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I was watching a different video on this earlier, on a channel I follow. All I can say is this: streaming gaming is not for me. I have no idea how well the thing will do, though. It may take off like streaming media has, or it may not. I guarantee you that Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony will be watching this with interest.

One thing they mention in the video is that not everyone around the world has great internet connection. So that would be a major factor as to how successful this will be.

They also say that there are still a lot of people who want to own the game, you know, for when they move house or something. I know that physical media is dying slowing (sales of bluray are going down) and that the same will happen to gaming. However, I personally prefer actually owning the thing. Because if South Park has shown us anything it's that one day the internet will go down and when that time comes, society will degenerate into a Mad Max style future. Except for those of us who own physical copies. We will be the new overlords.

That's true, not everyone across the globe have access to internet

Yes, indeed. I gave you both points for having great points. :)

One morning several months back, I was trying to watch something on Hulu. I have a great internet connection, but it was struggling that morning. These things happen, slowdowns and outages are a thing. So, I popped in a DVD and went on my merry way. No issues with that, of course. Now, I do buy digital games, but only because I can download them to my machine and play offline. Even Steam can be launched in offline mode. However, if you don't have the game saved locally, there's a problem when you lose internet.

Also, sometimes streaming may not be the issues, but rather the device itself. We all know how updates and apps can interfere with the functionality of phones and tablets.

Plus, when I play a game, I want it on a nice size screen, not a phone or tablet.

Yep, more valid points. I've had online games struggle because a console or my PC was trying to update something. And, for sure on the screen thing. I played phone games for a while, when I first got a smartphone. But, the novelty wore off real soon. I hardly even play my 3DS (I'm not even sure where it is right now) even though it's really nice, because I love playing on bigger screens. I love my 43" TV for gaming. :)

I'm not a gamer so my opinion didn't bring much to this. But I did hear a little about this the last couple days and to me sounds like a decent idea. To think all I need is a wifi controller (already have Chromecast) without having to buy any other equipment is a huge bonus. Then being able to play at home, on my phone, etc.. seems pretty cool. Anyway just seems like it has a chance if they can work the kinks out.

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I still have my gameboy, but only for that retro factor. Only have super marioland and tetris for it. Both my ps3 and ps4 are connected to my 32" tv in my bedroom. Have been thinking I might get something  bigger though. Maybe in the summer.

And, I believe you just summed up exactly who a gaming device like this is perfect for, tx. People who aren't as much into gaming and who aren't going to have a collection, or worry about having a collection, they just want to play a few games here and there. It's just a single device you hook up to your TV, no mess or anything. And, you can definitely get bluetooth controllers, It may even come with one, though the hardware specs are pretty vague right now. They're for sure going to sell a dedicated controller, though.


The Game Boy was the first gaming device I bought with my own money, when I got my first job in 1995. :) I don't have that one anymore, but I do have a Game Boy Color that I bought to replace it. But, I don't really play it. The Super Game Boy adapter for the SNES is one of the best inventions ever, it allows you to play Game Boy games on a SNES, or nowadays, a SNES clone. (for the HD output) When I feel a hankering for Game Boy games, I just use that. :)

The Super Game Boy was also handy back in the '90s, as I could hook the SNES up to the living room TV and let my mom play Tetris so I could have my Game Boy back. ;)

Tetris is so addictive. My best is 232 lines. Once you get to level 20 the speed is ridiculous.

But I agree with you that Stadia will be aimed more at very occasional gamers. Casual gamers like myself and hardcore gamers will always want some kind of console.

^^^ this - it is both the strength and weakness of this proposal, it lives and dies by the myriad connection issues that can play it.  I will say I prefer digital copies of games, but I download to the hardrive of Ps4/Xbox so can still play offline if i so choose.  If it is pure streaming no download then this won't appeal to a fair number of console gamers imagine.


Also agreed that this will be more likely app store games writ large.  having said that if the major titles start coming onto it at an equivalent or lower price it could do very well and siphon off semi-casual players such as myself who might play 2-3 titles a year.

There are I think lots of ways this could go, i can see it being a flop or a massive success depending on how it all works and what games/hardware is needed, also if it releases in time with the next gen of consoles (assuming there will be some LOL) or just before i think it could make a bigger dent if it carries the 'launch' titles for the PS5 etc. already.

I think there will be a market for both, purely depending on the titles that will be available. If you look at the popularity of a game like Fortnite, I can definitely see games like that on this new service and attracting a lot of attention. However, if developers make "console specific" titles (similar to how you currently have a few console specific games) then I don't think it will have much of an effect on casual/hardcore gamers.

I play maybe 4 or 5 new titles a year, waiting for them to come down in price before buying them used. The cost of new games on consoles is something the industry needs to look at. When Stadia launches and offers games at reasonable prices, i think that will have more of an effect on the industry more than anything else.

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Microsoft has been work on their own streaming service since last year. It’s called Project xCloud

One advantage that consoles have is that they do more than just play games. They are more akin to entertainment centres.  I use my ps4 to watch  Netflix, Prime, YouTube,  BBC iplayer as well as watch dvds/bluray. Plus I also game. Consoles are much more versatile than some people think.

I agree, but you can also do that with any other number is devices. Just about anything you can plug into a TV now days you can do an off that on it. Hell now most TVs come with that ability straight out of the box.

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Oh, I know that. However, I like having those things through my console rather than on a smart tv. For instance, my parents do not have internet where they live (they're old and don't want it). So when we all go home for Christmas, we are usually stuck watching whatever crap is on terrestrial tv. So, I took my PS3 with me so we could and connected it to BT Hotspot and accessed ny streaming platforms that way.

I didn't think you could play bluray on Xbox? I've always been a playstation guy, so may be wrong.

Yes, Smart TVs can do almost everything a console can except play games, store games and saved data onto them since they don't have a dynamic drive.  I'm a multiplayer gamer so I curious as to see how one will be able to use a headset with this

My thing about this is that gaming consoles are made specifically for gaming and other entertainment methods.  You power the console on, you pick the game you want and you play it.  It's also set up specifically to you as well.  This streaming service that allows people to play games on your TV is like playing a game on a regular laptop instead of a gaming laptop.  The idea is good and I'll give it a try; however, my gaming needs are solely for hardcore gaming style as this new service seems more like a casual gaming type of thing.  Sure, you can play it "virtually anywhere" but Xbox games now allow you to play on the console, computer, tablet, and your phone too.  I think it's a good idea but the same idea has been tried several times and failed.  This may very well work and be an addition to future gaming but I don't think it'll replace consoles

^^ This.

Am I alone in not wanting to game "anywhere, anytime"? When I game, I want to sit there for 4 hours in one go, in the comfort of my own home, and focus on destruction, death and carnage. I don't want to grab a few minutes here and there just to pass the time on a journey on in a waiting room or whatever.

You're not alone. I don't even game on my iPhone or iPad. My gaming is solely on the console and my gaming PCs. 

Consoles and PC FTW. I liked portable gaming to an extent, but the older I get the less important it is to me.

My phone is for calls and texts, my ipad is for accessing the net when I'm out and about. My console is for gaming.

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My phone is also for texting and calls but I do get on this awesome forum when I'm on the go.  My iPad is only used to read my books.

Points to you guys for loving the console and pc for gaming! :)

My phone is my mobile computer. But, I still don't like playing games on it.

The only games I like playing on my ipad is solitare, freecell, spider solitaire, hearts etc.

I use my phone more for music than anything

That too.

I was referring the extras the game console could do and nothing to do with gaming itself. It was brought up that game consoles can do all those extras so I was just pointing out that most of those we already have through other means.

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I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying that they both have limits with one geared towards more towards gaming with entertainment as a secondary while the other one hears towards entertainment with gaming as a secondary.  I want to see how the Stadia fairs with multiplayer

Look at email, it was supposed to take over physical mail which is still around. People still use faxes too, it might not be as popular but it still exists. My point is that direct game streaming won’t replace consoles but will be a good addition to the gaming world

They do? I think faxes have been pretty much phased out in the UK (although I could be wrong).

Some companies still use them. I know our good ol’ Government does, lol

That's very retro of them.

A lot of doctors' offices in the US still use faxes. You can also still buy all in one printers over here that have fax capabilities.

They’re just cheap

Did you ever see any computers when you were in the military still running DOS? I did, it was the computer down in our supply room.

We still use fax and DOS here at work and they are both a pain in the ass!

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I didn't see that but I did see some dot matrix printers and the Marine Corps was just getting to Windows 7 late 2000s.

When I was in the Army, Vista wasn't even a thing yet. :P

I know the feeling, the Corps got into 7 when 10 was released.  It's funny actually.  I asked why not get into 10 and they said that a lot of the programs wouldn't have been compatible so it wasn't them not wanting to upgrade, it's the vendor softwares that were ancient.  When I left, they were upgrading to 10 and that was 6 years ago back in 2013 so they were probably upgrading to build 1511 which 1809 is the latest that was 5 builds ago.

I mean I got out in 2005, Vista was launched in 2006. Most of the Army computers were running XP when I got out.

Fair enough. The Army is normally up to date with most of their stuff.  I think the only thing that the Corps is up to date on is tech and weapons.