it, but I'm sorely tempted to be insane and add it to my schedule. My usual Trek RP has been stalled for quite some time and I need an outlet. Been trying to ascertain whether or not my buddy that runs the place is serious about a reboot or not.

Come play, Manny.  I'm Chief Engineer! What could possibly go wrong?  ;D

Potential positions available...

Tactical Officer
Admin Officer
Logistics Officer
Ships Consular
Navigation Officer

Favorite Trek sentient alien races?

Say top 5 or 10 if you are all into it  :)

Klingons
Romulans
Borg
Obligatory Orion Space Babes  ;D
Andorians

I love the Borg.  Cyber zombies. ;D

*sigh* cant let you launch without one I guess. Looks like I'm your redshirt boys. Remember, we're more than just a meatshield! Please....

So MJ and I finished our first run through of the OS last night, we binge watched it after I showed her the Tribble episode about a week ago; her Shatner isn't very good.  :D

Should we now watch the films or watch the series again? The only one she's seen is STII:WoK.

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People you probably didn't know that guest stared on Star Trek: TNG

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Andorians
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Bolians
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Klingons
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Orions (see what I did there...took the high road I did!)
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Caitains
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Films. In Order, through Star Trek VI. Then Watch TNG. Then do Generations. Then DS9. Then Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis. Voyager may be thrown in concurrent with DS9 and the films, or watched between DS9 and the films, as you so choose. Enterprise... should be done last.


And in actuality, though I almost forgot (as so many indeed do forget), The Animated Series should come before the films. Yeah, have her watch that next. You'll both get a hoot out of it if nothing else. It's like Trek meets Scooby!  :D Oh, and it has more Mudd, and more Tribbles. Also plenty of Klingons. 8) (Yes, the original cast all do their own voices. Even the famous guest stars!)

Now I have a game plan.

I think they actually have the cartoon on Netflix.

The cartoon, while poorly animated, is actually pretty beast for story. A number of episodes were written by the actors, so they stay pretty well in character with some good humor in the funny moments, and it seems to me that they took the approach of 'lets do all the things we couldn't afford to make happen in the live action show.' So you get all sorts of goofy out there early sci fi stuff like the attack of the 50 foot Spock.

Yeah, I should stop talking before I give out all the spoilers. lol It's only a one season show.

New name suggestion for that Starship, Rel. If you'll forgive the comedic element:

USS STINGRAY

I'm still partial to Hornet, but I just thought I'd toss this out there too. :)

Another good one!

Though it has been named...Peregrine :)

I was afraid you'd say that. lol Oh well, the Starship Perry it is! ;D

Now why does that make me think TJ will sign on as the Medical Officer just for the sake of Scrubs jokes? lol

Any room for the Tactical Officer?

Already beat ya. ;) However... the Tac Officer has room for minions, I believe. Provided the powers that be will allow me to have minions. I hope I can have minions...

Peregrine is an awesome name.  It's Garm Bel Iblis's ship and he was a total badass.

*nods sagely* Garm Bel Iblis is recognized win. Corellian Cool Factor accepted. 8)

Medical Officer is taken lol.

I'm fine being a Minion!
What are we talking about..?

PM sent.

Assuming you're talking about the one you sent me, received and responded to. :)

Lol, it was for AK, but yes and appreciated!

Any word on your compatriot or the other thing (ranma 1/2)?

:)

I sent my partner in crime the info, and he was very excited! Waiting to hear back from him and see if he's on board or not. (don't worry, his character is not as... interesting, as mine ;) ) As for the other thing, the response I sent you earlier this morning has an idea on that which I hope will be to your liking. :)

Hmmm I do not think I got it, let me look again!

Edit, got it.


How about using the J'naii?

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/J%27naii (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/J%27naii)

If it didn't go through, let me know and I will resend. :)

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+1, those are good.

Here is a link to an album full of them if anyone is interested in more: http://imgur.com/a/0IkGI?gallery (http://imgur.com/a/0IkGI?gallery)

Why does everyone have pointy sideburns in TOS?

I realize I could probably google it, but figured I'd ask you all first.

1960's fashion.

Same reason the pants were bell bottomed, female boots were knee high, and women wore beehive hairdos.

Actually it's through the TOS movies as well... there are a few books that reference it as being part of the regulation hair cut for males.

From the production standpoint, it was a compromise between the makeup people and the actors, the actors didn't want "future" hairstyles, so they instead got triangle sideburns...

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Little known fact, Tribbles like moist warm places to nest...and they tend to bite when in nesting mode!

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