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« Reply #75 on: March 27, 2014, 05:28:15 AM » |
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I have been working on the dual wield obi/ani and I think I have gotten to the point where I can do 8 variations pretty reliably. I am not counting alternating full plum flowers. They are simultaneous and alternating versions of each of the following: left hand invert and right hand forward, right hand invert and left hand forward, both hands invert, and both hands forward. Additionally, each variation looks different with tight orbits as opposed to wide orbits. Expect videos soon.
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« Reply #76 on: March 29, 2014, 06:35:09 AM » |
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As promised, here is my tutorial video on the dual wield application of the inverted obi/ani. In all, it covers 8 variations. As the video states, timing is all in the shoulders. Next step:reverse grip.
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« Reply #77 on: March 29, 2014, 07:47:48 AM » |
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That inverted simultaneous move is very similar to a Poi technique that I was trying to accomplish with two sabers a while ago. It seems like you've figured out how to do it. Good job on the tutorial and the explanations.
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DARTH CH3M15T
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« Reply #78 on: March 29, 2014, 02:09:43 PM » |
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Nice work with all the obi/ani variations. Good luck with reverse grip . Hopefully today i can work on some more videos to post as theres a few moves i've been working on again. Heres the list of 5 videos i intend to post soon. so if you think you can do them already go for it.
1) Alternating plump flowers with inverted grips 2) Advanced reverse grip flowers tutorial and swapping to and from inverted grip while flowering. 3) my parallel blade technique development. 4) Simultaneous figure 8's inverted grip. and finally 5) A tutorial for all my obi ani and plumb flower variations.
Think thats it for now. I've got a bit more confident with hand passes and flips. some of the contact rolls i don't think i'll learn. It seems like its a lot of effort to do for an simple result. Theres a couple of cool looking ones but i like to spread my focus on a multitude of moves and skills. And i believe i could achieve the same amount of spins or whatever that the contact rolls achieves, but with conventional spins. I like to try and maintain a high spinning velocity so i feel less in control rolling it over my hand etc. but then i'm willing to launch my saber 12 foot in the air for some cool aerials. I dunno. Not trying to put the contact rolls down as a skill as it looks and feels and is a difficult skill to pick up. And i'm big on showboating but i just don't think i'd use them all that often. but i could be wrong i could grow to love them after some more attempts. anyways, I'll catch you all later and wish you all some good Sabering.
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« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2014, 07:35:37 PM » |
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Now for the most part I agree with this sentiment. The rolls are harder to pull off and often the results are relatively the same. The main differences in the moves are the feel (more like a pendulum then a propeller) and the fact that the rolls work better with reverse grip in some cases than the flips because of the weight distribution. On the whole though, they are a bit slower, and as mentioned, the results are very similar. The two exceptions to this are the double roll from part 9, which completes 3 rotations with greater control than trying to do 3 rotations with an areal (this would require a chain of two separate moves to do), and the 1.5 rotation grip switch from part 8. The grip switch, while it accomplishes the same goal as the switch in part 4, can accomplish it faster. With the part 4 variety, you are limited by the terminal velocity of the saber as determined by weight and drag coefficient. With the version in part 8, you are adding force to the spin allowing it to move faster than the saber could move were you to break contact. Now that you mention it, once I finish off this tutorial series, I might make a final video talking about some of these differences.
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« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2014, 03:17:08 PM » |
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Dual Saber juggling. Well chuffed i pulled this off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA3pZJ1SYeYhmmm don't think my links are showing the vids
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2014, 07:25:18 PM » |
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Very nice. You gave me something to practice. Point for that.
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« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2014, 07:32:22 PM » |
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Your links are not showing because of the https at the beginning of your link. If you remove the 's' from the end, so that it is only http, your vids will show up again.
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DARTH CH3M15T
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« Reply #83 on: March 31, 2014, 09:24:17 AM » |
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Tutorial 4.
Tutorial 5.
parallel blade technique. Think i've developed this as far as it can, as movement is pretty limited keeping them parallel. Just wish i'd chained them to other moves like the poi transitions or flowers. And i need to see what it looks like at night. lol
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2014, 01:08:31 AM » |
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I don't know if you have tried it yet, but that flip addition to the obi/ani is actually workable on a backwards obi/ani as well and actually easier to catch because of the direction of rotation. Video coming soon.
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« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2014, 01:41:06 AM » |
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I don't know if you have tried it yet, but that flip addition to the obi/ani is actually workable on a backwards obi/ani as well and actually easier to catch because of the direction of rotation. Video coming soon.
can't wait to see that. in the meantime i have done. under the leg trick. not sure if this is going too far or not. i'm sure i can get it looking more stylish and smoother.
two sabers in one hand. lol
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« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2014, 02:40:06 AM » |
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What a difference a day makes. Here is a video of the forward and reverse version of the obi/ani flip. If you are interested in trying this, get down the motion but work the timing off of the flips. Trust your hands to do what they know how to do between the flips. Towards the end I speed it up a bit by minimizing the first backwards beat and bringing it down beside my leg. Enjoy.
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« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2014, 02:49:15 AM » |
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What a difference a day makes. Here is a video of the forward and reverse version of the obi/ani flip. If you are interested in trying this, get down the motion but work the timing off of the flips. Trust your hands to do what they know how to do between the flips. Towards the end I speed it up a bit by minimizing the first backwards beat and bringing it down beside my leg. Enjoy. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd8ECEJB_Ewamazing. another awesome addition to the reverse obi ani style. i need to learn this. Thank you for pushing me to learn increasingly complex and insane saber stunts. Think i'm just going to practice everything i've learned over the past few weeks. as so many new moves have been developed. Not going to try and make up any more yet. unless one jumps out at me, which is usually the case.
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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« Reply #88 on: April 02, 2014, 04:09:20 AM » |
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Thank you for pushing me to learn increasingly complex and insane saber stunts.
Glad to do it and thanks for leading me off track into dual wield weirdness. I may take a break as well and finish up my single weapon tutorial series. I still have three more videos planned before I can consider it done.
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« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2014, 04:42:05 AM » |
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This practice video contains a building sequence from the tutorial series on using the force, building from part 1 to part 12. Inverted and regular grip are demonstrated as well as transitions.
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