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Title: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: John-Michael on January 23, 2012, 07:27:09 AM
I read through all the saber descriptions and not all of them have hilt lengths.  I tried using the search function, and could not find a single thread with a complete list of ultrasaber hilt lengths.  

I'm willing to edit this post to compile an exhaustive list of ultrasaber hilt lengths.  All I need is for ultrasaber owners to post hilt length and diameter measurements of the hilts they own.

Here's what I have so far (these measurements are with standard pommels, emitters, etc. and unless noted, do not reflect RGB-modified measurements):

Initiate v2/Dark Initiate v2 and LE versions: somewhere between 8.75 and 9 inches long, 1.25 inches wide

Initiate v3/Dark Initiate v3 and LE versions:  9.5 inches long, 1.45 inches wide

Dominix v2/Aeon and LE versions:  somewhere between 11.75 and 12 inches long, 1.25 inches wide

Standard Issue Battle Saber and Dark, Red & Blue versions:  12.25 inches long, 1.28 inches wide

Dominix v3/Aeon v3:  12.25 inches long, 1.45 inches wide

Standard Issue Battle Saber v3:  12.25 inches long, 1.48 inches wide

Liberator/Dark Liberator/Red Liberator/Blue Liberator:  I do not know if these are actually the Liberator v2's because they are simply labeled "Liberator."

Liberator v2:  11.5 inches long, 1.25 inches wide

Liberator v3/Dark Liberator v3:  11.625 inches long, 1.42 inches wide

Prophecy/Dark Prophecy/Collector's Edition Prophecy/Dark Prophecy LE:  10.5 inches long, 1.45 inches wide (at widest point)

Prophecy v3/Dark Prophecy v3:  11 inches long, 1.45 inches wide (at widest point)

Bellicose:  13.5" long from pommel to emitter tip

Shock/ Shock LE/Dark Shock:  11.0625"

Overlord:  12.25 inches long  (RGB version is 13.5 inches long)

Arbiter/Dark Arbiter:  14 inches long and 1.450 inches wide

Bane: 13 inches long (RGB version 15 inches long)

War Glaive/Dark War Glaive:  13.0625" without claws, 15.5" with claws

Consular:  12 inches long

Archon v2:  11 inches long when assembled (11.375 inches long including the neck)

Catalyst/Dark Catalyst:  12.5 inches long from pommel to tip of emitter

Raven:  13.25" without claws, 19" with claws

Guardian:  13 inches long and 1.5 inches wide

Anakin Skywalker ROTS UltraFX:  ?

Darth Maul UltraFX single hilt:  ?

Darth Vader ANH UltraFX:  ?



I'll edit this list as soon as I get more information from people posting in this thread or from further research on my part.  I hope you find this information useful in making your ultrasabers shopping decisions!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: qroon on January 23, 2012, 08:06:29 AM
Very nice initiative! This will be a great guide for someone like me who can't decide due to measurement questions.

Light side points given :)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Chainmale75 on January 23, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
Ok, this is kind of relating to your post. but a little more specific measurement.  like the distance between the emitter and the power switch. I like to hold the saber up close to the blade.
 but I have bear-paws..5in from pinky to forefinger. I'd like to make sure that i can grab the weapon and not have my fingers rubbing against the power switch. LoL  So, if anyone can toss some numbers on these that'd be awesome !  The Dark Standard Issue and the Aeon are the ones I'm concerned about atm. 

                                                Thanx and sorry if I jacked the thread !  ;D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: CZ3RO on January 24, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
Maybe a good way to show everyone not just how long a saber hilt is, but answer all those "how long is it from this part to that part" questions is to start a photo collection showing each saber with a ruler or measuring tape above and below the saber, each facing opposite directions.  Hard to visualize, but I'm at work (working hard obviously) so I'm gonna do some good ol'fashioned ASCII art as an example.   When I get home I'll post a pic with my Overlord (doin this now so I don't forget) and you guys can say if it's helpful or not.

Remember, tape on top, saber in the middle and another tape below:

      0_1_2_3_4_5_6_7_8
      [))))))]####(
_6_5_4_3_2_1_0

Or maybe I'm just completely crazy and should call it a day.   :P


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: CZ3RO on January 24, 2012, 07:50:52 PM
Okay, so my plan failed - maybe I need bigger rulers, but I just couldn't get the perspective right anyway, so blah.  Here's my best shot followed by something I hope to redeem myself with.   ;)

(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa323/CZ3RO1/P1240418.jpg)

I always had trouble visualizing the actual girth of a saber hilt so I took this of my Overlord pommel with some visual references - for my American friends, a Canadian quarter is the same size as a US one.   ;D

(http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa323/CZ3RO1/P1240431.jpg)

Hopefully that helps... someone.   :P


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: beeflomein on January 29, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
darth maul (single blade) 10.25 inches long
mace windu 11 inches


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: John-Michael on February 01, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
Apparently, I cannot modify my own original post in this thread, so perhaps the moderators can do it as required?

Thanks in advance to everyone who contributed so far as well as to the moderators who take the time to edit the original post to reflect updated and additional information. Light Side Points given to everyone!

If I erred in giving you light side points, please PM me and I will do my best to rectify the error.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: John-Michael on February 01, 2012, 06:22:29 PM
Edit: I gave Light Side points to everyone except CZ3RO, to whom I gave Dark Side points to.  Sorry for the extra post, I couldn't edit my own post.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: John-Michael on February 07, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Very nice initiative! This will be a great guide for someone like me who can't decide due to measurement questions.

Light side points given :)
Thanks, qroon!  Light Side Points back at ya!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 07, 2012, 12:35:46 PM
@John-Michael - All three Shocks (Normal, Dark and LE.) are, 11 1/16".

Both War Glaive withou claws is 13 1/16". With claws it is 15 1/2".

Raven without claws is 13 1/4", with claws it rest a nanometer under a flat 19".

I think other than the FX ones, your list has rounded itself out buddy. ;D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on February 07, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
I set this topic sticky, figured it's always useful to be able to compare these kinds of measurements on a hilt.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 07, 2012, 06:48:31 PM
I set this topic sticky, figured it's always useful to be able to compare these kinds of measurements on a hilt.

Could you also edit it (when you have a moment) with the lengths I posted so that John-Michael's list "Will be Complete." ;D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Master Nero Attoru on February 07, 2012, 08:43:33 PM
Could you also edit it (when you have a moment) with the lengths I posted so that John-Michael's list "Will be Complete." ;D

Done :)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 07, 2012, 09:07:01 PM
Done :)

Thank you Master.


I believe John now has a complete list (Except for FX, though Vex I think will be able to comment more soon.) which earns you all a point. ;D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: John-Michael on February 13, 2012, 03:46:54 AM
Thanks, Kham and Nero!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 13, 2012, 10:35:08 AM
Thanks, Kham and Nero!

N, Thank you for putting this together.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Wiffle68 on February 14, 2012, 10:55:20 AM
Sweet, I'm making a Dark War Glaive staff and this is exactly what I needed to know.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kham-Ryn Kurios on February 14, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
Sweet, I'm making a Dark War Glaive staff and this is exactly what I needed to know.

YAY!

That means John-Michael gets a point.

Great thread.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Stephen Strange on March 22, 2012, 03:55:44 AM
Just put these measurements in a spreadsheet so I can order it easier. hmm.. one handed sabers or best ones to make a staff are Initiates, Prophecy and Shocks.. although the Prophecy is not the handiest for a staff.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Xanedan on March 24, 2012, 12:02:54 AM
Some additional info on the Raven, that I find helpful.



Raven: SS Pommel, SS claws, 4 Energizer Recharge NiMH batteries, Obsidian, standard midgrade blade weighs - 837.2g or 1lb 13.53oz

Balance is roughly where the screw is located on the claw. 

Total length - 47inches

Hilt + Claws - 20 3/4ths inches.

Hilt - Claws - 13 1/4 inches

Usable grip (Area where my hand can rest without compromising the grip on the blade - includes the pommel and the shroud up to the claws) - 10 3/4ths inches.

Intended grip - 8 1/4th inches.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Duff Man on September 06, 2012, 03:13:18 PM
HEY IT IS NOT THE SIZE OF THE HILT THAT MATTERS...IT'S HOW YOU USE IT!   ;D ;D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Matzut on November 10, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
What is the diameter of the Raven hilt? I was thinking about buying a Shock LE but I had the opportunity to hold a Raven recently and I feel that it was to think for me. I definitely want a saber with a smaller diameter.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Juyo Vaunk on November 10, 2012, 04:31:20 PM
Quick question,
  Does anyone know the width and weight of the shock? Ive heard its a bit wide and heavy and just wanted to clarify.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kenobi 2112 on November 11, 2012, 08:35:41 AM
Thanks.this helps alot


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kenobi 2112 on December 14, 2012, 02:22:29 PM
awsome. this helps a lot. thanks


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: GreyRose on January 02, 2013, 08:17:06 PM
Just found this site today (wow was I on the wrong internet highway!)  and was looking at the custom components.  I have really big hands and was wondering has anyone tried this build configuration?
Emitter
Coupler
Body
Coupler
Pommel

I was thinking of:
Manticore emitter   (if there was a length on the Manticore I missed it, but estimated 2")
Black & Silver coupler with vents   1.75"
Dark War Glaive Body   7.5"  (but I wish the Consular body was available as a component)
Flush black finish coupler (maybe with vents?)   1.75"
Malice round Pommel   1.2"

This would make a saber about 14.2" long


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 02, 2013, 08:19:56 PM
Just found this site today (wow was I on the wrong internet highway!)  and was looking at the custom components.  I have really big hands and was wondering has anyone tried this build configuration?
Emitter
Coupler
Body
Coupler
Pommel

I was thinking of:
Manticore emitter   (if there was a length on the Manticore I missed it, but estimated 2")
Black & Silver coupler with vents   1.75"
Dark War Glaive Body   7.5"  (but I wish the Consular body was available as a component)
Flush black finish coupler (maybe with vents?)   1.75"
Malice round Pommel   1.2"

This would make a saber about 14.2" long

Some slight problems GR:  Couplers have double male connections.  You could do the Manticore Emitter + Dark War Glaive Body + Malice Round Pommel.  That would work perfectly.  Unless you are using the Archon V2 or trying to make a staff, the couplers are not going to be of much use.

Blue


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: GreyRose on January 03, 2013, 05:36:51 PM
Blue, thanks for the info.    :)    I was not confidant my proposed component mix would work and you gave very clear and valid reasons why.

In a second look, the War Glaive RGB body has greater length approximately the same as one of the couplers was intended to add.

<sigh> It's not like I can afford another custom sword yet, so I'll just have to save up.  Maybe by the time I have the cash, more design options for Wookie pawed Jedi will be available.... ;)  Like maybe male/female extenders will have been added as component options, or a wider variety of long body's will be available.

GR


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 04, 2013, 06:30:29 AM
For big hands, the Arbiter and the Malice seem to fit the bill quite well.  I personally like the Arbiter because you can swing it like a baseball bat with a 40" blade attached. 


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Genkaku Sho`shyk on January 06, 2013, 09:28:08 AM
It is a shame that US does not yet make coplers that are female on both ends.. This would be easy, and make for amy more customizationsfor the cliten base. I have been looking for a way toget my initiate v3 hilt top to be threaded with female threads as i want to use one of the pommels as an emitter, but my initiate v3 does not have Any threading at all on the top... i cant figure out where to go to get this done either.. Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on January 06, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
It is a shame that US does not yet make coplers that are female on both ends.. This would be easy, and make for amy more customizationsfor the cliten base. I have been looking for a way toget my initiate v3 hilt top to be threaded with female threads as i want to use one of the pommels as an emitter, but my initiate v3 does not have Any threading at all on the top... i cant figure out where to go to get this done either.. Any suggestions?

We have an Ultrasabers Wish List stickied somewhere.  It has yielded some really great things like Recharge Ports and flush couplers.  Might be a good place to ask.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Pacem Vim on March 24, 2013, 06:18:08 AM
I'd like to add that the Shock LE RGB version is 13" long and 1.5" in diameter


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Schtuperman on March 24, 2013, 11:34:38 AM
Quote
I have been looking for a way toget my initiate v3 hilt top to be threaded with female threads as i want to use one of the pommels as an emitter, but my initiate v3 does not have Any threading at all on the top... i cant figure out where to go to get this done either.. Any suggestions?

You could take it to a machine shop and have it done or, if you know someone with a good tap & die set, you could simply tap the threads yourself.  There may be enough metal in the emitter to tap it a standard MHS thread like the pommel but you will need to check by removing your blade and pressing the threaded end of your pommel into the emitter.  (Don't shove it or try to screw it in, just see if the threads touch the inside wall and prevent it from sliding in)  If this is the case, then you have enough there to tap it MHS size.  You may need to modify or relocate the blade retention hole.  If you do this, make sure you apply some white grease to the threads BEFORE coupling or it may seize!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Tsalamir on April 29, 2013, 04:50:06 AM
Quick Question: Anyone know how far the emitter shroud on the Bellicose sticks out from the blade holder?

I have the Dark Arbiter and it feels far too long, but I am considering a Bellicose with Archon pommel as a replacement.

Thanks


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: eerockk on June 20, 2013, 08:39:01 AM
Quick Question: Anyone know how far the emitter shroud on the Bellicose sticks out from the blade holder?

I have the Dark Arbiter and it feels far too long, but I am considering a Bellicose with Archon pommel as a replacement.

Thanks


Great choice, including the pommel! (That's my exact setup). The shroud extends around 1.25" to 1.5" from the main hilt. It's shorter than the D. Arbiter, and the shroud isn't really a part one can grab anyway, so it's just cosmetic.

(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff407/EeRocKK/Saberforum/DSC00231.jpg) (http://s1234.photobucket.com/user/EeRocKK/media/Saberforum/DSC00231.jpg.html)
(http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff407/EeRocKK/Saberforum/DSC00234.jpg) (http://s1234.photobucket.com/user/EeRocKK/media/Saberforum/DSC00234.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Kal-El on October 15, 2013, 12:42:25 AM
Anybody have the reaper measured yet?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Zren Tobas on October 18, 2013, 02:56:46 PM
Cool so the Bane isn't as big as I thought. US doesn't have the measurements on the buy page like usual. Smaller than the Bellicose. Overlord isn't half bad length either.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Master Bluespike74 on October 19, 2013, 10:38:14 AM
Anybody have the reaper measured yet?

19.5 inches from claw tip to claw tip.  28.6 oz with AV switch, sound and batteries installed, and thin walled poly blade attached. 


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Darth_Hydden on November 08, 2013, 01:38:23 PM
So glad I found this thread. I'm sad that the initiates are too short for me. I don't even have Wookie size hands, I'm just more comfortable with a hilt I can actually fit both hands on.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Tevva on November 15, 2013, 12:33:22 PM
would it be possible for someone to post the internal diameters of the hilt  and the diameters of the mating peices. I am mainlt looking for how much space the electronics need inside the hilt.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Meerkat on February 05, 2014, 10:20:45 AM
would it be possible for someone to post the internal diameters of the hilt  and the diameters of the mating peices. I am mainlt looking for how much space the electronics need inside the hilt.

I'd like this too. Thinking of working with washers and such to align saberstaff hilts correctly.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Abigorish on March 06, 2014, 09:08:40 AM
This question goes out to anyone who can answer it, and forgive me if its a stupid question, but on the Dark Initiate V3 is the top of the hilt and the bottom the same width?  In the pictures they look like they are different widths, but I dont know if that is just the angle of the picture or the actual hilt.  Thanks to anyone who can answer!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: The_Ronin_Jedi on March 09, 2014, 08:13:24 AM
How long are EACH of the components of the Reaper?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Abigorish on April 07, 2014, 11:09:15 AM
Does anyone have the Width for the Belicose? 


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on April 10, 2014, 05:15:32 AM
Does anyone have the Width for the Belicose?  

It varies as you go up the hilt, from about 1.45" at the black grip to about 1.6" at the base of the shroud.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Abigorish on April 14, 2014, 05:39:12 AM
Thanks SkyFaller!  I was hoping teh width around the grip would be a bit smaller than around the shroud.  Looks I know what my next saber is!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: sedstiskyfaller on April 15, 2014, 01:14:11 PM
Thanks SkyFaller!  I was hoping teh width around the grip would be a bit smaller than around the shroud.  Looks I know what my next saber is!

Can't go wrong with the Bellicose, my friend. You're gonna love it.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Qbaty on May 09, 2014, 10:47:33 AM
Hi there saberfans! im new to this forum so pls, dont rage if i say something stupid :D
i Have a question and i decided to write it here cuz i couldnt find anything in google...
Can anybody tell me what is average weight of ultrasaber? I mean, how heavy it is in hand?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: eerockk on May 09, 2014, 11:13:51 AM
Hi there saberfans! im new to this forum so pls, dont rage if i say something stupid :D
i Have a question and i decided to write it here cuz i couldnt find anything in google...
Can anybody tell me what is average weight of ultrasaber? I mean, how heavy it is in hand?

These are the types of questions we love to answer! My Bellicose with a heavy grade blade on it is 1.9lbs. Hefty, but not unmanageable. If someone rages on you here, we will report it immediately! :)

Welcome to the forums!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Racona Nova on May 09, 2014, 11:46:50 AM
There is no such thing as stupid questions...well, at least not for a newbie on this forum :D Welcome here!
My Aeon v3 (w/out blade) is about 400-450g (0.9-1lb), if I remember correctly. With a MG add about 120g (0.26lb), with a HG add 240g (0.53lb). Haven't measured it recently, however.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Qbaty on May 09, 2014, 12:20:30 PM
Wow!
I thought it is a lot heavier...
Thank you very much :D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: SpiritOfSakura on July 17, 2014, 07:46:50 PM
This is definitely useful!
Wow, I hadn't realized the Raven was quite that long.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: OISIN NOM on July 29, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
This is definitely useful!
Wow, I hadn't realized the Raven was quite that long.

That's what she said...ha ha...JK


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Darth Altanderus on August 04, 2014, 04:14:42 AM
I like this thread.  Though for the one I got I just balanced coolness with affordability.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Ren Kobar on September 06, 2014, 08:08:44 AM
What is the length of the manticore?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Racona Nova on September 06, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
11" with low-profile pommel and 12" with high-profile pommel according to its product page :)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: VFrost0 on September 10, 2014, 05:22:24 AM
I was asking questions along these lines in the Technical Threads. So, I'll ask here. I got an Aeon LE, and I want to know the Inner Diameter, since it is not MHS compatible. I looking to see if there is an adapter that will allow me to go from this to an MHS compatible piece. I'm looking at certain otehr parts suppliers and wondering if the MHS 1 to MHS 2 converter would work.



Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Dauntless Seven on September 10, 2014, 10:08:08 AM
Hi VFrost0.  Are you saying that you have an Aeon v2 non- MHS compatible version?  If you have the v3's then no problem.  If you go to search it should connect you to the appropriate threads until another member can assist you.  Perhaps contact Sedsti Skyfaller ( scroll up for his signature).  Hope you get the info you are wanting.   :)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: neekssss on December 21, 2014, 07:13:58 PM
I have been trying to find a place where all the measurements are given.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: jartok on January 12, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
What about the V4 ones? would like to know how the DARK INITIATE V4 compares.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: jartok on January 12, 2015, 08:36:07 PM
oops its on the website  ::)

9 7/8"


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Sifu John on March 14, 2015, 08:14:03 AM
Hi Everyone,
I know I disappeared there for a little bit (It's been a rough couple weeks), but I wanted to ask a quick question.
Does anyone have the RGB Versions of the following sabers:
Dark Shock (Shock)
Overlord
Dark Warglave (Warglave)

I am wondering what the Body length is on these RGB versions (sorry if I missed that earlier in the thread, I dont think the RGB Versions were mentioned).

I am planning a custom assembly with one of these three bodies and new emitters and pommels.
I appreciate any Info.
Thanks so much,
Sifu John



Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 14, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
Hi Sifu John.  Good to see you back and hope all is well.  I recently purchased the RGB dark Shock which looks awesome.  Using a Raven SS pommel with it.  The total length is 13".  With the Shock pommel length is 13.5".  Hilt body only without emitter and pommel is 9.75".   Regular Shock from pommel to emitter is 11".  Hilt body only is 7.25".   

It's a long saber but lighter with good two hand grips and fairly evenly balanced depending upon blade used.  There is a 4th master switch.  I kept the buttons all the same for continuity instead of an av master switch.  If ordering with sound and FoC, the flash comes in AS or FO only.  If you decide upon this one, asking for a currently free to trial Obsidian V4 upgrade would be fantastic to instantly change the sound fonts to match blade colors.  Suggest asking for all guarded switches to be the same, as the three color buttons will have the silver center and the master all black.  Also placing the covertec wheel underneath, closer to pommel rather than on either side, will provide a nice clean line.  I'm really pleased with mine.  Using an UE blade.  Hope this helps.   :)

The Overlord regular length is 12.25" and RGB is 13.5"  Warglave specs unknown to me, but I have the regular hilt part only.  Is slightly over 7.5".  The RGB hilt body only is 9.5".  Both of these sabers have the additional RGB master switch.  The RGB Shock and Warglave empty hilt bodies can be purchased for a custom build.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Sifu John on March 14, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
Hi Dauntless :-)
Things have been stressful lately with some family emergencies, but we are doing well regardless.
Thank you so much :-)

Also thank you for the info.
I was wanting to get an RGB overlord with a Warglave emitter. I really like the Overlord body, buyt prefer the Warglave emitter's windows (and the claws are cool) as well as the choke point at the base of the emitter.
I also was contemplating a Dark Warglave emitter with claws at the base of the saber.
This however makes for a Looong saber.
I actually purchased a Dark Warglave emitter last week, and put it on my Dominix V3 with sound. It is a very simple "customization" but It makes the hilt much longer (although the lower choke now is a good point of single handed grip) and really looks cool. The sound is especially loud with it too...
I included a picture of it in my small saber rack upstairs. What do you think?

Because of the length of the Overlord, I am considering going with the Dark Shock RGB instead so I can do the Warglave emitter on top, and the Dark Warglave emitter with claws on the bottom.

I think I just finished my dueling clubs patch design.
I kept it somewhat simple and decided to go with a rocker that goes beneath our Kung Fu school's crest (patch). When I am sure I am done I will post a picture of that too :-)

Thanks again,
Sifu John

(http://twindragonnh.webstarts.com/uploads/Saber_Rack_3_small.jpg)


Hi Sifu John.  Good to see you back and hope all is well.  I recently purchased the RGB dark Shock which looks awesome.  Using a Raven SS pommel with it.  The total length is 13".  With the Shock pommel length is 13.5".  Hilt body only without emitter and pommel is 9.75".   Regular Shock from pommel to emitter is 11".  Hilt body only is 7.25".   

It's a long saber but lighter with good two hand grips and fairly evenly balanced depending upon blade used.  There is a 4th master switch.  I kept the buttons all the same for continuity instead of an av master switch.  If ordering with sound and FoC, the flash comes in AS or FO only.  If you decide upon this one, asking for a currently free to trial Obsidian V4 upgrade would be fantastic to instantly change the sound fonts to match blade colors.  Suggest asking for all guarded switches to be the same, as the three color buttons will have the silver center and the master all black.  Also placing the covertec wheel underneath, closer to pommel rather than on either side, will provide a nice clean line.  I'm really pleased with mine.  Using an UE blade.  Hope this helps.   :)

The Overlord regular length is 12.25" and RGB is 13.5"  Warglave specs unknown to me, but I have the regular hilt part only.  Is slightly over 7.5".  The RGB hilt body only is 9.5".  Both of these sabers have the additional RGB master switch.  The RGB Shock and Warglave empty hilt bodies can be purchased for a custom build.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Dauntless Seven on March 14, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Hi again.  Sending healing energies to you and yours.  The RGB Dark Shock hilt body with the Warglave clawed emitters will look fantastic.  Suggest silver with the black claws on both ends.  I think that there could be a photo of a dark saber with this set up in the gallery section but not entirely sure.  The Overlord is a beauty, but as you mentioned, quite long.  The Warlord hilt is unremarkable if not for the claws and pommel.

Nice job with the Dominix v3.  Wow, that makes it one long saber.  Have you though of using it with yari extensions.  Your rack and growing saber collection are fine indeed and you deserve a point.  I am really liking my v4 Initiate.  Conflicted about the windowed emitter for dueling but like the blade color shining through.  Looking forward to seeing your club patch design.  How exciting and things seem to be coming together.  Hopefully a video will also be in the works.  :D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Sifu John on March 14, 2015, 06:40:06 PM
Hi Dauntless,
We do have quite a collection of sabers.
I think I ordered saber # 32 last week.
Now granted some were purchased for students, some were purchased for myself, each of my two sons, and the wife, and some were purchased for the Quoon (to be used by students of the saber club that had not yet purchased their own), but we do have quite a few about the place.
My 29 saber rack is nearly full during saber class, and the 15 saber rack I have in our living room is getting full too (I keep a few extra Blades there in the back just in case ;-) ).

We have a Dark Initiate V4 with Windows that is great.
There is a half choke below the emitter that makes a decent hold point, and the windows are sharp looking.
Thus far it has held up quite well during dueling.
Although I stress care during the duels, and partner work, we are by no means gentle.
We have certainly put the sabers through their paces these past few months.

I video just about every class and dueling session, so we are working on a new video.
I have only used the Dominix with the Warglave "emitter pommell" twice for class now, but it does balance nicely at what is now the center choke, and I have enough room for all the maneuvers that way. I just need to be aware of my blade placement when I make contact with another saber.

I am still strongly thinking about the overlord, but the Dark shock is a very close second.

I will keep you "posted" ;-)
Have a great evening,
Sifu John


Hi again.  Sending healing energies to you and yours.  The RGB Dark Shock hilt body with the Warglave clawed emitters will look fantastic.  Suggest silver with the black claws on both ends.  I think that there could be a photo of a dark saber with this set up in the gallery section but not entirely sure.  The Overlord is a beauty, but as you mentioned, quite long.  The Warlord hilt is unremarkable if not for the claws and pommel.

Nice job with the Dominix v3.  Wow, that makes it one long saber.  Have you though of using it with yari extensions.  Your rack and growing saber collection are fine indeed and you deserve a point.  I am really liking my v4 Initiate.  Conflicted about the windowed emitter for dueling but like the blade color shining through.  Looking forward to seeing your club patch design.  How exciting and things seem to be coming together.  Hopefully a video will also be in the works.  :D



Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Riq on March 16, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
Does anyone know the hilt body diameter of Archon v2.1, both at the grooved grip as well as at the plain surface? Thank you in advance.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: jedikiller on December 01, 2015, 09:48:03 AM
I want a saber that I could hold with one hand but could hold on to with both hands so I was wondering what would be the best length and width for that saber.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Darth Vaalkash on December 13, 2015, 05:38:22 AM
Hello ! I would like to know what lightsaber I should buy if I want a saber that can be one handed wielded ( for Makashi  ;D ) and has a great balance for quick swings and thrusts ! I love your sabers and considered buying the mantis from you but it seems quite heavy and wide so I wanted to know if this is a good choice or if there's a better one for me ^^.
Thank you for your amazing work and may the force be with you  ;)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: covertspy2556 on December 16, 2015, 08:51:36 AM
does anyone have the dimensions for the US flamberge?? :D especially the thickness of the handle, i have small hands  :-\


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths) Consular
Post by: ManuxtheFox on February 03, 2016, 07:44:02 AM
Does anyone know the diameter and weight of the Consular hilt with and without shroud? I'll be getting one this summer, but I'd like to know approximately how it'll feel before hand. Thanks! ;D


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Nichsherer on February 23, 2016, 10:39:55 AM
Hey guys, I'm looking to buy my first saber (bellicose with pike extension) but I wanted to buy a saber for my daughter at the same time. The issue I'm running into is that she is small. 6yo about 3'/3.5' tall. She has expressed interest in the sunriders destiny color at 24" blade. But I am stumped as to what hilt to get her that will be short enough.
So the question at hand, what is a good short hilt, that she could start with? Preferably something that isn't very large in diameter either.
Thank you all in advance!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Karmack on February 23, 2016, 11:19:54 AM
Hey!  Your best bet would be an Initiate V4 or Apprentice V4.  The "dark" versions of those look great with SRD, but the "light" versions are good as well.  The choke points should allow her to grip it without difficulty even at six.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Rathayatra on May 09, 2016, 07:47:30 AM
thanks -- help with selecting another saber .   


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Dragon Two on May 26, 2016, 04:27:54 PM
What is the inside diameter of the Apprentice v4?  I want to make sure that a USB power bank I want to install in it isn't too wide.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Dino27 on August 06, 2016, 04:35:31 PM
Thank so much for posting hilt-lengths! It's really good info to have, for planning saber purchases, and mixing and matching parts.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Lord Japarco on August 24, 2016, 07:46:52 AM
Hi everyone... I've just mesured my Guardian and it is 13,375"(aproximation) long from the tip of the emitter to the bottom of the pommel, and I wanted to post this becaus I've always thought the Guardian was 13", but it is a bit longer...


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Lord Japarco on August 24, 2016, 08:18:12 AM
And it is 1,5" wide, but  only on the grip section and a small space for one finger just under the emmiter, in most parts of the shroud, specially the emmiter its about 1,75" wide...


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Jediseth on March 23, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
Does anyone know how wide around the Shock is? It looks really fat around to me, but it could just be an illusion with all the rings going around it. It says the length is 12.25 inches, but there is no mention of the width.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: RevanKnight on June 28, 2017, 06:57:48 PM
Ok what are the internal dimensions?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: bandit16 on August 14, 2017, 10:10:10 AM
Anybody Know the Diameter of the raven? trying to build my first saber and the "contact us" option was useless. They flat out refused to help me. Thanks!!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Darth_Eclipse on February 15, 2018, 08:03:12 PM
Thanks for the helpful tips


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Malik Thanewulf on March 12, 2018, 12:55:32 PM
I appreciate your hard work. Light side points given.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: theAfanc on March 22, 2018, 03:06:51 PM
So is it still safe to say that the Initiates are the shortest hilt?


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Saso Is-kor on March 22, 2018, 03:30:24 PM
So is it still safe to say that the Initiates are the shortest hilt?

The Initiate V2's in particular, very safe to say.  ;)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: DarkSIthWolf on March 22, 2018, 09:45:32 PM
Does anyone have the inside measurements for the hilts?

I was looking at the Dominix V2 and V4

I am moding a set and need the measurements before I buy.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: gummybear on May 30, 2018, 11:47:33 PM
Hi, I am looking for a hilt which has an internal diameter of at least 1.5 inch for my DIY build for holding the electronics. Any recommendation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

May the Hilt be with us


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Frizzenflyer on June 02, 2018, 06:19:39 AM
Does anyone have the inside measurements for the hilts?

I was looking at the Dominix V2 and V4

I am moding a set and need the measurements before I buy.

Internal diameter on a V2 saber is 1.15 inches (29mm)

Fun fact: thread pitch on the V2s is 28 tpi.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Infinit01 on June 19, 2018, 02:34:37 PM
Thanks for the info, I'll send you measurements for my Dark Initiate V4 when it gets in. Light side point for you


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Infinit01 on July 17, 2018, 11:39:32 AM
Also threw these into a Excel spreadsheet.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/hxz7m386a94fy7i/US%20Hilt%20Measurements%20-%20Lengths%20and%20Widths.xlsx?dl=0


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Forever on September 21, 2018, 05:58:00 AM
I own a warglaive and it is a beast and super massive. I have small hands.


My warglaive is a 2 handed lightsaber for me lol.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Sith Lord on April 04, 2019, 03:49:25 AM
Can someone please 100% confirm the width of the Aeon V2? It looks to be the thinnest, but want to confirm as it's for my 6yo son.

I've read that it is 1.25", but the measurement in the description says 1.45"

https://ultrasabers.com/product/the-aeon-v2/

Interested in the wider section, plus the thinner choke points if possible.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on December 06, 2019, 03:29:38 AM
Since I've got a bit of time to kill (and maybe a OCD-thingie with a love of Excel wich might be developping) I made a little sheet with all the measurements and inspiration of all the current sabers.

Unfortunately I couldn't find all the specs.

I still need the hilt thickness (or width) of these sabers:
Archon v.21
Bane
Bellicose
Catalyst
Consular
Fallen
Monarch
Overlord
Raven
Shock
War Glaive

And if someone does have the weight (without blade) of a few sabers I can add those as well.

If someone wants to see the sheet, hopefully this link will work:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3nqqidr6p95or8b/Wapen%20Overzicht%20Lightsabers.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3nqqidr6p95or8b/Wapen%20Overzicht%20Lightsabers.pdf?dl=0)

It's currently a pdf. But I will share the entire XLS when it's finished. So everybody else with a bit of love for numbers, comparrison, and a list of complete specifications can enjoy.

And yes there's another tab in the XLS with all the measurements in cm, I'm Dutch and we do use the metric system.




Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Cyclops942 on December 06, 2019, 09:50:28 AM
Since I've got a bit of time to kill (and maybe a OCD-thingie with a love of Excel wich might be developping) I made a little sheet with all the measurements and inspiration of all the current sabers.

Unfortunately I couldn't find all the specs.

I still need the hilt thickness (or width) of these sabers:
Archon v.21
Bane
Bellicose
Catalyst
Consular
Fallen
Monarch
Overlord
Raven
Shock
War Glaive

And if someone does have the weight (without blade) of a few sabers I can add those as well.

If someone wants to see the sheet, hopefully this link will work:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3nqqidr6p95or8b/Wapen%20Overzicht%20Lightsabers.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3nqqidr6p95or8b/Wapen%20Overzicht%20Lightsabers.pdf?dl=0)

It's currently a pdf. But I will share the entire XLS when it's finished. So everybody else with a bit of love for numbers, comparrison, and a list of complete specifications can enjoy.

And yes there's another tab in the XLS with all the measurements in cm, I'm Dutch and we do use the metric system.

  Fallen - Overall length: 47-3/8", or 120.3cm (with 36"/91.4cm blade)
  Fallen - Hilt including shrouds: 16-1/4", or 41.3cm
  Fallen - Hilt disregarding shrouds: 14-3/4", or 37.5cm

  Fallen - Hilt diameter: 1-1/2" or ~3.8cm
  Fallen - Shroud diameter: 2.5" or ~6.3cm

  Fallen with Diamond, Li-Ion w/buck puck, internal charging port, 36" UEHG blade:  31.8oz, or 900g
  Fallen with Diamond, Li-Ion w/buck puck, internal charging port, no blade:  22.5oz, or 638g

I gave you a point for going to the trouble of putting this together.  Let me know if you want info on any of my other hilts (see signature for list).


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on December 07, 2019, 02:12:46 AM
  Fallen - Overall length: 47-3/8", or 120.3cm (with 36"/91.4cm blade)
  Fallen - Hilt including shrouds: 16-1/4", or 41.3cm
  Fallen - Hilt disregarding shrouds: 14-3/4", or 37.5cm

  Fallen - Hilt diameter: 1-1/2" or ~3.8cm
  Fallen - Shroud diameter: 2.5" or ~6.3cm

  Fallen with Diamond, Li-Ion w/buck puck, internal charging port, 36" UEHG blade:  31.8oz, or 900g
  Fallen with Diamond, Li-Ion w/buck puck, internal charging port, no blade:  22.5oz, or 638g

I gave you a point for going to the trouble of putting this together.  Let me know if you want info on any of my other hilts (see signature for list).


Thanks alot.
I migh ask for the wight of those sabers in the near future. My first goal is getting the hilt measurements complete.
Because I fear there are alot of different variables with the weight, AAA, Li-Ion, Buckpuck or not, wich soundboard, etc. But who knows, maybe my mind thinks of an easy sollution and we can have complete overview of specs.




Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Galef on December 28, 2019, 09:56:46 PM
I'm sorry if this was answered earlier, but what is the width of the Initiate/Aeon v2s?
I read earlier in the thread that they are 1.25", but is that the thinnest or thickest part?
I'm planning on modifying them with PVC pipe and I need to know both the thinnest (handle grip/pommel/choke point) and thickest (emitter/area with button) measurements please.

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Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Cyclops942 on December 29, 2019, 10:56:32 AM
I'm sorry if this was answered earlier, but what is the width of the Initiate/Aeon v2s?
I read earlier in the thread that they are 1.25", but is that the thinnest or thickest part?
I'm planning on modifying them with PVC pipe and I need to know both the thinnest (handle grip/pommel/choke point) and thickest (emitter/area with button) measurements please.

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Thickest part of cylinder: 1.375
Thinnest part of cylinder: 1.25
Total thickness, including protected switch: 1.5

Sorry, but I cant tell you the measurements using an AV switch, because both my Initiate v2 sabers have the protected switch.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Galef on December 29, 2019, 12:18:16 PM
Thickest part of cylinder: 1.375
Thinnest part of cylinder: 1.25
Total thickness, including protected switch: 1.5

Sorry, but I cant tell you the measurements using an AV switch, because both my Initiate v2 sabers have the protected switch.
Greatly appreciated!

I found a video in which someone used PVC to modify their Aeon v2 with the exact size PVC that I use in my homemade sabers (with cheap store bought toy sabers as a core).
Since the V2s aren't compatible with the MHS quick change coupler, that's the route I'm gonna go.

It's nice to know that once my stunt sabers arrive, all I have to do is wrap a bit of electrical tape at the middle and insert them into my handles that are already made.
My Jedi character uses paired shoto-style sabers that can connect as a short staff.

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Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on April 09, 2020, 08:42:21 AM
Updated the list a while back, thought I'd allready posted here, found out I didn't so here it is.

If someone knows the weights, I can add that as well. Gram of oz, Excell will convert both ways ;)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtdxc5k62ki1itg/Weapon%20Overview%20Lightsabers.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtdxc5k62ki1itg/Weapon%20Overview%20Lightsabers.pdf?dl=0)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Baldewicz on May 03, 2020, 11:44:23 AM
Looking for details on the brood guard hilt.

 Im looking to make a forearm cane from a saber but need the measurement from the base on the handle (90 degrees to the hilt on the brood guard) to the bottom of the hilt to be able to determine how long the blade would need to be for the cane.

Also how far does the blade go into the hilt (Example 30 inch blade Goes in 2 inches for 28 inches visible)?

This would be my first real saber so if anything Im saying or if something sounds like a bad idea, please stop me from my quarantine madness.


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: firehand10k on May 03, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Looking for details on the brood guard hilt.

 Im looking to make a forearm cane from a saber but need the measurement from the base on the handle (90 degrees to the hilt on the brood guard) to the bottom of the hilt to be able to determine how long the blade would need to be for the cane.

Also how far does the blade go into the hilt (Example 30 inch blade Goes in 2 inches for 28 inches visible)?

This would be my first real saber so if anything Im saying or if something sounds like a bad idea, please stop me from my quarantine madness.

If I understand  your question right its 10.5 inches. The screws near the emitter are LED module retention screws (there is no switch to wedge it against) so the blade insert is about 3.5 inches. Precise adjustment will vary.

(https://i.ibb.co/6WCzvN3/20200503-162501.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCMb4wX)

Interestingly, the Brood Guard is just an Initiate V4 without a switch hole attached to the tonfa adapter. The threading for the two sections is MHS compatible so the length you asked for could be adjusted through use of other hilts and adapters or TCSS parts.

(https://i.ibb.co/WkTHbnT/15885448818422597107228217764169.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7n9Swv9)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Baldewicz on May 03, 2020, 04:07:20 PM
If I understand  your question right its 10.5 inches. The screws near the emitter are LED module retention screws (there is no switch to wedge it against) so the blade insert is about 3.5 inches. Precise adjustment will vary.


Yes, this is exactly what I needed. Thank you!


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Infinit01 on May 04, 2020, 04:12:57 AM
I've actually never seen the Brood Guard disassembled before, thank you for showing that, firehand


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: MVHI JEDI on August 17, 2020, 05:13:37 PM
So much saber envy here....  everyone measuring their sabers.  So macho.   ;)


Title: Re: Hilt Measurements (Lengths & Widths)
Post by: Cyclops942 on August 17, 2020, 05:30:08 PM
So much saber envy here....  everyone measuring their sabers.  So macho.   ;)

Literal LOL from me here.  Good one!