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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2014, 10:04:19 AM »

The Monarch/Dark Monarch has been suggested to be inspired by Palpatine's 'sabres from EpIII, but it's not a close match; The flowing lines are there, but Palpy's are asymmetric.
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2014, 11:09:34 AM »

Not symmetrical? So you think Palpy might have 'sheeved' a bit off his saber here and there then?
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2014, 05:50:02 AM »

The monarch is also darth sidious/palpatine 's saber as seen in the clone wars or very simular to it 
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2014, 06:00:10 AM »

Most of these are pretty spot on, I think you got it generally.

Based on watching TFU cutscenes again and again, it seems to me that Marek's saber isn't a Bellicose, but more similar to the Graflex, at least at the top. And the Raven is Sith Stalker Starkiller's weapon.

His hilt in the first game is Graflex inspired, while the hilts seen in the promo trailer for the second game are very similar to the Bellicose.

Obi Wan also used an Archon-style saber in Ep IV ANH. It was Arctic Blue for the most part (appeared white in some scenes).


There are a bunch of difference between the Obi-Wan ROTS/ANH and Luke ROTJ, but one easy distinction is the grip.  Ben's has a grenade grip, while Luke's just has regular ridges.
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2014, 06:17:31 AM »

Ah, I haven't played TFU2 yet. And his lightsaber after Vader betrays him in TFU1 is actually Kota's. At least in the graphic novel.
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2014, 06:25:28 AM »

Ah, I haven't played TFU2 yet. And his lightsaber after Vader betrays him in TFU1 is actually Kota's. At least in the graphic novel.

Yeah, in the game he keeps his same hilt but canonically (back when TFU was whatever level of canon) he used Kota's.
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2014, 07:13:48 PM »

Hello guys,

Please confirm which saber is Kota's? (and color Wink )

Forgive my lack on knowledge, but is Galen Malek and Sith Stalker the same person? I added 2 rows for the Raven, but wasn't sure.

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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2014, 08:31:52 PM »

Ki adi mundi has a GB light saber color and he did build a purple one also
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2014, 04:21:10 AM »


This is Kota's lightsaber. I'd say Bellicose or Standard Issue with some modifications.
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2014, 01:35:40 PM »

I agree on the Standard Issue. It's similar to the Imperial Knights' lightsabres from the Legacy comic series (they all use the same hilt design, hence Standard Issue) but with the right wrapping (such as http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=21638.0 or even more so http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=21904.0) it's a close match for Kota's.

Aayla Secura used a blue blade exclusively, so far as I can tell. Ki Adi Mundi didn't use the 'Shock' 'sabre that I'm aware of (the comics are rarely consistent, but his promo shots suggest he used a different style of hilt). Other Jedi did use that general style of hilt - Adi Gallia (red, then blue), Barris Offee (blue), Bultar Swan (green), Roth-Del Masona (blue), Sar Labooda (green), Shaak-Ti (blue) and Sora Bulq  (blue, later red).

As for Palpatine's hilt, it's half-symmetrical, like the Consular and Guardian, with a gently curved and recessed grip and tilted pommel. Gorgeous design, but I imagine it's unlikely ever to have a close MHS match.

Sith Stalker is a title used for Galen Marek/Starkiller - I think specifically it refers to a set of armour he uses in the game, but it's been a while since I played so I may be wrong. I believe he's generally shown with a red blade, but I can't say without checking if that's shown on the 'Raven' hilt as he ends up with about half a dozen hanging off his belt when he's wearing the armour, and I'm not sure which one he's shown to use. I'm sure someone can check and confirm Smiley He doesn't use the hilt outside of the armour so the second title is the more accurate one, I'd say.

So far as I'm aware the other hilts listed (Catalyst, etc) don't have 'movie' matches. Happy to be proven wrong, though!
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2014, 09:23:38 PM »

If we're going by Battlefront 2, then Secura used one blue, one green, but that's probably for the game only. Here's Windu's saber pre AOTC
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/024/f/4/3d___mace_windu_lightsaber_by_araiel-d4ngr2k.jpg
Any sabers that look like that here?
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2014, 09:43:02 PM »

If we're going by Battlefront 2, then Secura used one blue, one green, but that's probably for the game only. Here's Windu's saber pre AOTC
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/024/f/4/3d___mace_windu_lightsaber_by_araiel-d4ngr2k.jpg
Any sabers that look like that here?


You want lightsabre geekery? Here you go:

The lightsabre you have there belongs to Eeth Koth. He loaned it to Windu as part of a Jedi ritual known as the Concordance of Fealty where Jedi exchange lightsabres as a sign of the deep bond of friendship and camaraderie between the pair. Windu's lightsabre in Episodes II and III would have been in Koth's possession during Ep I as part of the Concordance.

Windu would almost certainly have had a different lightsabre prior to the one he wields in the films. The use of electrum (the gold highlights) denoted a Master of high standing in the Jedi Order, one who had proven their strength and wisdom. Sidious, naturally, had his 'sabres fairly dripping in the stuff, but among the Jedi it was pretty much only Windu that had significant electrum highlights on his.

Well, Windu, and Jocasta Nu, master of the Jedi archives... Smiley

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As for replicating that 'sabre, US don't really have the parts. The Archon could maybe serve as a base for the hilt, but the emitter and pommel aren't very similar to anything US offer, so far as I'm aware.
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2014, 02:33:18 AM »

James, I presume the mentioned Blue is Guardian Blue, and the general type of hilt you mention all comes from Legacy.

And I thought I knew Star Wars coz I've seen the movies and all Clone Wars animated serie lol. Love learning! What would you suggest I take a look at, if I wanted to know more about Star Wars? (kinda liked the reference to the ritual you mentioned  Cheesy)

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2014, 03:23:17 AM »

You want lightsabre geekery? Here you go:

The lightsabre you have there belongs to Eeth Koth. He loaned it to Windu as part of a Jedi ritual known as the Concordance of Fealty where Jedi exchange lightsabres as a sign of the deep bond of friendship and camaraderie between the pair. Windu's lightsabre in Episodes II and III would have been in Koth's possession during Ep I as part of the Concordance.

Windu would almost certainly have had a different lightsabre prior to the one he wields in the films. The use of electrum (the gold highlights) denoted a Master of high standing in the Jedi Order, one who had proven their strength and wisdom. Sidious, naturally, had his 'sabres fairly dripping in the stuff, but among the Jedi it was pretty much only Windu that had significant electrum highlights on his.

Well, Windu, and Jocasta Nu, master of the Jedi archives... Smiley

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As for replicating that 'sabre, US don't really have the parts. The Archon could maybe serve as a base for the hilt, but the emitter and pommel aren't very similar to anything US offer, so far as I'm aware.

O_O You sir have outclassed me in Star Wars nerdiness. My goggles off to you.
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2014, 12:17:13 AM »

O_O You sir have outclassed me in Star Wars nerdiness. My goggles off to you.


Only when it comes to lightsabres, it must be said Cheesy

Marty, Wookiepedia is a remarkable place to get up to speed on the wider universe. A number of individual lightsabres have their own pages, even - 114 of them at present count Cheesy

Lightsabre combat is enthralling, to me at least. Otherwise, there's a lot of interlinking between the expanded universe and the films. Think of a character in the films, and they'll have shown up all over the place in the books. Han Solo's article is huge, as you'd imagine, and it can be easy to get lost in the many adventures he went on. It may be better to take a look at something a little less massive - how about an article on R2-series droids, the Rule of Two or Clone Wars character Cad Bane?

If you're interested in exploring the expanded universe, then you can jump in at pretty much any point. The books have fairly detailed timelines in them, and while it helps to read each specific series in order from the first to last book, it's not essential - my jumping on point was the 5th X-Wing book, although in that case books 1-4 and 5-7 each formed shorter arcs within the wider series. I'd suggest the Han Solo trilogy (Paradise Snare/Hutt Gambit/Rebel Dawn) as the ideal starting point for someone wanting to get into the EU - a familiar main character, who the books stick close to for virtually the whole time, and it's just a fun series with a lot of great characters in its own right. Otherwise, consider the Darth Bane trilogy (set 1,000 years before the films and is the beginning of the Sith Order's rise to power that peaks when Palpatine becomes Chancellor/Emperor) or the Thrawn Trilogy (set 5 years or so post Return of the Jedi, and which was the first real novels to be released which picked up the story of the main characters in the films).

So... maybe not just lightsabres Cheesy

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Aayla Secura & co were all prequel characters, so Eps I-III. The Shock hilts are the closest to the hilts they wielded, generally. Any reference to a blue blade for those characters will generally be Guardian Blue - there's not a huge difference, but the blue prequel blades are generally agreed to be a few shades darker than those of Luke & Obi-Wan in the original films.

Legacy is a comic series taking place c. 130+ years after Return of the Jedi. At least two characters survive through from the prequels to Legacy - being a Jedi is good for your lifespan, assuming you're not hacked apart by a Sith, or gunned down by clone troopers...
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