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Title: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 16, 2012, 10:44:07 PM
I dont know if this topic has been created before in the past but ive noticed in my short time on these forums, that a lot of people throw things around like, "i think *blank* saber color  is a sith color" or, "this saber color is definitely a neutral color" etc.  So i have decided to create a thread to discuss what these colors mean to you, in the hopes that ppl on the fence on what color they want for their new saber, can go through here and possibly relate to what others are interpreting blade colors as.

Guidelines: I generally would not like to include some of the "special" colors such as Sunrider's Destiny, Arctic Blue, Dark Violet Amethyst, and Bane's Heart because they are just variations of a base color.
                  Please include whether the color is an ACTION color (a color that says to you that the wielder is ready to act upon his or her decision) or an INERT color (a color that says to you that the wielder is open to discuss or persuade over immediate action) or a NEUTRAL color (a color that says to you that the wielder has no reservations on how an outcome is achieved).  *** KEEP IN MIND the color "types" have NOTHING TO DO WITH FORCE ALIGNMENT.  so if a blade color is neutral, that does not mean they can be light or dark, it means the wielder can go both ways of ACTION or INERT.

*****Please keep in mind, these are my opinions and MY interpretations.  please continue the thread with your own opinions and interpretations of the colors*******

Here we go:

Guardian Blue - This is an ACTION color.  It represents Justice and it's Enforcement.  As the name suggests, it is a Protector color in Defense against evil and those with malevolent intent.

Consular Green - This is an INERT color.  It represents a mind of the wielder that is at Peace with One's Self. It represents the ability to Counsel and Problem Solve.  To wield this color is to respect Tranquility and Serenity over Force.

Blazing Red - This is an ACTION color.  It represents Passion and Hate.  Striking the first blow, sacrificing defense for attacks that resemble more of an Onslaught, you do not believe in honor amoungst warriors, only who is Stronger.

Violet Amethyst - This is an INERT color.  It represents a mind of the wielder that is Sinister and Brooding.  To Break Down his/her enemy by Taunting or to Persuade his/her enemy to join your cause even if you have no intentions of letting them just for your amusement of seeing them turned.

Sentinel Yellow - This is a NEUTRAL color.  It represents the "Ronin" mentality of one with No Master.  Destiny is Carved by one's Actions.  For Good or for Evil, this blade color signifies that Your Destiny is Your Own and it is what You Make it.

Adegan Silver - This is an ACTION color.  Whether you battle for good or for evil, this blade color signifies that you are Willing to Do whatever it takes to get the job done.  You are Fate's Enforcer, Judge and Executioner.  Whatever the cost, Whatever it takes, your enemy cannot hide from you or your crusade.

Fire Orange - This is a NEUTRAL color. It represents the Ferocity of Blazing Red, and yet the Serenity of Consular Green.  Passion and Anger and Hate are Present however, they are Understood, Contained, Respected, ready to Unleash when the wielder wishes.

so there you have it folks, enjoy and please continue with your own interpretations.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Darth Unobtanium on February 16, 2012, 10:58:45 PM
I actually agree with all of those. Very cool ideas, man!


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 16, 2012, 11:06:59 PM
I actually agree with all of those. Very cool ideas, man!

lol thanks man, OH btw, i do appreciate lightside points ;) everyone keeps giving everyone points and i have none. . . wait, i have one!!! OMG! THANK YOU! . .. someone./. . .


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 17, 2012, 12:27:32 AM
lol thanks man, OH btw, i do appreciate lightside points ;) everyone keeps giving everyone points and i have none. . . wait, i have one!!! OMG! THANK YOU! . .. someone./. . .


And now you have 7 ;) Teh Force is strong wit yew....

I agree with what has already been said, however I tend to go with the Coat of Arms meanings: http://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htmhttp://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htm (http://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htmhttp://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htm)

Of course, that list is incomplete, as it is notably missing magenta (BH) and blue-green (SRD).


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 17, 2012, 12:31:28 AM
And now you have 7 ;) Teh Force is strong wit yew....

I agree with what has already been said, however I tend to go with the Coat of Arms meanings: [url]http://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htmhttp://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htmhttp://www.irishsurnames.com/colors.htm[/url])

Of course, that list is incomplete, as it is notably missing magenta (BH) and blue-green (SRD).


oh wow i didnt even know that existed, thanks for the link!


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 12:39:54 AM
I like yellow.

It's yellow, yellow and yellow.

That's my argument. ;D

It's an exuberant color, it's definitely is a color that I can connect with.

I look to the sky and see a Bright Yellow sun; shinning across the darkness of space. Like a sentinel guarding the lost back to the light.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Andarus on February 17, 2012, 12:49:32 AM

Sentinel Yellow - This is a NEUTRAL color.  

This colour is definitely evil. Look how Kham spreads its love like a disease  :P


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 17, 2012, 12:52:52 AM
This colour is definitely evil. Look how Kham spreads its love like a disease  :P
Kham is the King Of Yellow. He's just doing his job. He doesn't have a choice, it is imbedded in his genetic code.
I like yellow.

It's yellow, yellow and yellow.

That's my argument. ;D

It's an exuberant color, it's definitely is a color that I can connect with.

I look to the sky and see a Bright Yellow sun; shinning across the darkness of space. Like a sentinel guarding the lost back to the light.

I look at the sun and see a small star that will destroy our little planet eventually ;) I always associate yellow with old light bulbs.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 12:56:06 AM
This colour is definitely evil. Look how Kham spreads its love like a disease  :P

You're a disease! ;D

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Without our yellow sun we all wouldn't be here; We'd be floating rock. Yellow has always given me a warm happy feeling, which is what it's always said it was supposed to do to the human brain. Evoke happiness and creativity.

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You did also refer to me spreading "Evil love". lol


Kham is the King Of Yellow. He's just doing his job. He doesn't have a choice, it is imbedded in his genetic code.
I look at the sun and see a small star that will destroy our little planet eventually ;) I always associate yellow with old light bulbs.

Duff say's I have a problem I say my body craves "Sentinel Yellow" goodness. :D

It will one day.

Light bulbs? Reminds me I need to get some for the storage unit.






Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 17, 2012, 01:00:05 AM
Without our yellow sun we all wouldn't be here; We'd be floating rock. Yellow has always given me a warm happy feeling, which is what it's always said it was supposed to do to the human brain. Evoke happiness and creativity.

When it goes Red, nobody will be happy with it ;) Enough about the apocalyptic associations of yellow, what about magenta? What does everyone else think of it as?


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Darth Unobtanium on February 17, 2012, 01:05:12 AM
Yeah, sometimes I see yellow as pestilence or rot (Abraxas from Tron: Evolution, anyone?) I created a Sith character with a yellow saberstaff and the crystal was called "poison amber." Point is, yellow is a totally neutral color, and can lean either way.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 01:17:13 AM
Yeah, sometimes I see yellow as pestilence or rot (Abraxas from Tron: Evolution, anyone?) I created a Sith character with a yellow saberstaff and the crystal was called "poison amber." Point is, yellow is a totally neutral color, and can lean either way.

I enjoyed the crap outta that game!

It is a neutral color.
When it goes Red, nobody will be happy with it ;) Enough about the apocalyptic associations of yellow, what about magenta? What does everyone else think of it as?

Nebula, Brightly colored clouds of gas floating in stasis; the aftermath of the red.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on February 17, 2012, 01:59:52 AM
Those are some excellent interpretations Ricktur!  I greatly enjoyed reading them.

I agree with most of your statements, although I'd like to bring up that some colors can have a very different connotation depending on how they're wielded.  In Mace Windu's hands, a violet saber exudes a regal nobility befitting of a leader of the Jedi Order.  At the same time in the hands of a Sith it appears to almost be a Jedi blade poisoned by the red-hot hatred of the dark side...

I just wanted to remark on that after seeing the differing views of yellow.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: wolfmetal45 on February 17, 2012, 02:28:32 AM
Pretty interesting idea.  Reading your opinions on this was interesting.  Now I'm sure everyone here has their own opinions on what each blade color actually symbolizes but I think you put your point across quite well.

 Really the only BIG difference in opinion I have with your review of colors is green.

Quinlon Vos http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos) was anything but at peace with himself for the Clone Wars and he weilded a green saber.

And when Luke made his lightsaber (after losing his father's to Vader) his new one was green.  And there was more then one time afterwards that Luke dabbled in some darker aspects of the force or lost his nerve.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 02:37:42 AM


Quinlon Vos [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos[/url] ([url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos[/url]) was anything but at peace with himself for the Clone Wars and he weilded a green saber.





Vos was who I based my character off of.

That teetering that he feels.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on February 17, 2012, 03:04:03 AM
Pretty interesting idea.  Reading your opinions on this was interesting.  Now I'm sure everyone here has their own opinions on what each blade color actually symbolizes but I think you put your point across quite well.

 Really the only BIG difference in opinion I have with your review of colors is green.

Quinlon Vos [url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos[/url] ([url]http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quinlan_Vos[/url]) was anything but at peace with himself for the Clone Wars and he weilded a green saber.

And when Luke made his lightsaber (after losing his father's to Vader) his new one was green.  And there was more then one time afterwards that Luke dabbled in some darker aspects of the force or lost his nerve.



Good examples!  Vos was definitely one of the more... unstable Jedi lol

"Cody: "You seem troubled."
  Obi-Wan: "Well, Quinlan Vos has that effect."
  Cody: "Ah, yes. That Jedi has quite a reputation."
  Obi-Wan: "You may be overstating it, Cody. Let's just say he's… crazy."

Keep in mind though that both Quinlan Vos and Luke switched to the more stereotypical red lightsabers when in the throes of the dark side.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 17, 2012, 03:19:31 AM
quilan vos is a character that George Lucas himself, specifically asked comic book artists to "not kill off".  i feel like GL has something planned for that character in the live action tv series. .. 


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 03:35:44 AM
quilan vos is a character that George Lucas himself, specifically asked comic book artists to "not kill off".  i feel like GL has something planned for that character in the live action tv series. .. 

I could see it.

There was a deleted animatic of Vos being taken out on Kashyyk during order 66 but was omitted from the film.

I could see Vos being a Jedi in hiding I would call him a Sentinel the same as Plo Koon.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: wolfmetal45 on February 17, 2012, 03:41:28 AM
NOt sure if anyone else remembers but there is a comic (It was one of the star wars legacy things) where Han Solo as a teen is at a Sarlacc pit because he won a map from a trader that said there was a valuable green jewel there.  Through a series of events he runs into Vos, who reveals the the 'jewel' is his lightsaber.  Of course Vos wipes his memory afterward t keep Han and himself safe but this was actually made before the Clone Wars grpahic novels were finished.  So I doubt we have to worry about our favorite gray jedi biting the dust anytime soon.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 17, 2012, 03:41:43 AM
i thought plo koon was explicitly killed off. . . .


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: BenPass on February 17, 2012, 03:49:28 AM
Back on target and yet totally off at the same time. I kind of think DC hit the nail on the head at least with green in GL....WILLPOWER! A Consular relies more on the force (generally speaking), thus they would need more willpower/concentration. Also green is new life, new beginnings, all sorts of other great things like that. But does that mean that yellow is fear??? Oh well, I've always liked yellow anyway (no Kham did not convert me, simply reminded me of a better time when yellow ruled the world lol)


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Zurth on February 17, 2012, 04:15:06 AM
You are Fate's Enforcer, Judge and Executioner.  Whatever the cost, Whatever it takes, your enemy cannot hide from you or your crusade.

I like this. I really like this. Just something about it makes me want to get a Silver lightsaber


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 04:25:30 AM
i thought plo koon was explicitly killed off. . . .

He Was, I was just using him as another Sentinel.

Vos was in TPM as an extra that was later made into a bigger character using EU.

At one point during his "Evil" time, he used an Orange saber.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Zren Tobas on February 17, 2012, 04:48:57 AM
Since this is thoughts for colors, thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Arctic Blue seems like a color an arctic Jedi would use as if he or she lived on an ice planet or even on Hoth. Just a thought though.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 17, 2012, 04:53:36 AM
Since this is thoughts for colors, thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. Arctic Blue seems like a color an arctic Jedi would use as if he or she lived on an ice planet or even on Hoth. Just a thought though.

If I lived on an arctic planet, I would use silver.

Anyways.... I associate 'colder' blue with cool, calm, calculating professionalism.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Temple on February 17, 2012, 06:31:14 AM
Just like a tarot card or the force there is a dark and a ligth side, colors of the sabers in my  mind denote ones inner essence then combined with how one uses the force creates the meaning.

Say a sith takes Guardian blue, well in my eyes he or she is more of a evil with a strict code of ethics for example.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Taun Telon on February 17, 2012, 02:00:14 PM
These are my interpretations :)  I tried to use words that could be applied to whatever side of the force you are on.



Blazing Red: Action, desire to accomplish, doesn't like to sit by and wait, needs to be in control of own path

Guardian Blue: Reaction, willingness to wait, but will take up aggressive action when needed or presented with obstacles

Sentinel Yellow: Agitation (not in the bad way), constantly looking for options, eyes always alert, analyzing every situation

Consular Green: Passiveness, flows with the world and events, sees events as destiny and almost unchangeable

Violet Amethyst: confidence, shares traits of guardian blue, but also has aura of command/willingness to take command

Fire Orange: spontaneity, shares traits of sentinel yellow, but tends to be more "act before thinking"

Adegan Silver: purity, benevolence, always right, one way of thinking only, one path, focused

Sun Rider's Destiny: loyalty, shares traits of adgean silver and guardian blue, but tends to be a "medieval knight" type (takes up a cause and follows it)

Bane's Heart: passion, shares traits of blazing red and violet amethyst, but is more hard-headed and acts based on feelings and emotions




Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ravenseye8 on February 17, 2012, 02:50:00 PM
Before the prequels, I always viewed the colors in the following manner

Blue: Pure, selfless, strong

Red:  Corrupt, angry, dominance

Green:  Conflict, turmoil, vengeance

Of course, this changed drastically once more jedi were brought into the picture, and games expanded on lore, etc.

The reason behind my thoughts at the time was tied to who wielded the colors. 

Blue - Obi-wan was a self-sacrificing mentor, the epitome of a selfless jedi who does what is needed.  Luke goes to Cloud City despite the danger to himself because he can't leave his friends. 

Red - Vader is a fallen jedi, someone who was once good but let himself be corrupted.  He lashes out in anger when pushed by Luke in Empire, but typically portrays a collected domineering personage.

Green - Luke in Jedi flirts with the dark side.  He force chokes guards in Jabba's palace, he gives in to anger in order to defeat vader, he is full of pride and boasts to Jabba.  His feelings for his father put him in conflict, and he is no longer the innocent he was in the first two movies.  He sorts it out in the end, of course, but I think initially the green was an indicator that he was somewhere in between the good (blue) and bad (red).

Nowadays, I'd say:

Blue - Warrior
Green - Thinker
Purple - Light sider with dark side tendencies.  Conversely, dark sider with light side tendencies
Orange -  Brawler
Yellow - Healer
Red - Bad guy haha


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on February 17, 2012, 02:53:43 PM
If I lived on an arctic planet, I would use silver.

Anyways.... I associate 'colder' blue with cool, calm, calculating professionalism.

Here's the funny thing I find about Arctic Blue - while it certainly has an icy look to it (very fitting name), it appears significantly "softer" than the harsh Guardian Blue.  This makes me think of a more passive, serene Jedi as opposed to an action-based one.

In other words, I associate Arctic Blue with someone like Obi-Wan while I think of Guardian Blue as something that Anakin would use.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 17, 2012, 05:17:12 PM
These are my interpretations :)  I tried to use words that could be applied to whatever side of the force you are on.



Blazing Red: Action, desire to accomplish, doesn't like to sit by and wait, needs to be in control of own path

Guardian Blue: Reaction, willingness to wait, but will take up aggressive action when needed or presented with obstacles

Sentinel Yellow: Agitation (not in the bad way), constantly looking for options, eyes always alert, analyzing every situation

Consular Green: Passiveness, flows with the world and events, sees events as destiny and almost unchangeable

Violet Amethyst: confidence, shares traits of guardian blue, but also has aura of command/willingness to take command

Fire Orange: spontaneity, shares traits of sentinel yellow, but tends to be more "act before thinking"

Adegan Silver: purity, benevolence, always right, one way of thinking only, one path, focused

Sun Rider's Destiny: loyalty, shares traits of adgean silver and guardian blue, but tends to be a "medieval knight" type (takes up a cause and follows it)

Bane's Heart: passion, shares traits of blazing red and violet amethyst, but is more hard-headed and acts based on feelings and emotions




Point for the colorful post and your descriptions.



Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 17, 2012, 07:38:04 PM
Point for the colorful post and your descriptions.

Wraith would be all over this topic with colors we didn't even know existed ;)


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 17, 2012, 09:58:30 PM
I like this. I really like this. Just something about it makes me want to get a Silver lightsaber

i got the inspiration from Lancelot standing at the other end of the bridge with his silver armor, resolute in his charge from John Boorman's Excalibur ;)


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Zurth on February 19, 2012, 05:02:48 AM
i got the inspiration from Lancelot standing at the other end of the bridge with his silver armor, resolute in his charge from John Boorman's Excalibur ;)

I just ordered a Silver Grab Bag because of you. I cannot wait for it.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Amanita on February 19, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
Even when doing non-SW cosplay, I'm hesitant to use red because of its dark connotations, which kinda sucks because it's one of my favorite colors. It's hard enough explaining that I haven't just appropriated a lightsaber, let alone that I'm not a Sith:(
Can I offer some possible blade color interpretations from my universe?

Generally, a psionic blade's color depends on the personality, or just plain desire of the wielder. Those pledged to certain deities also favor certain colors sometimes.
Red- Life force, passion, lifeblood. Also rage or bloodlust.
Orange- fire, energy, courage, audacity. This color is sometimes seen used by those devoted to Sekhmet, or those who have been touched with fire at some point in life
Yellow- steadfastness, courage, the sun, mindful action
Green- Life force, nature, earth, groundedness.
Blue- Air/wind, intellect, water, cunning and wisdom
Cyan/SRD- a blend of blue and green's properties, also the drawing of power from one's connection to both earth and sky
Arctic blue- electricity, air, coolheadedness, calmness in the midst of chaos, also a blend of the properties of blue and white
White/Adagen- Purity, being at peace with oneself, the perfect calm at the eye of the storm
Purple (violet, bane, deep violet)- passion, confidence (can also indicate arrogance), a blend of red and blue's properties.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Steampunk Sith on February 19, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
I love Fire Orange. As it's name suggests, it is associated with fire. A very powerful source of energy and a force to be reckoned with. It can be controlled as well as let loose like a stampede of rancors. It can be used for good and evil. I am an Aries and fire is my passion.
I cannot wait for my Dark War Glaive w/ FO. It will definitely fit my personality.

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Darkside please


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 20, 2012, 01:03:29 AM
I just ordered a Silver Grab Bag because of you. I cannot wait for it.

haha! im glad this helped you make a decision.  Silver is just one of those colors, you know? screams justice.  Tyrael from Diablo series has this silver glow and we all know he does what he must, Excalibur really cemented it for me and then there is the imperial knights, they all have silver blades.

its silver, it screams, "im here to do a job, my business is my own, my business is righteous, dont get in my way"


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 20, 2012, 01:05:21 AM
Even when doing non-SW cosplay, I'm hesitant to use red because of its dark connotations, which kinda sucks because it's one of my favorite colors. It's hard enough explaining that I haven't just appropriated a lightsaber, let alone that I'm not a Sith:(
Can I offer some possible blade color interpretations from my universe?

Generally, a psionic blade's color depends on the personality, or just plain desire of the wielder. Those pledged to certain deities also favor certain colors sometimes.
Red- Life force, passion, lifeblood. Also rage or bloodlust.
Orange- fire, energy, courage, audacity. This color is sometimes seen used by those devoted to Sekhmet, or those who have been touched with fire at some point in life
Yellow- steadfastness, courage, the sun, mindful action
Green- Life force, nature, earth, groundedness.
Blue- Air/wind, intellect, water, cunning and wisdom
Cyan/SRD- a blend of blue and green's properties, also the drawing of power from one's connection to both earth and sky
Arctic blue- electricity, air, coolheadedness, calmness in the midst of chaos, also a blend of the properties of blue and white
White/Adagen- Purity, being at peace with oneself, the perfect calm at the eye of the storm
Purple (violet, bane, deep violet)- passion, confidence (can also indicate arrogance), a blend of red and blue's properties.

i think these are great interpretations, that was my intent with this thread is that others would post their own ideas.  and yes, red is just one of those colors and that says bad guy.  and dont get me wrong, i believe that the wielder can and should wield any color that they choose, but its just very uncommon for a lightsider to wield that color, idk why, ask George Lucas ;)


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Amanita on February 20, 2012, 01:15:47 AM
I think my only beef with SW is that associations with certain colors have become so pervasive, that even non-SW stuff is affected- if you've got a red energy blade, you have to do a helluva lot of explaining. Or if you're seen with any kind of energy blade, people just assume you ripped off an SW prop, or that you're an SW character. My skyscraper cosplay got this, and it's tiring having to explain/justify to everyone who gets in my face. It's why I'm moving to non traditional sound fonts, and looking at making my own hilts that have nothing in common with the SW ones.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Arakan Steele on February 20, 2012, 04:38:41 PM
Noob here but I'll throw in my 2 cents...

I think my only beef with SW is that associations with certain colors have become so pervasive, that even non-SW stuff is affected- if you've got a red energy blade, you have to do a helluva lot of explaining. Or if you're seen with any kind of energy blade, people just assume you ripped off an SW prop, or that you're an SW character. My skyscraper cosplay got this, and it's tiring having to explain/justify to everyone who gets in my face. It's why I'm moving to non traditional sound fonts, and looking at making my own hilts that have nothing in common with the SW ones.

The problem stems from a simple decision that has been expanded upon by a rabid fan base. There really was no reason behind the different colors that Lucas used other than to distinguish between the good guys and the bad guys, thus the good guys(Obi-Wan & Luke) used blue and the bad guys (Vader) used red. Of course, how anyone could confuse Vader as a good guy in that outfit is beyond me, but I digress... The green was added later simply because Lucas wanted to use a different color that time around.

Fans have demanded the expansion of SW lore and now of course we have the typical rules of lightsaber colors. Thanks to popular video games those rules have also been expanded. Now, Blue, Green, Yellow and Violet are all "official" Jedi colors representing the lightside, while the dark side is still stuck with just the red. Silver has been added in the EU and Legacy series, used by the Imperial Knights to denote their neutrality between light and dark.

I tend to look at the colors this way:
Blue = Nobel, valiant, a true defender of the light. Ready to battle evil and vanquish those who would do harm.
Green = Wisdom, patience, virtue. At peace with the universe and those around him. Not quick to strike but fearless when he does so.
Yellow = Caution, aware of danger, both around him and within him. He is prepared for anything and is seldom caught by surprise. The yellow serves as a warning to his opponents as well.
Purple = Royalty, elite, superior. He is a true master of his skills and he attacks with precision. One mistake will cost you your life.
Red = Anger, agression, fury. Quick to strike and full of emotion. There is strength there, sometimes unbridled but always dangerous.
Silver = Cold, hard, calculating. The color of steel. He is unbending and fiercly loyal. Always ready to serve a greater power, whether that power be a person or the force itself. You may kill him, but you will never defeat him.

Well, I'm not sure if that's what you were looking for but there's my take on the basic colors.

P.S. - I'm rather fond of the yellow myself...


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 20, 2012, 04:52:22 PM
Green was added because blue wouldn't show up against the Tatooine sky.

Sith/Dark Jedi aren't stuck with just red. Exar Kun wielded sapphire blades, and I believe Xanatos used a magenta blade. And some Jedi used red (Gallia, notably).

Silver is not just used by Imperial Knights.

Other than that, I like the interpretations. You get a point.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Arakan Steele on February 20, 2012, 05:07:06 PM
Green was added because blue wouldn't show up against the Tatooine sky.

Sith/Dark Jedi aren't stuck with just red. Exar Kun wielded sapphire blades, and I believe Xanatos used a magenta blade. And some Jedi used red (Gallia, notably).

Silver is not just used by Imperial Knights.

Other than that, I like the interpretations. You get a point.

Thanks, yeah I know Corran Horn used a silver lightsaber, which I meant to include in the EU part about the Imperial Knights but forgot while I was typing.

the "off" colors like sapphire and magenta I don't usually get into. To me, if it's "sapphire" then it's blue. I generally stick with the basic colors. I've never been a fan of the orange either, it's just a mix between the red and yellow, and again I generally stick to just basic colors. But anywho...


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Luna on February 20, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
Thanks, yeah I know Corran Horn used a silver lightsaber, which I meant to include in the EU part about the Imperial Knights but forgot while I was typing.

the "off" colors like sapphire and magenta I don't usually get into. To me, if it's "sapphire" then it's blue. I generally stick with the basic colors. I've never been a fan of the orange either, it's just a mix between the red and yellow, and again I generally stick to just basic colors. But anywho...

So a Sith who used blue blades. And green is just a mix between yellow and blue, but I get your point ;) I like orange sabers, but I think it's better left obscure for the most part.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Amanita on February 20, 2012, 06:23:35 PM
I could add to mine- Orange can also have a dark side, due to its fire connotations. To some, a fire-blade might symbolize fire's purifying properties, or be a symbol of what they have overcome or survived. But to others, it might align with fire's destructive force, a desire to cause pain and destruction, or to inflict the pain one has suffered on others.
Likewise electric blue- some twisted individuals might abuse a combination of electric and psionic energy, using it to inflict pain for the sake of causing pain.
Red could be wielded by a good individual too- one who knows how to channel and control passion, turning it to greater good.

Lucas wasn't the first or the only one to conceive of energy blades, his examples are just the most famous.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 20, 2012, 07:20:43 PM
I could add to mine- Orange can also have a dark side, due to its fire connotations. To some, a fire-blade might symbolize fire's purifying properties, or be a symbol of what they have overcome or survived. But to others, it might align with fire's destructive force, a desire to cause pain and destruction, or to inflict the pain one has suffered on others.
Likewise electric blue- some twisted individuals might abuse a combination of electric and psionic energy, using it to inflict pain for the sake of causing pain.
Red could be wielded by a good individual too- one who knows how to channel and control passion, turning it to greater good.

Lucas wasn't the first or the only one to conceive of energy blades, his examples are just the most famous.

i dont disagree necessarily with what you are saying Amantia, however SW is what we are the most familiar with and our love for Lightsabers (TM) (<--- lol)   is what attracted us to purchasing these sabers, many of which are modeled/ resemble actual SW sabers. 

and speaking of outside of SW lore, colors like red have always symbolized emotions such as passion, think about a rose.  Flower colors have different meanings and i believe the rose (red) stands for love/passion.

but anyway, Im glad you are posting your views, its what i intended for the thread, you are definitely offering an "outside of the box" approach, its refreshing :)


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Amanita on February 20, 2012, 07:44:39 PM
I think my frustration stems from the fact that at cons, people get on my case a lot, insisting I justify part of my costume, because to them, SW is the ONLY place they've seen an energy blade, and Lightsabers are the only kind that exist. They've never heard of psionic blades, aether swords, plasma blades, or any other form of energy weapon.

Why not avoid the hassle and carry a regular sword? Well, a lot of conventions have a problem with that. A huge problem. Even if it's duller than a butterknife, a lot of cons won't let it past the front doors. Others will allow it, but only for the costume contest, or only if it is never taken out, not even to pose for a pic, or to show somebody. Even carved wood is verboten or heavily restricted at some places. And I refuse to junk up a costume that's had hundreds of hours spent on it by carrying a prop made of cardboard, foamboard, or some other flimsy material painted silver. So I stick with my psi-blades, as a lot of cons don't restrict props like that so heavily.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Ricktur on February 21, 2012, 01:36:05 AM
I think my frustration stems from the fact that at cons, people get on my case a lot, insisting I justify part of my costume, because to them, SW is the ONLY place they've seen an energy blade, and Lightsabers are the only kind that exist. They've never heard of psionic blades, aether swords, plasma blades, or any other form of energy weapon.

Why not avoid the hassle and carry a regular sword? Well, a lot of conventions have a problem with that. A huge problem. Even if it's duller than a butterknife, a lot of cons won't let it past the front doors. Others will allow it, but only for the costume contest, or only if it is never taken out, not even to pose for a pic, or to show somebody. Even carved wood is verboten or heavily restricted at some places. And I refuse to junk up a costume that's had hundreds of hours spent on it by carrying a prop made of cardboard, foamboard, or some other flimsy material painted silver. So I stick with my psi-blades, as a lot of cons don't restrict props like that so heavily.

and that frustration is understandable.  I havent been to a con before and so i have never had this issue but i suppose its the nature of the beast.  SW is rather popular and with current US hilt designs, its easy to assume you are wielding a lightsaber.  But understand, that's also what they intended. 


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Amanita on February 21, 2012, 07:15:54 AM
It's why I'm looking into crafting some of my own light-weapons ATM. I've got some sketches of a pommel based on the lantern finial of an NYC skyscraper, designed to go with MHS parts. Only problem is, getting it made. I don't think Ultra is doing custom parts, and it might be too far apart from the TCSS pieces for them to want to do it :'(

Some of US's hilts are obviously based on the SW movie hilts, which is why I recommend them so highly to cosplayers looking for affordable and durable replicas. But some of the other designs are generic enough to work for lots of things, and lend themselves well to customization.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Jenny on February 21, 2012, 07:42:33 AM
I think that, for most of the Jedi, for most of their history, blade color was just a function of what appropriate crystal they could lay their hands on to be the heart of the sabre.  There are stories in the KOTR comics, for instance, of people making huge quest-treks to get particular crystals in repayment of some massive favor; I have to think that they'd just use what they could get their hands on when not in that kind of debt situation.

But...

Then Taun Telon nailed the way I like to think about myself and associated it with my favorite blade color:

Sun Rider's Destiny: loyalty, shares traits of adgean silver and guardian blue, but tends to be a "medieval knight" type (takes up a cause and follows it)

So maybe I'm speaking through an inappropriate bodily orifice. 8)


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Naris Suril on November 01, 2018, 07:56:29 PM
This is actually something I've pondered on a lot.

Blue: A protector. Someone who is always ready to fight. A "do-er", if you will--but someone who works for good instead of ill.

Green: Someone who, in their heart of hearts, does not like confrontation. They are aligned to the Light Side of The Force. They are a "think-er", if you will--but work for good instead of ill.

Red: Hate, anger, rage--but also passion (not compassion, though). They burn like red fire in their darkness and work for ill, whether they are a direct worker (more blunt force, like Vader) or through calculated manipulations that can take years (more cunning, like Sidious).

Violet: Somewhere in-between. Someone who has The Dark Side within them, but acknowledges this fact instead of hides from it. They are someone who can take the darkness inside of them and use it for the greater good without letting it devour them and can turn the darkness of others against them. Red and Blue make Purple. Sometimes these people can be broody or have a short temper.

Yellow: The only "canon" ones we see belong to the Jedi Temple Guards. I've heard some say it's because the fact that those sabers rotate--but that's not how I see it. Going back to the games, Yellow is the standard issue colour of Sentinels. Yellow, for me, represents cunning, deception, and manipulation--but for good purposes--using these tactics against themselves to get information out of an enemy or to guard their own secrets.

Silver: Absolute Purity--not bound to any politics, not bound to the restrictions of either Order. Someone who serves the Force entirely, carrying out its will. I feel like Tano really represents what I mean. Her sabers are silver when she is no longer part of The Order (I know about the cleansing the red crystals, but I also feel like this applies, too). She wasn't part of The Jedi Order, but she never became a Dark Sider, and seemed to mostly serve the Light Side.


Those are my interpretations, anyway.


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Golden Fedora on November 01, 2018, 07:58:53 PM
quick question, did you check the date on any of the above posts Naris?


Title: Re: Saber Colors and What They Mean - You Decide!!
Post by: Naris Suril on November 02, 2018, 02:02:45 AM
quick question, did you check the date on any of the above posts Naris?
Oh...
Sorry.
It's just it was posted to me on my intro thread, and I didn't know.
I'm sorry.

(Also, not to detract or hijack, but I just now noticed it. It's very tiny print and I can't see well. Sorry about that, and is there any way to make it bigger?)