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Title: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 19, 2018, 06:54:30 PM Here's our first look of Will Smith as the genie, Aladdin and Princess Jasmine in the live action Aladdin. Thoughts?
(https://i.imgur.com/b9KuHNJ.jpg) Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Infinit01 on December 19, 2018, 07:07:06 PM Looks good, can't wait to see it
Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 19, 2018, 07:22:11 PM Looks good, can't wait to see it Now, I know this photo is totally out of context and probably not indicative of the final look of him in the film, but I am not digging Will Smith as the genie. I doubt anyone would be able to step into Robin William's shoes and Will Smith is as good a pick as anybody I suppose, but this photo has done nothing to elevate my interest in this movie. Financially I have no doubt it will do well, but so far my feelings are "meh". Now, The Lion King on the other hand...... Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Tepes on December 19, 2018, 07:48:15 PM Aladdin- Spot on IMO
Jasmine- I can see it, but need to see her in action so to speak to say yay or nay Genie- Um.......hmmm........ Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 19, 2018, 09:52:54 PM Aladdin- Spot on IMO AgreedJasmine- I can see it, but need to see her in action so to speak to say yay or nay Agreed. Although, I don't know if you watch any Collider videos on Youtube. They used to have a host called Ashley Mova who would be PERFECT as Jasmine.Genie- Um.......hmmm........ Agreed x2Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: scifidude79 on December 19, 2018, 10:56:33 PM That image of Will Smith will haunt my dreams.
The other two look great, though. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Tepes on December 19, 2018, 11:01:17 PM The consensus does seem to be Will Smith doesn't seem to be a good fit for the role. Apparently this is just his human form, he will have a Blue Cgi Jinn form......
Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 19, 2018, 11:04:50 PM Apparently Will Smith has tweeted out that he will be blue and CGI in the movie. However, the negative reactions people are having to him in this photo goes back to what I originally said when it was announced they were making this movie: they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. You absolutely positively CANNOT replicate what Robin Williams brought to the role in the original. And if they try people will complain that it is a poor imitation. If they change things about the genie and go in a completely new direction, people will complain because it's not Robin Williams.
Out of all the live action version Disney are doing, this is the one they should have stayed away from, because the fond memories and success of the animated version is massively and intrinsically linked to what Robin Williams did. At the time it was considered "stunt casting" having him voice the genie. But the success of the movie changed things forever. There are now hundreds of voice over actors/actresses who miss out on work because studios now just cast famous actors/actresses to do voice work in animated movies. But that's a topic for another time. As I said earlier, I think this movie will financially be okay. However I foresee a lot of audience negativity. And that is unfair to Will Smith, because he's a likeable personality, funny and can go dramatic with his acting when he needs to. But this role is s thankless task. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: scifidude79 on December 19, 2018, 11:05:53 PM He'd better be blue at some point. Normally, skin color doesn't matter to me, but the genie was blue originally, so he needs to be blue again. There are just some things you don't change.
I agree, they should have stayed away from this movie. Hell, they probably could have dropped the original back in theaters for people who were kids when it came out to take their kids to, and it would likely make money. But, a remake? We'll see. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Tepes on December 19, 2018, 11:10:17 PM Apparently Will Smith has tweeted out that he will be blue and CGI in the movie. However, the negative reactions people are having to him in this photo goes back to what I originally said when it was announced they were making this movie: they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. You absolutely positively CANNOT replicate what Robin Williams brought to the role in the original. And if they try people will complain that it is a poor imitation. If they change things about the genie and go in a completely new direction, people will complain because it's not Robin Williams. Out of all the live action version Disney are doing, this is the one they should have stayed away from, because the fond memories and success of the animated version is massively and intrinsically linked to what Robin Williams did. At the time it was considered "stunt casting" having him voice the genie. But the success of the movie changed things forever. There are now hundreds of voice over actors/actresses who miss out on work because studios now just cast famous actors/actresses to do voice work in animated movies. But that's a topic for another time. As I said earlier, I think this movie will financially be okay. However I foresee a lot of audience negativity. And that is unfair to Will Smith, because he's a likeable personality, funny and can go dramatic with his acting when he needs to. But this role is s thankless task. I like Will Smith, but, as stated, I just don't think he's right for this role. I really wish they would stop these live action remakes to be honest. Sword in the Stone is supposed to be in the works and that is my favorite Disney animated film...so I'm anxious to see what becomes of it. Agreed on the voice actors getting pushed out in favor of stars. One of the many reasons I loved the Peanuts movie, it cast kids and not big name stars. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 19, 2018, 11:14:28 PM If this was an animated movie, the only person I can think of who could do a good job that would be funny yet different to Robin Williams is Jim Carrey circa 1994 (obviously not him now). But live action, there is no-one.
This costume reminds me a little of the genie in a Ray Harryheusen movie I watched as a kid (one of the Sinbad movies I think). Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Tepes on December 19, 2018, 11:17:19 PM If this was an animated movie, the only person I can think of who could do a good job that would be funny yet different to Robin Williams is Jim Carrey circa 1994 (obviously not him now). But live action, there is no-one. This costume reminds me a little of the genie in a Ray Harryheusen movie I watched as a kid (one of the Sinbad movies I think). LOL I was thinking the same thing.... Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 19, 2018, 11:18:03 PM LOL I was thinking the same thing.... About the costume?Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: scifidude79 on December 19, 2018, 11:53:29 PM This costume reminds me a little of the genie in a Ray Harryheusen movie I watched as a kid (one of the Sinbad movies I think). Ha! Love those movies. (just got some Harryhausen movies on Blu-Ray in the mail yesterday) Ray Harryhausen was the king of stop motion. But, yeah, by today's standards, not quite making it. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Taegin Roan on December 20, 2018, 02:07:20 AM We'll see.
Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: ThreadJack on December 20, 2018, 05:49:00 AM Jasmine is super pretty, hopefully her singing voice matches(she was always my favorite Princess, don't screw this up Disney)..... Will Smith is another story. Are they going to do a Genie freestyle rap? Gettin Jiggy With It?
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JcmQONgXJM#) Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: scifidude79 on December 20, 2018, 08:00:38 AM The possibility of him being a rapping genie is a concern of mine as well. I don't remember anyone ever claiming Will Smith could sing.
Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: ThreadJack on December 20, 2018, 04:42:01 PM The possibility of him being a rapping genie is a concern of mine as well. I don't remember anyone ever claiming Will Smith could sing. I don't know whether or not he can, but I'm definitely concerned about the possibility of them giving him some cheesy rap song. I don't remember Robin Williams doing much singing in the original, so maybe they'll carry that over with Will Smith? Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 20, 2018, 04:49:23 PM Will Smith has been in plenty of films where he didn't rap, so I don't think we should worry about that. I know Robin Williams had the "You ain't never had a friend like me" song, but that was almost spoken word type of singing. But again, it goes back to an earlier point: if they go different with the song people will complain. If they try to keep it more in line with the original, people will complain. The legacy of Williams is too strongly connected with this role.
I think it's like Dr Strange in Infinity War using the time stone to view possible futures. In only one will this movie come out fine. 14 million+ other times it may be a disaster. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: ThreadJack on December 20, 2018, 04:59:45 PM Will Smith has been in plenty of films where he didn't rap, so I don't think we should worry about that. True, but those also weren't musicals, this is, and Will Smith is(or was at one time) a commercially successful and award winning rapper, so I think our concern is justified. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Infinit01 on December 20, 2018, 05:44:52 PM He hasn't rapped in a while so we'll see, he may be a good or a decent singer. I like to keep most of my judgement down until I actually see the movie, look at how everyone doubted Heath Ledger with The Joker and his performance was insane.
Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 20, 2018, 05:54:31 PM True, but those also weren't musicals, this is, and Will Smith is(or was at one time) a commercially successful and award winning rapper, so I think our concern is justified. All very true. But as Infinit01 said he hasn't rapped in a while. Plus, I don't think Disney has ever tried to introduce rap into any of their movies. Also, I think the actors playing Jasmine and Aladdin were cast as much for their singing ability as their acting ability. The genie, singing is not really a prerequisite. As I said before, the genie had one song in the original animated version. The rest of the time it was all about Robin Williams line delivery and comedic genius. And, if push comes to shove, Disney could do what they did with Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music and dub over his singing voice (as not even Disney would be so stupid as to introduce rap music into a song set in the Middle East). Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Infinit01 on December 20, 2018, 06:04:05 PM All very true. But as Infinit01 said he hasn't rapped in a while. Plus, I don't think Disney has ever tried to introduce rap into any of their movies. Also, I think the actors playing Jasmine and Aladdin were cast as much for their singing ability as their acting ability. The genie, singing is not really a prerequisite. As I said before, the genie had one song in the original animated version. The rest of the time it was all about Robin Williams line delivery and comedic genius. And, if push comes to shove, Disney could do what they did with Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music and dub over his singing voice (as not even Disney would be so stupid as to introduce rap music into a song set in the Middle East). Agreed. Disney wouldn't introduce rap into their movies so as you mentioned, they can always dub over Will's singing if he can't do so according to Disney's standards. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: ThreadJack on December 20, 2018, 06:29:15 PM Agreed. Disney wouldn't introduce rap into their movies so as you mentioned, they can always dub over Will's singing if he can't do so according to Disney's standards. Ah yes, the "Zac Effron in High School Musical" treatment.... I have no doubt in Mr. Smith's comedic ability, which I'd wager is why he was hired. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 20, 2018, 07:23:43 PM Ah yes, the "Zac Effron in High School Musical" treatment.... Wait. Hold on a minute. Are you saying that wasn't Zac Efron singing? :oI have no doubt in Mr. Smith's comedic ability, which I'd wager is why he was hired. That's it. Nothing makes sense anymore. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Taegin Roan on December 20, 2018, 07:37:46 PM Wait. Hold on a minute. Are you saying that wasn't Zac Efron singing? :o That's it. Nothing makes sense anymore. Yes, because that most definitely was Efron singing. He may have recorded it and only did the actions/lip synced it in the movie itself, but Efron does sing and did sing in HSM. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: ThreadJack on December 20, 2018, 07:47:49 PM Wait. Hold on a minute. Are you saying that wasn't Zac Efron singing? :o That's it. Nothing makes sense anymore. In the second and third movies, yes it was. However the first one was actor Drew Seely(who played Troy in the stage version). https://www.j-14.com/posts/why-doesn-t-zac-efron-sing-in-high-school-musical-142322/ (https://www.j-14.com/posts/why-doesn-t-zac-efron-sing-in-high-school-musical-142322/) Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 20, 2018, 07:52:06 PM Full disclosure, I have never seen any High School Musical movie. Really not my thing. To be honest, i think the only two movies with Zac Efron in that I've seen was the one he did with De Niro and the remake of Hairspray.
Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Taegin Roan on December 20, 2018, 08:27:49 PM Full disclosure, I have never seen any High School Musical movie. Really not my thing. To be honest, i think the only two movies with Zac Efron in that I've seen was the one he did with De Niro and the remake of Hairspray. You haven't missed much. I liked Efron in The Greatest Showman, haven't watched much else with him in it though. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Infinit01 on December 20, 2018, 08:29:04 PM Full disclosure, I have never seen any High School Musical movie. Really not my thing. To be honest, i think the only two movies with Zac Efron in that I've seen was the one he did with De Niro and the remake of Hairspray. Same here, never been a musical kind of person but I do give respect when it's due Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: Darth Knox on December 20, 2018, 08:30:36 PM Same here, never been a musical kind of person Snap. I like Grease and..............*pause for thought* ....umm, that's about it. Except for the musical episode of Buffy of course. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: scifidude79 on December 20, 2018, 11:09:21 PM I don't remember Robin Williams doing much singing in the original, so maybe they'll carry that over with Will Smith? Robin Williams sang at least two songs a the genie in the original. He sang the "You've Never Had a Friend Like Me" song and the "Prince Ali" song. It's been a while, so I don't remember if he did any others. However, those and "A Whole New World" are the main songs in the movie. Robin may have also sang some in the beginning of the movie as that other character. But, Robin Williams could sing. I just don't know if Will can. It's possible that he can. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: scifidude79 on December 20, 2018, 11:15:50 PM Agreed. Disney wouldn't introduce rap into their movies so as you mentioned, they can always dub over Will's singing if he can't do so according to Disney's standards. I wouldn't presume to say Disney wouldn't do one thing or another. There are firsts for everything. They were strictly an animation studio before doing 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, their first live action movie. They never did a PG-rated film until The Black Hole. They held out on doing a film that was rated PG-13 until Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. (first PG-13 under the Disney name) So, they will occasionally break from their traditions and do things they've never done before. Title: Re: ALADDIN: First look at the Aladdin cast Post by: ThreadJack on December 20, 2018, 11:46:43 PM I loved HSM, still do love those movies. The third was okay, but the first two were pure gold. I also saw Zac Effron in Baywatch(with The Rock), and that was a great movie as well.
I'd like Will Smith to be a good singer, but part of me does also expect "rapping Genie." |