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Title: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on June 25, 2015, 11:41:30 AM
Hey guys, I need help with wiring a project together. This is going to be practice for a completely custom built saber that I'm going to buy emerald and obsidian guts for, but I'm using a 6 pin buck puck, an illuminated momentary switch, and a white LED. However, I can't find a diagram that doesn't include a sound board.


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Groovidad on June 25, 2015, 04:48:49 PM
Hey guys, I need help with wiring a project together. This is going to be practice for a completely custom built saber that I'm going to buy emerald and obsidian guts for, but I'm using a 6 pin buck puck, an illuminated momentary switch, and a white LED. However, I can't find a diagram that doesn't include a sound board.


This is the thread with wiring diagrams:  http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=8667.0

On the Emerald board, I don't think you can buy that from US, UNLESS you have worked out a "deal" with Emory(?)  It's not a product they sell under "Build Your Own Saber".  If you can get one, sweet!  Good luck! :)
 


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Racona Nova on June 25, 2015, 08:40:17 PM
Without a sound board you can't use a momentary switch. You have to get a latching switch instead.

What power source do you want to use? NiMH rechargeables or Li-Ion setup?

Wiring it without a sound board is not that difficult, you can get the correct wiring from the diagrams above - with some modifications, of course ;) However, I can't tell you exactly how you have to modify it (haven't done a DIY project yet and very little knowledge about electronic stuff)...maybe a DIY expert can help you better :-\


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on June 28, 2015, 10:49:25 AM
Ok, this may be another stupid question. I have the illuminated latching switch and a 6 pin buck puck. can the buck puck act as a resistor for both the switch and LED?


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Racona Nova on June 28, 2015, 04:53:06 PM
No, you always need a separate resistor for the switch LED, even with a BuckPuck. The forward voltages and currents of the switch and main LEDs are just too different.


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 08, 2015, 09:21:46 AM
Ok, new question, same topic. I Want to upgrade my stunt saber to have an illuminated switch. I have all the parts, however, I cannot find a wiring schematic that only uses a resistor and no buck puck. Can anyone help?


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: JediXIX on July 08, 2015, 02:07:26 PM
Hi Kal-El_Kenobi1138, I've done quite a few now, I do things a little different from my first, but this link was my first and may help you a bit http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=22628.msg348595#msg348595

As you can see in one of the pics I just put the main LED resistor in the wires leading to the LED module instead of using a Buckpuck..... I found this wiring diagram helpful, but of course it shows a Buckpuck.....

(http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah119/JediXIX/DEC160E5-FFBE-4E17-886A-84614024591A.png_zpsas8bwomu.jpeg) (http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/JediXIX/media/DEC160E5-FFBE-4E17-886A-84614024591A.png_zpsas8bwomu.jpeg.html)

Cheers  :)


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 08, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
so would i just put the switch resistor before the positive end on the switch (between it and the battery)?


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: JediXIX on July 08, 2015, 02:52:57 PM
For the switch LED resistor, it goes between the V-Out (+) on the m/l board and the (+) terminal for the LED on the switch.....


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 08, 2015, 03:20:16 PM
This is just a stunt saber without sound, so I don't have a sound board and its latching, not momentary.


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Sarich Belmont on July 08, 2015, 04:47:19 PM
The board pictured in the diagram isn't a soundboard. It's a board that allows you to use a momentary switch as though it were a latching switch.


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: JediXIX on July 09, 2015, 05:00:12 AM
This is just a stunt saber without sound, so I don't have a sound board and its latching, not momentary.

Ok.... I've been putting momentary av's into my stunt sabers using a m/l converter..... sorry bout that

so would i just put the switch resistor before the positive end on the switch (between it and the battery)?

I don't have a clear diagram, only some scribbled notes, lol, but..... a latching illuminated av switch has 5 pins, C1, NO1, NC1, LED+, LED-, and the switch LED resistor would go between a wire looped from NO1 to LED+ on the switch, and the main LED resistor would go between a wire from NO1 and the + on the LED module..... hope that helps  :)


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 09, 2015, 07:36:29 AM
I think so. Thank you.


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 09, 2015, 10:46:12 AM
Ok, So if I'm understanding this correctly, this is how it's supposed to look right. with the yellow dots being the soldering points on the switch.

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag343/levonfuhr/kalswiring_zps2dv77nra.jpg~original) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/levonfuhr/media/kalswiring_zps2dv77nra.jpg.html)


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Racona Nova on July 09, 2015, 03:24:12 PM
I think your current connection leading from the main LED to the LED (-) of the switch has to go to the NO1 terminal of the switch instead. The resistor for the switch has to be moved between the NO1 and the LED (+) of the switch. And you also need a connection from the negative coming from the battery pack to the LED (-) of the switch. I'm no expert, but I'm quite sure that it should work after you add/change these connections.


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 09, 2015, 05:34:39 PM
I think what you just described actually works with a buck puck, but I'm no expert. It just seems absolutely convoluted


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Racona Nova on July 09, 2015, 05:49:29 PM
Yeah, it's complicated even with the "simple" stunt setups ;)


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: JediXIX on July 10, 2015, 02:10:34 AM
I think your current connection leading from the main LED to the LED (-) of the switch has to go to the NO1 terminal of the switch instead. The resistor for the switch has to be moved between the NO1 and the LED (+) of the switch. And you also need a connection from the negative coming from the battery pack to the LED (-) of the switch. I'm no expert, but I'm quite sure that it should work after you add/change these connections.

Yep Racona, spot on.......  +1 :)

I think what you just described actually works with a buck puck, but I'm no expert. It just seems absolutely convoluted

Any chance you could re-do your diagram with those changes Kal-El? Would be great for future reference for others wanting a latching av switch too.....  +1 :)


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: mister_maul on July 10, 2015, 03:40:41 AM
Here's a diagram I used in a stunt saber build with a latching illuminated av switch and a buckpuck. It's been working great for me so far. Just make sure to heatshrink all exposed connections.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/09/adbd43c9916e0f76e521e70686c2a660.jpg)


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Kal-El_Kenobi1138 on July 10, 2015, 10:34:59 AM
Screw it, I'm buying the buck puck from ultrsabers since they have it and the other guys don't


Title: Re: wiring diagram help
Post by: Darth Money on August 09, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
does anyone have a diagram on wiring a stunt saber with a buck puck and a regular latching switch