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Hi everyone!

There are a few threads around discussing what Emerald settings to use to create various blade colors. This one from Sciggs is particularly good:

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=17602.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=17602.0)

However, most of these are based on personal opinions and guess work, so I thought it might be useful to have a list of the actual settings that are set by the UltraSabers technicians when they send out an Emerald saber with a particular color preset. In other words, if you order an Emerald saber in Bane's Heart then you can load up the Obsidian Launcher and look at what numbers it's initially set to. That's what this list is about. Hopefully this will be useful to people who own an Emerald saber and want to get a preview of what a particular color would look like in a single color saber. The list was compiled from various posts where people have shared the presets that their saber had for a particular color. Thanks to everyone who posted this information to make this possible :)

Guardian Blue ----------> R000 G000 B255
Dark Violet Amethyst --> R047 G000 B255
Violet Amethyst --------> R122 G000 B255
Hot Pink ----------------> R255 G000 B190
Bane's Heart -----------> R255 G000 B030
Blazing Red -------------> R255 G000 B000
Pyrestone Orange ------> R255 G044 B000
Fire Orange -------------> R255 G119 B000
Sentinel Yellow ---------> R218 G255 B000
Consular Green --------> R000 G255 B000
Emerald Green ---------> R000 G255 B020
Sunriders Destiny ------> R??? G??? B???
Arctic Blue --------------> R??? G??? B???
Adegan Silver ----------> R153 G255 B177

IMPORTANT quote from Emory: "The fabricating technician just eyeballs it for any mixed colors. No values have ever been set internally and never will be."

This means that even the UltraSabers technicians are just guessing when they set the colors, so it will never be possible to come up with a perfectly accurate list of values, and I saw evidence of this where different people had slightly different values preset for the same color. In these cases I have listed the average of all the values for the color, and the differences were always quite small, so I think this is probably a pretty good representation of the colors. As you can see, I'm missing Sunriders Destiny and Arctic Blue, so if anyone orders an Emerald saber with these colors then please let me know what the presets are when you get it, or indeed for any color so I can factor them into the averages and increase the accuracy more!

Thanks,
Tom

Thanks for the list! This is going to help a lot!

For Arctic Blue, after messing with it, I got R:000, G: 255, B: 255. I'm trying to make Sunrider's Destiny now.

Also, it may just be my saber, but the Adegan Silver settings has a bit of a very mild pink glow to it. But like you said, there is no exact known setting. Easy way to get a white blade: Press the "pick color" button, and click on white. BAM there it is! This is an awesome driver!

Hi Blade - regarding the White setting - I don't have an Emerald w/ R-G-B (yet!), just a 2-chan -BUT - I do have some RGB ambient lighting installed on the mantle of my fireplace with a programmable remote.

I found the same thing with the Default White - it was a little pinkish.

So I tuned it a bit & saved the setting and it looks great now - simply dial down the Red just a little bit at a time until you get it where you want it. 

Worked great on my LED strip - hopefully the same principle applies to Emerald. (In theory - it should!)

Hope that helps!

(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/Lord_Canterbury/image.jpg1_zpsw9cdaw5z.jpg)

I just ordered a saber with Arctic Blue and Sunrider's Destiny.

Arctic Blue=G255, B255
Sunrider's Destiny=G255, B122

And with factory settings, it must be true that the technicians just eyeball it. I got some different values for the purples than you did with my ordered saber in DVA and VA.

RGB Adegan silver tends to run a little pink-ish, therefre I dial the red back slightly, and dial the blue up just a tas to giv the resulting white just a bit of blue-ish tint making it look brighter/hotter.

(this trick has been used in the automotive industry for years on the HID look-alike bulbs, as a higher color temperature tends to run towards the blue/purple/ultraviolet spectrum, and lower color temperatures tend to run yellowish to redish (down to Infra-red)

Still the beauty of an RGB emerald is the ability to fine tune any color to your personal prefference.

I don't seem to be able to modify the original post so here's the list again complete with percentage values for use in the new launcher software. Thanks guys for providing the missing colours :)

Blade Colour	|	Red -	Green -	Blue	|	Red -	Green -	Blue (%)
Guardian Blue	|			255	|			100
Dark Violet Amethyst	|	47		255	|	18		100
Violet Amethyst	|	122		255	|	48		100
Hot Pink	|	255		190	|	100		75
Bane's Heart	|	255		30	|	100		12
Blazing Red	|	255			|	100
Pyrestone Orange	|	255	44		|	100	17
Fire Orange	|	255	119		|	100	47
Sentinel Yellow	|	218	255		|	85	100
Consular Green	|		255		|		100
Emerald Green	|		255	16	|		100	6
Sunriders Destiny	|		255	122	|		100	48
Arctic Blue	|		255	255	|		100	100
Adegan Silver	|	153	255	177	|	60	100	69

I noticed differences in your list and Sciggs list, do you know whose is more accurate for the actual colours?

I don't think there is such a thing as an exactly "accurate" setting for the colors.

My understanding is when the US techs set your blade when you order, they just "eyeball" the color.  There is no official US setting list.

Not to mention - not that they vary massively - but the exact hue of an LED will vary from bin to bin from the manufacturer.

Which means, for example, a Blue LED from any given manufacturer will fall within an acceptable range for that color's wavelength, meaning one Blue might be slightly lighter or darker than another.

If you look up a manufacturer like Luxeon, you'll see those wavelengths depicted for each product with the range.

It's not a massive difference, but it could come into play on the settings from saber to saber.

Basically - I always suggest just playing with it until you are happy with the hue rather than worrying about "official" settings.  :)

Okay thank you. I will play with it until I am happy. That sounds like part of the fun of Emerald.

Definitely!  Pretty much all the colors I use on my Emerald saber - a RGBA Dark War Glaive - never match the settings on threads like this.

Which is NOT to say this thread doesn't provide tremendous value, just that my eyes have different preferences for the shades suggested here.

That's the great thing of Emerald, everyone is different and everyone can get the exact colour they want!

I absolutely agree with this. If your goal is simply to find a good color for your Emerald saber then I would also advise that you ignore all of these lists and just play around until you find a color that looks good to you, which is the only thing that really matters :)

In my opinion, the real value of knowing these "official" settings (and the reason I compiled the list in the first place) is for people who already own an Emerald saber, and are now planning to buy a single color saber, and want to use their Emerald saber to get a feel for what each of the standard colors looks like in real life, which might help them to choose between them.

I see. That is a very good idea that I'm sure will be appreciated. Thanks and have a point :).

TY for this post. I've played a lot with LEDs and I's like to be a productive member so I's like to add that you really do have to kind of eyeball things out. I'm willing to bet what ever differences the techs get are minor at best. I also don't know if they tune the colors with a blade on either and all of that factors in to what you are going to see. If you have any color combo set in the driver, the end result will vary depending on the filter you view it through or surface you project on. Our surface and filter is the blade. So if the techs are setting the color per customer, per selected color, per selected blade, then that easily explains the differences in the values we are seeing. Also everyone perceives light a little differently. For example when a color is mixed with blue and green I tend to see the blue more while others see the green more. That's why colors like aqua are so hard to pin down. (It's also why most companies stick to primary colors for branding and logos.)

 I just received my 1st saber today and went all in with emerald and obsidian V4. I went with the UEH and went PYO for factory preset. It looks good to me but I can tell that thick white blade is absorbing a good amount of light. Especially compared to the plug.  My batteries are charging now and I plan on playing with it a lot and I want to make a set of the "Default" colors mixed for each blade I own. And while I only own the one blade now, I plan on getting a regular HG within the next few months. So thanks again for this post. This info will be a great starting point. +1 to you for starting this post. (I'm not sure if my points count yet but, I at least wanted to make the gesture.)

My DVA for Emerald as shipped by US was set to B: 100%, R: 13.7%

My understanding is that the technicians basically eye ball the color when they create it and therefore some variations in the settings.  Most users of the Emerald driver will tweak their own preferences and even invent a new hue.  Anyway have fun and share your blade color creations.   :)

That's my understanding too.  But whoever set up my saber sent me a color that I absolutely love.  It's really a fantastic purple, and very reminiscent of what I think of when I think of a fluorescent black light tube.

Well then lucky you and store those settings.  Would really like to see a photo if the color translates accurately.   :D

The first thing I did when I plugged in and fired up the launcher was note down the settings.   ;D

When I get the twin of this saber in the next couple weeks, to finish off the Dark Menace staff, it'll be fun to see if it comes with the same settings for DVA.

A Dark Menace staff in DVA! That's gonna look sweet!

Yes, yes it does.

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/IMG_0589_zpscqy5zfwr.jpg)
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/IMG_0593_zps1z4vaqiq.jpg)
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k83/shade_1313/IMG_0591_zpsysc82eu4.jpg)

 :D

This is awesome, but where can I put these color codes in using this new V4 launcher, all it gives me for options are percentages....

nice i just got my first saber... may the force be with you...

Thanks, Tom!  I was actually going to use Sciggs' list and do the math conversions tonight.  Now I don't have to.  Point!

This is PERFECT! I've been looking for a list like this!

I know this might be a little bit late - but just in case you or anyone else has use for it

Just divide the value by 255 and multiply by 100. So 44 would be (44/255)*100 = 17.3

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That looks awesome - could I ask what the colour settings are?

Also way late thanking for all the work compiling the original list and subsequent updates.  What a great baseline to customize from.

I absolutely agree that it's down to one's preference of how comfortable they are with the settings of the hue. This list, as well as Sciggs', serve a great deal as baseline. Thanks to both for the effort!

When configuring the Emerald LED Driver, please also take into consideration that these factors may affect your decision:
1) Lighting of the room
2) Blade used (whether it's UltraEdge or non-UltraEdge, Mid-Grade or Heavy Grade)
3) Camera quality and the mode used (affecting how it looks on photo)
4) 2nd and 3rd opinions

You can also click on the color in the launcher then click on the button labeled "Easy" to switch to advanced mode and get the color numbers in stead of percentages. 

Arctic Blue is 0,255,255?

That's actually Cyan, lol

http://www.perbang.dk/rgb/00FFFF/