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Author Topic: SUICIDE SQUAD - NON-SPOILER REVIEW  (Read 1767 times)
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« on: August 08, 2016, 11:34:28 PM »

PLEASE NOTE - THE FOLLOWING IS A SPOILER FREE REVIEW. I WILL NOT REVEAL ANY MAJOR PLOT POINTS FROM THE MOVIE.

The DC Cinematic Universe….what is there to say? Fans are spilt. Critics are undecided. Some Marvel fanboys are laughing while others are willing DC to knock it out of the park because when Dc wins, we all win. After two divisive entries in the DCU with Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman, attention has turned to the latest offering, Suicide Squad. Featuring an unusual premise, lesser known characters (apart from Harley Quinn and Deadshot) and a killer soundtrack designed to rival Guardians of the Galaxy, will this be the movie that finally brings fans and critics together in a celebration of great and enjoyable cinema?

The story/plot
Government agent Amanda Waller puts together an unorthodox team to combat unknown extraterrestrial and meta-human threats to the world.

Overall opinion
Let me start by saying this movie is very different in tone to MOS and BvS. While still be dark, it is much lighter than those other two movies. And much more enjoyable. The chemistry between the cast is incredible, with some real stand out performances from Will Smith, Margot Robbie and Viola Davies. The soundtrack too is awesome, a vibrant mix of classic and modern rock, pop and old skool RnB/hip-hop. Throw in some amazing visual effects and practical make-up (I'm looking at you Killer Croc) and you have the building blocks for a successful movie. Right?
Unfortunately, the sum of it's parts does not create a satisfying overall film. The main problem with the film is the plot is too unoriginal and generic (big glowy portal thingy in the sky threatens everything unless the team find a way to stop it, after shooting/slicing & dicing/bludgeoning their way through hoards of nameless mind controlled canon fodder. Oooooo!). Some of the editing, especially during the end of the first third/beginning of the second third of the movie was sloppily done and very jarring. However, despite all this, the movie was much more enjoyable to watch than BvS, in my opinion. That was probably because this movie spent a decent amount of time developing some of the characters through creative flashbacks.

The Performances
Will Smith - Deadshot
The Fresh Prince of Bel Air has come a long way from the days of annoying and perplexing Uncle Phil. He has developed into a bonafide A-list movie star, all charm, charisma and big ears. However, in recent years, his career seemed to have faltered slightly. It happens to every actor, but there were some who questioned whether Will would ever be able to successful distance himself from "Will Smith" and all his "Will Smithinessisms" in a role. He proved it last year with Concussion and does so even more successfully here. Not once did I think i was watching Will Smith. He WAS Deadshot. And to his credit, he really fit in well with the ensemble cast, never over-powering anyone with his persona or acting chops. All in all, a joy a to watch and a welcome addition to the DCU. I cannot wait to see more from this character in future movies.

Margot Robbie - Harley Quinn
Harley Quinn. A sidekick character originally created for the awesome 90s animated Batman series that proved so popular she as brought into the comics and has since gone on to become one of the most successful characters in the DC line-up (as well as an inspiration to cosplayers everywhere).
Margot Robbie does a great job of bringing the character to life. Kooky and unpredictable, but underneath it all a sense of vulnerability that leaves you equal parts being scared of her, wanting to hug her and laughing at her comments. There are some whose first exposure to the character came from the extremely successful Arkham video games. Robbie was wise not to try and copy that portrayal (there are some who find Harley in the games really annoying). Personally, I thought she could have done a little moor with her voice, but that's just a personal preference.

Viola Davies - Amanda Waller
Without a doubt the best and most intimidating character in the whole movie. Cold, calculating and not fazed by anything or anyone. She does some things in the movie that leave you saying "Damn, woman. That was cold!". Amazing performance and cannot wait to see where she pops up next in the DCU.


Jai Courtney - Captain Boomerang
There are those who do not like Jai Courtney. There are those who would say he can't act. There are those who said he was awful as John McClane's son in Die Hard 5 and ruined the character of Kyle Reese in Terminator: Genisys. And I agree with those people. However (and I cannot believe I am saying this), Jair Courtney was actually really REALLY good in this movie. Really funny, although he could have been given a little more to do. But he was a joy to watch anytime he was on-screen.

Jay Hernandez - El Diablo
Tasked with being the "tortured one" of the group, Hernandez gave a really strong performance as a character who wants to atone for an unforgivable crime. I occasionally found the facial tattoos distracting during his dialogue scenes, but all was forgiven once he started to use his powers and kick some ass.

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbale
You may know him better as Mr Echo from Lost. The prosthetics and make-up for his character was amazing, although he wasn't given much dialogue during the film and his character wasn't really developed well (and they never explained his condition properly either).

Joel Kinnaman - Rick Flagg
"The world's best special forces soldier", as the de facto leader of the squad, Kinnaman is believable enough and suitably imposing as Flagg. He has a "love story" of sorts, but I found it unconvincing.

Jared Leto - Some guy called "The Joker"
When Jack Nicholson was first announced at the Joker it was met with pretty much universal acceptance. He went on to give a memorable performance. When Heath Ledger was announced as the Joker, the internet almost melted as keyboards around the world heated up from fanboys typing their derision at the casting choice. And then he gave an Oscar winning transformative performance, hailed by everyone far and wide as THE defining portrayal of the character in live action. Jared Leto had big shoes to fill. Some really big shoes to fill. And to his credit, he was good. However, he was not in the movie enough to give a lasting impression as to whether he would be better than Legder or not. Visually he looked interesting and his mannerisms were dangerously unpredictable. He strayed close to the line of "trying too hard" but never fully crossed it. I am definitely looking forward to seeing him in other movies.

Cara Delevigne - Enchantress
As June Moone (the human host) Delevigne did a great job of portraying the horror of an individual possessed by the spirit of a witch. (Some of) The Enchantress effects looked amazing and eerie. However, she didn't really do much and was never really threatening. At all. It's a sad state of affairs when Amanda Waller, a human character with no powers, is more intimidating than a super powerful witch.

The effects
Some great CGI work, although you can tell the Synder input with the odd slo-mo scene. Also, once you seen once big energy portal vortex thingy, it kind of loses it's wow factor.

The action
Some of the earlier action scenes were really well done, especially those with Deadshot.

Other stuff
There is a mid-credit scene.

Very little score as they decided to use the aforementioned pop/rock/hip-hip songs instead.

Final verdict
This had all the makings of a great movie and could very easily have been as big a hit for DC as Guardians of the Galaxy was for Marvel. However, since the release it has come out that there was a lot of studio interference, as wells David Ayer only having 6 weeks to write the script and it shows in some places.

By constantly using classic and modern rock, pop and old skool RnB/hip-hop, I think they were trying too hard to capture some of that retro GOTG feel good factor. The big difference between that movie and this was the GOTG soundtrack fit the storytelling and pacing of what was on screen at the time and didn't feel forced in there. This soundtrack was almost over-powering at times. I loved the music choices, but it was just always there, all the time.

I really enjoyed this movie, but only because I lowered my expectations after reading a few reviews. I think the critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes is quite harsh. It's not the greatest comic book movie by any stretch of the imagination, but is nowhere near as bad as some people would have you believe.

My Movie rating system
10- Citizen "F*%king" Kane (A+)
9- Bloody Great (A)
8- Really rather good (A-)
7- Pretty decent (B+)
6- Definitely above average (B)
5- Middle of the road average (C)
4- Mediocre (D)
3- Meh (E)
2- Crap (F)
1- Why the hell did I waste my my time and money of this abomination (unrated)
Score - 7.6/10

After-thought: Future of the Franchise
Is DC trying to do too much to quickly in order to catch up with Marvel?
Will the poor critics reviews affect the box office and, by extension, the future of the franchise?
Can Wonder Woman be the movie to finally put the DCU on the map?
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 11:48:50 PM »

Dang, dude.  You know how to write a review.  -1, as always, for going to this much work and for no spoilers.

To be honest, this movie doesn't really look good to me.  Though, I'll give it a shot when it comes out on disc or streaming.  It may surprise me.

As for whether or not the reviews will affect the bix office, not so far.  It opened up with a new August record.  Though, BvS opened up huge only to "fail" by movie standards.  Though, that was due more to viewer reviews and word of mouth, I think.  But, we'll see with this one.  It may keep it up, it may fall hard like BvS did.
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 11:55:41 PM »

This was a ton of fun, and I agree with the score you gave it. Good review. +1

(BTW, you're missing a bracket on Joel Kinnaman. If you don't get it in time, let me know if you need it fixed. Smiley)
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2016, 12:11:32 AM »

Dang, dude.  You know how to write a review.  -1, as always, for going to this much work and for no spoilers.

To be honest, this movie doesn't really look good to me.  Though, I'll give it a shot when it comes out on disc or streaming.  It may surprise me.

As for whether or not the reviews will affect the bix office, not so far.  It opened up with a new August record.  Though, BvS opened up huge only to "fail" by movie standards.  Though, that was due more to viewer reviews and word of mouth, I think.  But, we'll see with this one.  It may keep it up, it may fall hard like BvS did.
thanks you. i really enjoy writing these reviews.
and if you're a fan of comic books, i will say you will find the movie enjoyable (compared to other DC movies). just go in expecting a weak villain and very little Joker

This was a ton of fun, and I agree with the score you gave it. Good review. +1

(BTW, you're missing a bracket on Joel Kinnaman. If you don't get it in time, let me know if you need it fixed. Smiley)
thanks for pointing out the missing bold bracket.
i wouldn't say it was tons of fun, but it was definitely enjoyable. pacing dragged a bit in places. but is definitely the best DCU movie so far IMO.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2016, 02:00:04 AM »

Great review, Knox! I saw the movie last Thursday, and honestly left the theater feeling pretty disappointed. As you said, the soundtrack felt less like GotG and more like they were cramming it down your throat. Overall, several of the cast members gave amazing performances, I didn't quite lose sight that it was Will Smith playing a character but his chemistry with Margot Robbie really helped. Jared Leto as the Joker is a love/hate feeling for me. For the first time on the big screen, Joker actually felt like the Clown Prince of Crime. Know what I mean? Nicholson's Joker was more of a mobster unhinged, he didn't feel like the big guy controlling everyone else underground. Same for Ledger's, they both got stuff done, but they had their own agendas and didn't really seem like they controlled Gotham's crime. Leto's Joker definitely seems like the guy other crime lords fear and kneel to. However, it's really hard to get past his tattoo's and cringe worthy laugh, the laugh of which never seemed to change at all except for once.

My biggest gripe though is the Enchantress. Don't wanna spoil anything, but I feel like Waller SHOULD have had a counter measure to ensure what did happen shouldn't have happened in the first place. For a character who seemed to be in control at all times, Amanda Waller really dropped the ball there. And the reasoning behind creating Task Force X makes sense, but what doesn't make sense is who was added into the team. Waller says (in the trailer, mind you, so this isn't a spoiler), that she wants to create a team to ensure if an event like Superman were to happen again, she'd have a team of meta humans to act as a sort of defense. But Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot, and Rick Flag are all ordinary people with ordinary-ish abilities. Take away Harley's bat, Boomerang's boomerang, and Deadshot's guns and you're left with a team of criminals with nothing to really show for it. Lastly, some of the character's motivation didn't make sense, again not gonna spoil, so I'll leave it a that.

Overall, I left the film wanting more. The trailers, especially the second with Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody, got me hyped for the movie, moreso after the unfortunate BvS. I REALLY wanted SS to succeed, unfortunately it didn't deliver for me. My rating would probably be a 5, not great but not terrible.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2016, 10:30:46 AM »

I agree with everything you're saying Scrub. It's a bit hard to say more without spoiling anything, but yeah, Enchantress.......Bad.

I was watching Collider Heroes and they talked about the movie and one of the guests said something really interesting. In Soderbergh's Ocean's 11 remake with Clooney, Pitt, Damon etc, you get a real sense of the team, their individual backgrounds, why they are on the team and what skills they bring to the heist. That was something that was missing from this film. Certain characters ar chosen for the squad, but you have no understanding as to why, other than "they're bad guys".

Although I know David Ayer has been quoted as saying there is a difference between someone who is "bad" and someone who is "evil". Bad guys can possibly be redeemed. Someone who is evil cannot. Interesting thought
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