My Superhero can beat up your Superhero!

[Master Bluespike74]

Capt. for the win!

[Master Rel]

Nightwing!



Powers/Abilities

Nightwing is best described as a mid-twenty-year-old man at his peak in mind, body, and soul. His critical thinking and deducting matches up to that of Batman, as does his fighting ability and general crime-fighting attitude. Nightwing excels in agility and acrobatics, so much so as to be referred to as the greatest human acrobat in the DC universe. His training with his family, The Flying Graysons, helped build his strength, stamina and agility at a very young age. Nightwing is currently the only one on Earth capable of doing a quadruple somersault thanks to his time spent at the circus. He is fluent in seven major languages, and is familiar in many others thanks to teachings by Bruce. Nightwing is an excellent strategist and has often brought heroes together showing great leadership skills, which surpass that of Batman’s.

Equipment/Vehicles

Nightwing’s suit is made of fire-resistant material, is insulated against electricity, and is well-protected with triple-weave Kevlar. His suit is also light sensitive, darkening in the light to help keep him hidden. The suit also has certain inlays, giving him extra defense and freedom of movement with all that he carries. His mask, which is held by a type of adhesive (spirit gum), includes a radio transmitter and receiver, and is even capable of going into night-vision. His suit can dispatch wings to enable him to glide or fly when necessary. Nightwing’s items are stored within his gauntlets and boots, each with eight compartments. Should someone try to use his toys against him, like Batman’s utility belt, they’ll be shocked by a charge within the gauntlets and boots, and possibly self-destruct. Nightwing carries with him smoke pellets, his own version of batarangs (wing-dings), tracers, a 100,000 volt stun-gun, flares, a mini-computer, a mini-cell phone, first-aid kit, lockpick, grappling hook, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Nightwing's primary weapons of choice are a pair of Escrima sticks, which he can retrieve from his back. They are unbreakable, great for defense, and can do damage in the right hands.

Nightwing generally rides in a modified motorcycle. He did create his own Batmobile, called the Nightbird, but that was destroyed from Blockbuster’s assault on Grayson’s apartment.


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Captain America




Captain America has no superhuman powers, although as a result of the Super-Soldier Serum and "Vita-Ray" treatment, he is transformed from a frail young man into a "perfect" specimen of human development and conditioning. Captain America's strength, endurance, agility, speed, reflexes, durability, and healing are at the zenith of natural human potential. Rogers' body regularly replenishes the super-soldier serum; it does not wear off.

The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary human being. This accounts for many of his extraordinary feats, including bench pressing 1200 pounds (545 kg) and running a mile (1.6 km) in 73 seconds (49 mph/78 kph).[86] Furthermore, his enhancements are the reason why he was able to survive being frozen in suspended animation for decades. Rogers cannot become intoxicated by drugs, including alcohol, or by impurities in the air and is immune to terrestrial diseases. He is also highly resistant to hypnosis or gases that could limit his focus.

Rogers' battle experience and training make him an expert tactician and an excellent field commander, with his teammates frequently deferring to his orders in battle. Thor has stated that Rogers is one of the very few humans he will take orders from and follow "through the gates of Hades". Rogers' reflexes and senses are also extraordinarily keen. He has blended judo, western boxing, kickboxing, and gymnastics into his own unique fighting style and is a master of multiple martial arts. Years of practice with his near-indestructible shield make him able to aim and throw it with almost unerring accuracy. His skill with his shield is such that he can attack multiple targets in succession with a single throw or even cause a boomerang-like return from a throw to attack an enemy from behind. In canon, he is regarded by other skilled fighters as one of the best hand-to-hand combatants in the Marvel Universe, limited only by his human physique. Although the super-soldier serum is an important part of his strength, Rogers has shown himself still sufficiently capable against stronger opponents, even when the serum has been deactivated reverting him to his pre-Captain America physique.


Nightwing  1

Capt America  1

[TheHobbitofDune]

Nightwing.

[Master VorNach]

Captain America has no superhuman powers, although as a result of the Super-Soldier Serum and "Vita-Ray" treatment, he is transformed from a frail young man into a "perfect" specimen of human development and conditioning. Captain America's strength, endurance, agility, speed, reflexes, durability, and healing are at the zenith of natural human potential. Rogers' body regularly replenishes the super-soldier serum; it does not wear off.

The formula enhances all of his metabolic functions and prevents the build-up of fatigue poisons in his muscles, giving him endurance far in excess of an ordinary human being. This accounts for many of his extraordinary feats, including bench pressing 1200 pounds (545 kg) and running a mile (1.6 km) in 73 seconds (49 mph/78 kph).

FTW
No question.
Stronger, faster, more durable, at least as agile. Arguably just as effective a combatant, if not more so due to experience.
The shield. 'nuff said.

[TheHobbitofDune]

FTW
No question.
Stronger, faster, more durable, at least as agile. Arguably just as effective a combatant, if not more so due to experience.
The shield. 'nuff said.

I disagree with the bits about agility and experience, but it's totally up in the air who would come out on top as far as strength and endurance goes. Well, at least I think it would be.

[Master Rel]

I disagree with the bits about agility and experience, but it's totally up in the air who would come out on top as far as strength and endurance goes. Well, at least I think it would be.

I could argue that Nightwing is more agile due to genetics and being smaller as well as that is his thing...but experience, strength, endurance...Capt has this without a doubt...he is a super soldier...the pinnacle. 

The Nightwing advantages would be his other applications...using his strength with his agility, using his martial skills in combination with his gimmick tools, etc.



Nightwing  2

Capt America  2

[Luna]

I vote patriotically!

Despite all his gadgets and all his talents, Nightwing is at a disadvantage - he isn't Captain America

[TheHobbitofDune]

I could argue that Nightwing is more agile due to genetics and being smaller as well as that is his thing...but experience, strength, endurance...Capt has this without a doubt...he is a super soldier...the pinnacle.  

The Nightwing advantages would be his other applications...using his strength with his agility, using his martial skills in combination with his gimmick tools, etc.

Than how is the battle fair? Also, experience isn't given just because he is a super soldier. Nightwing was Batman's sidekick for more years than anyone can remember, and he became a great leader.

[BenPass]

Since I can't vote, here's how I think a fight would go down.

Venue: Open city with no pedestrians to get in the way.

Rules: None.

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Cap appears at one end of a long, straight street. Nightwing drops from a rooftop nearby to land, facing Cap. Neither one wants to risk throwing away a weapon without first testing the other in battle, so they run towards each other.

Cap charges, his full strength behind his shield which becomes a battering ram. Nightwing sees the attack and leaps over Cap's head, pivoting mid air. Cap manages to stop and redirect himself. Both challengers pause, sizing up each other.

Nightwing charges this time and as he nears, Cap leaps into the air to meet Nightwing. The former Boy Wonder instead, rolls on the ground under the Soldier. It appears that neither has a tremendous edge in speed, though Nightwing is ever so slightly faster.

Since neither has foreknowledge of the other, Nightwing doesn't know about Cap's raw strength. They approach each other and exchange blows. Nightwing reels from the onslaught, unable to avoid all attacks. He jumps back, and backflips away for more breathing room.

Cap is on him almost immediately, but Nightwing manages to get hold of his Escrima sticks. He swings at Cap's head, but the Patriot raises his shield in time to block the strike. The vibrations from the shield cause Nightwing to drop the stick in his right hand. He knows that he is no match for Cap in a direct hand to hand battle.

Captain America levels a strike at Nightwing's chest in hopes that he won't be able to duck or jump. Instead, the agile Nightwing leans back, barely avoiding the swing. Seeing that facing Cap head on is hopeless, Nightwing drops a smoke pellet and runs toward a three story building. He aims his grapnel at the roof, and begins ascending quickly.

As the former member of the Dynamic Duo scrambles over the edge of the roof, Cap throws his shield at him, having stepped out of the cloud of smoke. Though aimed true, Nightwing moves just enough to avoid the majority of the blow. Several ribs are broken through his kevlar, but he manages to regain his feet quickly. The shield had bounced off of Nightwing and back down to Cap.

Nightwing peers over the edge at his opponent. Cap is moving to regain his shield; moving quickly. Nightwing withdraws three wing-dings and throws them at blazing speed at the Super Soldier. Cap manages to avoid two of the three, but the third slices his right bicep. It won't take long for the wound to heal, but it will inhibit throwing his shield temporarily.

Cap and Nightwing stare each other down. They are at a stalemate. Nightwing only has a limited number of wing-dings, and Cap won't be able to throw faster than Nightwing can evade from three stories up. Nightwing hooks his grapnel to another building and swings down toward Cap on the street below. His only hope is the scarce edge he has in speed.

Captain America throws his shield at the descending Nightwing, hitting him square in the chest. Nightwing drops to the ground with a thump, and Cap's shield returns to his hand. Nightwing tries to crawl away, but Cap is on him almost immediately. Cap raises his shield above his head to make the final strike, but Nightwing hits him with his stun gun. Cap is filled with 100,000 volts. It isn't enough to kill the Soldier, but it does make its way through his shield and causes him to drop it.

Nightwing grabs hold of his grapnel line which is dangling in the street. He uses it to pull himself to his feet. Cap, having recovered from the shock, charges forward. Nightwing releases the line and again hits Cap with 100,000 volts, as the two collapse into a heap. Cap has more endurance, and Nightwing is battered. Captain America throws an elbow at Nightwing's head, rendering him unconscious.

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While I like both heroes and would love for Nightwing to win, I think Cap would win in a straight up fight. As others have said, both are so close in speed. Nightwing's only advantages are agility and weapons. If Cap can stop Nightwing from using his agility, there is no more hope for Nightwing. That said, it is Cap's endurance and healing that seals it for him. The stun gun alone should have dropped him, but he is so much more resistant than a normal combatant.

So, straight up fight, Cap wins. Give them both time to plan and foreknowledge of each other, then maybe it ends differently.

When it comes to popularity, please oh please vote Nightwing lol.

[Luna]

Than how is the battle fair?

Nothing is fair. No exceptions.

[TheHobbitofDune]

Nothing is fair. No exceptions.

Yeah... great idea.

Also, Ben, that was awesome Very well-detailed. Though there might have been moments where Nightwing could have avoided the shield being thrown at him.

[RLYHYPERGUY]

Yeah... great idea.

Also, Ben, that was awesome Very well-detailed. Though there might have been moments where Nightwing could have avoided the shield being thrown at him.

I actually think it was very accurate. Nightwing is still human, so he can't dodge everything. It's also pretty much impossible to dodge something while swinging on a grapnel line. I'm sure Nightwing would come back with a vengeance, anyway, like his first fight with Blockbuster. He lost that fight, but he learned from it and won the next one. I do think Cap would win in a straight up fight with each hero having no prior knowledge of each other, but my vote still goes to Nightwing because of my loyalty to him. 

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

I'm going to go with Captian America.

[BenPass]

Thanks guys. I thought a lot about it while I was writing it...I was hoping to turn it around to a Nightwing victory, but I just couldn't as a straight up, first time fight.

[Master Rel]

First off, I am a big fan of and street sweeper superhero...Nightwing is a great character and I like him quite a bit.

Second, very nice narrative Uncle Ben!

Third...

Nightwing...non-powered human adventurer with exceptional skills, martial ability, near perfect balance, world class acrobatics, great leader, tactics expert, and the tools...lots of tools.

Capt America...he is noted as non-powered but he is a powered human adventurer with the best possible aspects of what a human could physically be...fast, strong, tough, resilient, dexterity, reflexes, etc., a soldier, several lifetimes worth of superheroing, great leader, tactics expert, and the shield...ohh the shield.

I would put Nightwing at Batman's level in all areas except experience...Batman and Capt America have related experience levels.

Is the match up fair?

Superman vs Nightwing would be unfair.

But there were a couple options to go with...had to be popular, known, skilled fighter, agile, etc.

Spiderman? Daredevil? Black Panther? Punisher?

Capt America is about as fair as I could think of and make it competitive.

The fight write up could go the other way if Capt wandered into Nightwing's stomping grounds...home filed advantage could be huge for NW.

I like them both.

That is the tough aspect of hero vs hero...somebody has to lose (or tie lol).