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Hello all,

I was inspired by some of the awesome blade plugs people had made, but I felt the kyber crystal should be free floating so I decided to try and see if I could make one . So far my experiment has failed, but I am hopeful when the Silicone cures fully it will go clear like it did in my out of tube test.. But this is 48 hours later and its only a small amount clearer, my guess is the top layer cured and that created a protected layer that will force it to take longer to cure

This is the current result I promise all 3 of these have crystals in them :P
(https://i.imgur.com/vENBtye.jpg)

This is the result I actually want but surrounded with a clear liquid
(https://i.imgur.com/IaeURE5.jpg)

I plan on trying a few more ways but ran out of crafting budget till next week, I will keep you all updated with progress if your interested.

Great experiments, Madness.  I wonder if you can use some type of gel for the liquid to suspend the crystal? Keep us updated please.

How about clear water beads?

https://www.amazon.com/Candles-Wedding-Centerpiece-Decoration-Education/dp/B0134SQN4G/ref=asc_df_B0134SQN4G/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=191991579757&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=7241313999253555529&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027202&hvtargid=pla-355999439007&psc=1

Not a bad idea but I don't want to see the ball shapes at all, I want it to look free floating with maybe some colored smoke type effect. I have a buddy who has a an awesome workshop with more toys than me, I am going to try the stuff they make silicone molds out of and his pressure pot. But that won't happen for a few weeks, I have another idea using a casting resin but I am afraid without a pressure pot it will just be bubble filled :P

Hi.  I'd do a Search on this one perhaps under custom blade plugs.  Someone once posted a thread about his blade plugs.  Objects such as crystals were placed into a clear hardening liquid acrylic ?  Looked good even with some visible air bubbles.  The process was involved with multiple layers that needed to set.  The plugs required some dremel modification and trimming.  :)

Nice I will hunt for it, that is one of the things I was going to try next would love to know the pitfalls before I dive in :P

I’m not sure if it’ll work, but there’s also Epoxy Resin as well.

Yeah I am looking into a few resins to see what one will get me that crystal clear water look I want. points for you! thanks sir!

I have gone through about 10 pages of blade plug related threads and nothing related to the crystal blade plug or clear acrylic if anyone has this bookmarked please post. I am still looking but not hopeful :P

Back at you. Thanks for doing this, I too am interested in the end result.  Will also research on my end as well and will post it if I find it.

Edit:  I found this, thus far:   http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=2783.msg195907#msg195907

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=37500.0

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=12616.0

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=18569.0

I can't remember the name of the product, but I remember seeing table tops that were made by pouring a clear resin into a box filled with stuff.  The result was a smooth surface with all kinds of neat 3D stuff "in" the table. 

The silicone may yet cure out, though. 

There is a water clear product by Smooth-On called Encapso that would be ideal.
It's so clear it looks like there is nothing holding the object up.
https://www.smooth-on.com/product-line/encapso/

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=18569.msg339215#msg339215



It’s Epoxy

http://www.bestbartopepoxy.com/table-top-epoxy/?gclid=CjwKCAjwj4zaBRABEiwA0xwsP9I_9zxyVz6jGaMyfpZt2fOW0E514R-Ga_bl2ubY4GwwNGZdT30ydxoCjT4QAvD_BwE

Updated photos still not clear but kinda cool either way. And it's still curing, my buddy got his supplies today so we are running a test with resin tonight.

(http://imgur.com/EJ1Glry.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/YfLYsT6.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/K20fOcr.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/96fJnPw.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/fadbWwj.jpg)

Keep up the good work, Madness!

Did a new one last night using Easy cast, its a 1x1 pour. I used Playdough to close the bottom that did not work well and it's bubble crazy but getting closer. We are trying in a pressure pot today will post results.

(https://i.imgur.com/52I9jxE.jpg)

Madness, i love your work!  Pm'd you!

Thank's man, and I used https://www.amazon.com/Environmental-Technology-32-Ounce-Casting-Craft/dp/B0018N7M9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531493032&sr=8-1&keywords=easycast was super easy to work with.. I learned that you pour first then set your crystal in place. I did a two part pour, the first set the crystal where I wanted it the second finished it up. There is no line doing it this way. I am going to try again tonight but will be using a heat gun to pop the bubbles and speed up curing hopefully :P Also I do other prop work if you guys are interested in watching me fail at making stuff with my buddy it can be seen here https://www.facebook.com/CRcosplayandprops/

Thanks brother!  I've ordered it and can't wait to toy around with it.  I'm already subbed to your Facebook page and I'm pretty impressed with the contents on there.  I've the artwork submitted by your great artists!  Point for you!

Finally got results we can be happy with, the placement is not perfect and still a few things to mess with but it works. The concept is now real, next steps get a mold created so we can pour to size and put some better looking crystals in it and clean up the plastic tube with some Polish. And find a way to cap and focus the light into the crystal.The pressure pot got rid of all the bubbles and took about 6 hours at 60PSI sadly with all the failures and still not being perfect I won't be able to give any away. They will be up on ebay at some point but still not happy with the product and want to do heat testing etc to make sure there is no risk to someones saber.


(https://i.imgur.com/2MOqQsY.jpg)

I’ll buy one

Cool I'll let ya know when done, and I'll give you a deal. Thanks for your support. I'm hoping to have them ready for production by the end of next month. I'm doing stress testing and heat testing and stuff. And also trying a few things like adding swirls of color and I might try some bakers glitter lol

Awesome, let me know!  Can’t wait to see them in action and I like your future ideas for them.  I may or may not want to see the glitter one... lol

And anytime my friend, your work’s phenominal as always

Please use PM's for any related purchases that are not directly from Ultra Sabers.  Thanks.  :)

Will do, apologies

Got it my apologies won't happen again.

Getting closer to the final product, we have removed the tube and built a mold so it's tube free and can be seen easier.

(https://i.imgur.com/wjNtvkJ.jpg)

Looking really good, Madness.  I like how this one came out but I’m oretty sure,
Being the perfectionist that you are, you want it much clearer

You are correct it's garbage lol we are designing a 3d printed base and crystal then we will create a mold from that and try again. The original plan was simple and we figured out how to do that. But now it's time to really design something cool. The final goal will be to have no cap and defuse the light enough that you can look down and see a glowing crystal without going blind. That way windows or not you can see the crystal. By removing the need for the tube we have given ourselves more room to create.

The amount of hours into this and research and development is approaching silly. But my buddy and I have decided we are not backing down till it's perfect! We are excited and hope you guys end up liking what we complete.

Great to hear, Madness!  I like how you started with a platform and during your process, you ditched the original idea and fabricated a mold to work with to achieve something better.  I look forward to seeing the final product, it's definitely a great effort and research time is timeless anyhow.   

Here you go bud, after the discussion we had on my design about a floating crystal I went to the drawing table. This was quick and easy with a great result.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=39467.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=39467.0)

(https://i.imgur.com/ybkrdpj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/a4HSuzx.jpg)

Awesome can you share your process and parts list so others can make them. This is cool and looks great!

Hi ryanjh55.  You seem to have several threads related to the same topic/discussion of this blade plug.  It would be easier for the members to follow if you would put the entire creative journey ( past/present/future ) on just one thread.  Thanks.  :)

Also please contribute to the Forum main blade plug thread as you are getting good at this.  :D


http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=37500.msg620767#msg620767 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=37500.msg620767#msg620767)

will do thank you.
Am I able to remove the old ones when I am Done?

Just let me know and I'll lock the other ones with a direct shortcut to your main one.  :)

I'm happy if you want to toss mine into a big mega thread also like the stand ideas thread this can be the blade plug ideas thread.

Great work there, Ryan. Point