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Title: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 16, 2015, 12:05:39 AM
Here's my Shock review.

"There are many like it, but this one is mine..."
 8)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3sY1dj8NnX_A45pvjHXwSHnhkQLgg_k2c2Z-gyystQ=w1274-h955-no)

-----Timing/Turnaround-----
Ultrasabers has a redonkulous turnaround time.

In less than 24 hours from my order, it was out the door and on its way. It only took 2 days to reach my city here in the "Great White North".

Unfortunately for me, FedEx here is...well, absolute poodoo. Had I not gotten an e-mail notification, I'd have never known my parcel arrived.

No memos or post-its. Parcel also didn't arrive anywhere near the estimated time (which was 5pm). FedEx apparently attempted drop-off at 11am on a weekday, which hurts the part of my brain that enjoys logic.
 ::)

I ended up having to wait the weekend, and take an epic journey into the fiery peaks of Mordor (the industrial sector, which is in the middle of nowhere), to collect my package.

(I think I even passed some midget named "Frodo" on his way there too. He was trying to return some jewelry...or something...)
 :D

None of this is Ultrasabers' fault - but from my research, FedEx isn't terribly great in my province.
 :(


-----Packing------
Packed up snug-as-a-bug.

Each individual piece was bubble-wrapped, then wrapped again in another bubble wrap cocoon, and tightly packed in a narrow cardboard box - seams all sealed up with tape.


-----Finish-----
The Shock comes in several finishes - polished chrome, Dark (black with chrome cutouts), and Limited Edition (chrome with gold-ish anodized cutouts).

I went with the polished chrome, and I think it looks exceptional. Clean and sleek. And what's even nicer - is that the metal doesn't seem to get fingerprinty from being handled. The pictures on the site do not do justice to how great it looks. Though, the pommel is slightly different than the one pictured on the site.

With a silver anti-vandal switch, it looks (and feels) even better.

Absolutely top-notch machining and polishing.
 :o


-----Details-----
A simple, yet elegant design (which appeals to me, personally), that focuses on numerous grooves - both intruding, and extruding outwards. This gives the 'saber a bit of traction in the hand, but without it feeling terribly rough.

A covertec knob comes standard, located on the right-side of the hilt - which I think is a bit problematic. It doesn't get in the way, but it does pose a few problems depending on which handedness you are.

In my own opinion, with any 'saber design, symmetry must dictate the positioning of the belt ring or covertec hanger.

In the Shock's current position, a left-handed user has best access to the activation button when cross-drawing - with a right-handed user having to use their index finger (as opposed to their thumb) to hit the activation button.

If the knob were placed on the completely opposite side of the activation button (90 degrees from where it is by default) - neither right, nor left-handed users would have to worry about how they'd have to adjust the drawing of the lightsaber based on where it is.

My way, no one gets a perfect draw - but no one is favored, either.

I consider this a bit of a design flaw.
 :-\

-----Light and Sound-----

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/k9kA5qwJFYLq7H5UVViHnsXR2duDmgj7ZS3n6rksrw=w717-h955-no)

I got the Emerald RGBW feature and tested with a standard blade, and Ultrablade. Depending on the color chosen, the blade is quite bright, capable of illuminating a room with either blade-type. Even darker colors are vibrant and strong.

Personally, I recommend the Ultrablade. Though with both types, there is a small area at the tip that doesn't possess the film to diffuse/reflect the light there.

Could a hollowed tip and a clouded paint or glue application possibly solve this?
 ???

Sound volume is quite loud, And I'm sure my neighbors might soon develop some issues with me swinging it around un-muted.

(Thankfully, I have the blinds drawn so no one can see that I'm sometimes doing it in my underpants. Seriously, don't imagine that.)
 ;)

I particularly like the default Obsidian soundfont - but find the others a bit lackluster. Some default fonts feel very out of place.


-----Handling-----
Here's where I might come off a bit harsh on the Shock - because I happen to find it rather problematic to wield.

If you happen to be Wookiee-sized, this might not be as much of an issue for you - but I find many MHS parts-compatible 'sabers to be a bit over-sized - both in length, and diameter.

I'm of average height (6') and overall build, And I find this 'saber to be too large for my hands. I can literally close 4 widths of my hands from the lip of the emitter, down the body, to the pommel.

That's at least 1.5 (maybe closer to 1.75) inches too long, in my opinion.

(Or I might have to change my name to "Babyhands O'Herlihy".)
 :P

Given the shape of the emitter, The choke point is about 3 inches below the edge of the emitter. After experimenting with a few different MHS emitters I had lying around, I discovered that (for me, at least) my perfect balance point is about 1.5 inches up from where the default machined one is on the upper body.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7zo0pcZwy0nipPYtKtAHMCZkIIGnx3_6_sPckShzLQ=w717-h955-no)

In that spot, any awkwardness/sluggishness in handling goes away. But given the bulbous shape of the default emitter - that "sweet spot" can't really be utilized.

Using 2 hands seems to work well enough. But even then, the 'saber just doesn't respond with the balance and agility you might expect.


-----Closing Thoughts-----

I think it might make for a great prop for a costume, or art piece on a shelf or mantel.

As for duelling, I would encourage against it.

Mostly because it's a bit ungainly, and too gorgeous to want to bash it around.

If you have daintier hands I'd highly recommend the Initiates and/or Apprentices. They fit my hands ridiculously well, and have closer to proper lightsaber proportions.


-----Final Grade-----

7/10

Pros:
-Amazing turnaround and delivery time.
-Exceptional detailing and finish.
-Solid construction.
-Good sound quality.
-Good blade brightness.

Cons:
-Much too large for smaller hands.
-Shape of emitter can make handling awkward.
-Covertec placement not ideal for everyone.
-Out of the several default sound fonts, only the Obsidian one seems to "fit".


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Groovidad on July 16, 2015, 12:52:07 AM
Brother, a very informative and technical review!  I appreciate your honesty on this saber!  I found that when I got the Chosen One, I too had issues with the width of the hilt and placement of the covertech, as well as the lever on the activation box.  I had to share it.  So, your candor is much appreciated not only by myself but, many here.  Beautiful hilt and really dig the finish you chose!  Point to you for an exceptional and honest review!


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 16, 2015, 01:04:58 AM
Brother, a very informative and technical review!  I appreciate your honesty on this saber!  I found that when I got the Chosen One, I too had issues with the width of the hilt and placement of the covertech, as well as the lever on the activation box.  I had to share it.  So, your candor is much appreciated not only by myself but, many here.  Beautiful hilt and really dig the finish you chose!  Point to you for an exceptional and honest review!

I was a bit worried that my review might come off too negative.

It's a great 'saber, I just don't feel it's really designed for duelling. It's more like a work of art.
 ;)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Groovidad on July 16, 2015, 01:16:10 AM
I was a bit worried that my review might come off too negative.

It's a great 'saber, I just don't feel it's really designed for duelling. It's more like a work of art.
 ;)


You are absolutley right!  Some of the sabers are better suited for dueling, spinning, trick movements.....others are more appropriate for show and display, IMHO.  I have a Guardian and really, I feel that saber can swing both ways: dueling and admiring.  Yet, the Chosen One and Graflex are a bit more "difficult" to manage based upon their component makeup and placement.  No matter what, YOU will always love YOUR sabers!  No one can tell you any differently.  The good thing from honest reviews is that it should give folks pause to think about a purchase.  Sabers are not "cheap", by no means, unless you go for grab bags and stunts.  Personally, having a mix is a great way to maintain the appreciation of this genre.  Enjoy your saber, brother!  It is beautiful! ;D


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Dauntless Seven on July 16, 2015, 01:29:05 AM
Hi.  Interesting review.  I am 5'3" with medium sized ladies hands.  Own a Shock LE and dark Shock in the longer RGB with Obs.  I find the tubular style of the body noticeably wider when compared to other sabers that have obvious choke points.  However the lighter weight of the saber compensates for this and I have no hand placement or grip problems.  Referring to the regular Shock only.  The RGB length and four buttons has been a challenge to find a comfortable fit.  As a leftie, my choice for the covertec wheel would be underneath near pommel or on the right side.  Presently the wheel has been removed.  I rarely single hand grip any saber that high up but many others do.

The Manticore is far more emitter heavy.  The Shock pommel is one of the longest and widest.  You might want to try a low Manticore or an Overlord to shorten the length.  I wouldn't go too light with the pommel weight.  0 rings are quite helpful for gripping and also are an easy attractive modification.  Hopefully you will be able to use this saber much more, as it really is a classy dependable one and a solid dueler as shared by multiple members.  Not the best choice for spinning.

Thanks for sharing your opinions and observations.  Hopefully you will find some sound fonts that you like better.  Point earned.  :)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 16, 2015, 01:40:49 AM
Quote from: Dauntless Seven
Hi.  Interesting review.

I'd like to think I'm an interesting person. I also smell nice, too!
 :D

Quote from: Dauntless Seven
The Shock pommel is one of the longest and widest.  You might want to try a low Manticore or an Overlord to shorten the length.  I wouldn't go too light with the pommel weight.  0 rings are quite helpful for gripping and also are an easy attractive modification.  Hopefully you will be able to use this saber much more, as it really is a classy dependable one and a solid dueler as shared by multiple members.  Not the best choice for spinning.

I've been looking for a lower pommel, haven't quite decided yet. Decided against O-rings, as it makes the Shock less...ostentatious.

I like shiny things.
 :D

Unfortunately, I think my problem is that I like to spin...and the design isn't very conducive to that.
 :'(

Quote from: Dauntless Seven
Thanks for sharing your opinions and observations.  Hopefully you will find some sound fonts that you like better.  Point earned.  :)

I've been eyeing several at Saberfont.com, but haven't taken a moment to ask anyone here if those fonts can work with the Obsidian soundboard.

Don't want to be a naughty poster...and post in the wrong place, or re-post an old question.
 ;)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Dauntless Seven on July 16, 2015, 01:56:19 AM
Too late... you are naughty, but forgiven cus' you smell so good and like shiny stuff.  ;)

I'm not the one to answer about downloading sound fonts.  I think that you can use from that site and any other compatible fonts for the Obs.  I'm sure you will get multiple replies and suggestions.  Would be helpful to know what you were wanting for your Shock.  There are a few members that have helped and created specific fonts for others.  :D


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 16, 2015, 02:05:01 AM
Quote from: Dauntless Seven
Too late... you are naughty, but forgiven cus' you smell so good and like shiny stuff.  ;)

My pheromones are so powerful, even the interwebs can't help but transmit them!!
 ;D

Quote from: Dauntless Seven
I'm not the one to answer about downloading sound fonts.  I think that you can use from that site and any other compatible fonts for the Obs.  I'm sure you will get multiple replies and suggestions.  Would be helpful to know what you were wanting for your Shock.  There are a few members that have helped and created specific fonts for others.  :D

Well, I planned on just grabbing several of the fonts from one specific vendor that I like.

I don't generally go for custom stuff, I like themes. So themes based on Luke (ANH, ESB, and RotJ), Vader, Maul, and Mace Windu. Something that can give a bit of personality to the 'saber, are what I've been looking for...
 :)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: hazard502 on July 16, 2015, 02:58:52 AM
Superb review.  And smelling nice will always take you far in life, especially in the outer rim.  We all know you can taste the stink on some of those folks!

I absolutely love the ShockLE I have, and I like the all silver one even more.  I agree with you on looks, it really captures sleek, simple beauty!

I don't hesitate to take it up to duel, but I am taller and have slightly larger hands, and it fills the palms nicely.  There's definitely stronger duellers out there as you suggested.  But this one you can pick up and play with for a while if you want. 

A thoughtful review like this helps people wrap their head around how best to spend their hard earned dollars - well done.

+1


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Groovidad on July 16, 2015, 04:12:45 AM
 ::)LOL!  I just noticed someone's been taking Dark Points from me.  Well, I'm not in this for Popularity. That's High School stuff!  To those that need to feel good about it, MTFBWYA!   :)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 16, 2015, 04:23:21 AM
Quote from: hazard502
  There's definitely stronger duellers out there as you suggested.  But this one you can pick up and play with for a while if you want. 

Again, I wonder if I may have been a bit too harsh on my baby. I think in any other reviews, I may consider adding thought into the style best associated with the 'saber being reviewed.

Shock isn't for spinning flourishes, or fancy moves - She cuts right through opposition, or sweeps it aside.
 :)

Quote from: Groovidad
::) LOL!  I just noticed someone's been taking Dark Points from me.  Well, I'm not in this for Popularity. That's High School stuff!  To those that need to feel good about it, MTFBWYA!   :)

Buhhh?
 ???


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Prowl 1701 on July 16, 2015, 05:56:50 AM
Excellent review.  It gave an honest account of your opinion of the saber and the buying/shipping process.  You pointed out what you considered to be the pros and cons of the hilt, seeing an honest review is always welcome.  I also have an issue with covertec wheel placement at times and have had to send sabers back for placement modifications.  The pics are great and show how much better the hilt looks than just the older pics US uses on their site (the newer pommel looks much better.)  You review would be very helpful to anyone considering a shock purchase.

+1


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Groovidad on July 16, 2015, 06:43:50 AM
Excellent review.  It gave an honest account of your opinion of the saber and the buying/shipping process.  You pointed out what you considered to be the pros and cons of the hilt, seeing an honest review is always welcome.  I also have an issue with covertec wheel placement at times and have had to send sabers back for placement modifications.  The pics are great and show how much better the hilt looks than just the older pics US uses on their site (the newer pommel looks much better.)  You review would be very helpful to anyone considering a shock purchase.

+1

Prowl, I couldn't agree more!  Giving a thorough, first hand experience is worth more than any advertisement or sales ad.  That said, US does their best to give their patrons the best depiction available at their disposal.  There is no doubt that everyone is different and everyone may have a varied perspective.  Ideally, these reviews help everyone in their quest to make the most informed decision in their purchase.  I may not like everything about a saber I purchase but, it is mine and I will make it work for me.  I know I'm preaching to the choir yet, we all share a common bond:  our love of the SW universe and our love of light sabers!  MTFBWYA!


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Inzane on July 16, 2015, 06:50:34 AM
I also have an issue with covertec wheel placement at times and have had to send sabers back for placement modifications.

You sir need to invest in a drill and a tap & die set.    :P ;)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Groovidad on July 16, 2015, 06:55:50 AM
You sir need to invest in a drill and a tap & die set.    :P ;)

Well, he could just remove the covertech and replace the screw(?). I personally have no need for a covertech as I don't engage in COSPLAY or the such.  Yet, those that do will want the ability to hang their hilt on their costume.  Respect!  Truthfully, I have no need for it, IMO.


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Prowl 1701 on July 16, 2015, 06:57:07 AM
You sir need to invest in a drill and a tap & die set.    :P ;)

And the eye/hand coordination to use them without ruining the hilt. :P


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: James Casey on July 16, 2015, 10:13:42 AM
A very detailed and useful review, sithstar. Always good to read :)

On the placement of the covertec, I think it's one of those things that differs for everyone. I like mine exactly where it is on the Shock because it's out of the way of my dominant right hand for single hand use. For two-handed wielding I adjust my grip slightly so my right thumb sits on/near the activation switch, which puts the covertec wheel right up against my left fingertips - for me, a really comfortable arrangement. For a left-hander (like my wife and daughter) the opposite arrangement probably would work better - although they both have small hands, so it may not even be something they'd notice.

However, I recognise that for those who carry a 'sabre around on their belt a lot, a different setup may suit better. I have the wheel at 6 o'clock from the button on a couple of my hilts (it's the standard placing on the Consular, for example) and it's nice and symmetrical there, but I do find it gets in the way of my left hand when duelling.

I'm not sure there's necessarily a single right place that's suit everyone. I've seen a few with the wheel on the emitter, but that really only works with the simpler hilts like the Aeons. Even then, you have to work around the retention screw(s) so you can take the blade out.

As has been noted, it's easy enough to pop the wheel off if you're going to be duelling/spinning for an extended period - but not something that's entirely practical at a con or whatever.

Glad you liked your Shock in the main, though. As for the thickness issue, I recommend that you avoid the Guardian and Mantis in future - both are even chunkier than the Shock. The Manticore is comparable. For slimmer hilts, the v2 Aeon/Dominix, the Catalysts, the Sentinels and the Prophecies are all favourites because they have noticeable choke points and/or are more slender hilts.


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Inzane on July 16, 2015, 05:28:35 PM
And the eye/hand coordination to use them without ruining the hilt. :P

Touché.   :D  I know I'd certainly feel better if I had a drill press (I don't) vs just a hand drill.   But careful use including a vise and a bit guide (controls depth) and it shouldn't be too bad.   And then tapping the threads is the easy part.

However if you don't have the tools that can add up trying to acquire them.  I just cringed at the thought of all those extra shipping charges back and forth.   (But I am north of the border)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Inzane on July 16, 2015, 05:29:42 PM
Well, he could just remove the covertech and replace the screw(?). I personally have no need for a covertech as I don't engage in COSPLAY or the such.  Yet, those that do will want the ability to hang their hilt on their costume.  Respect!  Truthfully, I have no need for it, IMO.

Brother, to each his own! 

Sorry, couldn't resist.   ;D


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Groovidad on July 16, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Brother, to each his own! 

Sorry, couldn't resist.   ;D

LOL!  INDEED!  Point to you for bringing a smile! ;D


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Inzane on July 16, 2015, 06:10:59 PM
LOL!  INDEED!  Point to you for bringing a smile! ;D

And a dark side point to you good sir!


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 16, 2015, 11:36:54 PM
Awwww...

Forum bromance.
 ;)

 ;D

I totally don't have the skills to tap a something-something, or smurf a whatchamacallit.

But I do think I might look into moving that covertec knob, regardless - and replace it with some other type of knob or disc...similar to a killkey.


*thoughtful finger steeplies*


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: JediXIX on July 17, 2015, 03:43:25 AM
Great review Sithstar, and points for a silly sense of humour  :P

I've never really rated the Shock, even with all its praise, but I like your first pic, and you may have just "turned" me, lol..... cheers man  :)


Title: Re: Shock Review
Post by: Sithstar on July 17, 2015, 04:46:45 AM
Quote from: JediXIX
Great review Sithstar, and points for a silly sense of humour  :P

I've never really rated the Shock, even with all its praise, but I like your first pic, and you may have just "turned" me, lol..... cheers man  :)

I'm a silly-billy!
 ;D


The Shock is well put together, and looks great. Just be mindful of how you're going to be wielding it. It's not really made for fancy twirlies - more for 2-handed choppies. If that's your bag, then...

"you don't need any further encouragement to get it".

*Jedi finger waggles*

 ;)