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 Thanks for helping me stay calm and feel like I had a friend in the world this morning on Youtube.-Misstterr Gone. ;)
Very needed and appreciated, especially for remembering my need for Saber Nunchucks and giving me extra info without asking.
Darkside points earned for sure. And thank you Darth Cephalus for amazingly easy to follow tutorials (I can see you are a Professor) and for being so positive and always answering my questions. You said you had no advice on practicing outside in front of people, but what you said was exactly what I needed to hear and sounded like solid advice to me. Darkside points to you as well my friend. I don't feel nearly as alone anymore. Thank you guys. I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place Its been a rough morning and I know you guys come here a lot. Please let me know if there is a better place to put stuff like this. I'm just overwhelmed with joy to have people to talk to and relate to.

Hey it's no problem. We all start somewhere and it's good having people who are willing to follow up with those trying to learn. Cephalus is a really good resource and he does a lot of good saber reviews as well. And I definitely know he practices more than me nowadays. In terms of practicing outside in front of people, that is something I struggle with as well. I know I shouldn't care, but I always find myself preferring locations where I know I won't be bothered by people, even though sometimes people have spotted me practicing and been like "cool man!" This forum is pretty chill, so you can post comments/questions pretty much anywhere, as long as it is relevant to the topic you're posting in. Of course you can always private message us on the forums and there is always our YT channels, so we're always available somewhere. Thanks for the feedback.

 From Youtube
"I saw a few of your posts on the forums. There are lots of helpful people on there and many who like sharing their knowledge. Darth Cephalus and Samhain have gone into the realm of contact saber lately, which I can't keep up with, and I know Sam has recently been delving into fire staff. I haven't seen much of Darth Logos, but I know he's a cool guy. Be seeing you around on the forums."

 Thanks again. I suffer from debilitating depression most of the time and its been REALLY bad for the last couple weeks. This place, and people like you are keeping me from falling into the deepest darkness.

 So here is my problem with contact moves, I'm too afraid of breaking my sabers! I started to do rolls along 1 arm, flip it, then grab it. Even flips and hand rolls are sketchy. I was going to get a stunt saber yesterday so I wouldn't have to worry about dropping it as much, Next thing you know in my anger and frustration I ordered a Tri-Cree Fire Orange Dominix, 32 inch blade with a dark catalyst pommel V4 sound and I got them to change the AV switch to Blue Illumination on Silver (You were dead on about that one, thanks for the input). I'm so broke. I guess I will eat cardboard for the next six months. :-[
 How long have you been doing saber, staff and Nunchucks? I started sneaking someones Nunchuks when I was about 8 and after hitting my knees, elbows and head repeatedly I feel like I got pretty good. I just started doing Obi/Ani spins (I prefer "ECLIPSE") and plum flowers with my Nunchucks. Fist times I have accidentally hit myself in at least 24 years. I've recently found videos like this for saber techniques    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ-3UO2rbdM   
 I like how specific the off hand movements and overall stances are.
 Do you have combat training of any kind? Oh and as far as Darth Logos, that guy is like a Star Wars and just general all around scholar/philosopher. Super cool and funny guy.

The best way I've heard of learning contact moves is to not use a saber at all, but something else that has a good balancing point. If a saber is used, usually it needs a heavier pommel to adjust the balance point further down the hilt.

I've been spinning stuff since I was a teen. Growing up, I was a big Bruce Lee fan, which is what got me into nunchaku. I studied Jeet Kune Do and various other martial arts in my personal study, but the only one I actually took part in, was an American martial art called Shim Shin Do, which I earned a black belt in. Aside from that, most of what I've learned I've just been doing for years. My staff knowledge comes from either Ray Park or from personal trial and error, as is all my dual-wielding experience. Nunchaku I've been studying on and off for a while. If you're interested in learning more of the advanced stuff with those, definitely check out Ken Hill on YouTube. He covers a lot of the more advanced stuff that what I cover.

That's pretty rad. I learned nunchucks or nunchaku? (I've never been sure which one it is) from watching Bruce Lee too! I've never heard of Shim Shin Do. I would love to hear about it some time. I have a belt or two in Kenpo and Aikido. I also trained super informally (but for quite a while with an instructor in Tang So Do, Hapkido, Tae Kwon Do, and Hung Gar Kung Fu, him and our Navy seal friend trying together to find more street applicable ways to combine all our collective skills. I have been training with a 6 pound 43" staff for a few months but it only recently occurred to me to use it as a staff and not a saber. I think I will get on that. And Ken Hill is pretty dope. Thanks for turning me on to that guy.

If you want to work on contact moves without a saber just go grab a utility handle from Lowes or Home Depot and cut the metal end off.  On mine, I taped up the ends to give it some weight and marked the point of balance.  I think including the paint, I've got less than $15 tied up in it.  It's nothing like using something made for contact moves, but it can be done.

As for breaking the saber, yes, that's possible.  You could buy an empty of the one you'll be using to practice with.

Thank you for the Info. Nice to finally meet you, Ive heard nothing but great things about you and your skills. I planed to check out more of your videos soon at the recommendation of my current favorite teachers, Master Venturous and Darth Cephalus. I have a hard time with the idea of buying a saber without sound, but a stunt saber is definitely in my future. My saber being away for repairs, I took an extra 32" Ultraedge mid-grade blade and put it in a gutted all plastic Darth Vader hilt from the toy store. I had to remove the shroud and control box so there is less crap in the way. I added 4 metal 45 record adapters stacked at the bottom And wrapped it in electrical tape. Its really hard to use but I definitely was doing way riskier moves with it today because of not caring what happens to it. I was doing double flips, double flip and a half to reverse grip. I have a 43" 5 or 6 pound metal rod I had been using as a saber and never realized I should learn to use it as a staff. What do you think of that length and weight? Thanks for your input.

I will jump in and say this: as long as you can control the weight of the rod you want to use, then go for it. If you're going to use something heavy, you absolutely want to keep the speed really slow at first to avoid injury like hyperextending the wrist. Of course there is the saying that is always applicable, whether you use something heavy or not: "slow leads to smooth and smooth leads to fast."

I advise against using a 6lb metal rod, there are many other safer alternatives to doing that XD

 Yeah I agree. Its just something I had laying around. It makes for a good running with weights on and then taking them off effect when you get an Ultrasaber. Its exactly as long as my new Aeon V4 with a 32" blade, so I taped up to where the hilt would end and I used it for 5 months as a saber. When I got my Aeon it felt incredibly light and almost too fast. I already have messed up joints and nerves, so I still use it to gain control and strength, but I do not recommend it for others.
What weight and length do you recommend for a contact staff? If it matters I'm 5' 11". Thanks.

My wooden handle staff is 54 inches I believe and my contact sword is 45.  The new staff I'm planning on getting is 5 feet.  So no set length, but when a staff is taller than you are it can make things more difficult.  For cosplay, my lightsaber staff is longer than I am tall, so you always want to keep that sort of thing in mind when you're practicing.

Thanks for the info. :)

 Master Venturous. I will be receiving my fixed  Aeon V4 and new Dominix V4 in two days (plus a grab bag one day latter) Ive been practicing from the start with both hands. What vids do you recommend to start Jar-Kai or dual wielding? I think I saw one of you looking pretty smooth. I know I could search for myself. but I would rather have a friend help me. you and or Darth Cephalus. I'm trying not to learn from too many different sources at once, just the ones that really resonate with me. Thank you.

Here are the links to my dual saber lessons and those that Darth Cephalus has done:

Mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnCAtl7HBkI&list=PLtxs8UJy21n4f4ZmfTRmcUBloM42e69sl

Darth Cephalus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk0QTtl5SKo&list=PLf2BA9eUktwtZ31TMlxPCV--oA8BwsEqH

These are both playlists, so they should have all the videos we've done relating to dual-wielding within them.

I have to say that I found that playlist format to be a tremendous help, when I was trying to get "obi/ani". :)

-1 for that Master Venturous.  :D

 Thanks brother.
I have question. Can we all start a movement to call an Obi/Ani an Eclipse spin?
I was watching episode 3 last night and I wanted to ask everyone here, who do you think does better ECLIPSE spins Obi or Ani?

No arguments from me, but that's totally a question for the Masters to answer. :)

 Indeed.

Oh, and to answer your question:  

IMO, Anakin's is better.  Kenobi's foot shifts, indicating to me that his stance isn't as solid or firm.  Maybe that's a good thing though.  I'm far from good or knowledgeable. ;)

Edit: I guess Anakin's foot slides a bit too, but he does make it look smoother...
(https://i.imgur.com/lKKzfBs.gif)

Glad to hear too Gar-Wi Musan. :)

+1

 Awesome! i have to go watch that part again now. I never judged them myself, I just thought it would be funny to ask. LOL . This place is a blast!

 I agree. I think Anakin's ECLIPSE spin is just a bit tighter than Obi's. The foot slide has me cracking up. LOL.
Insomnia, it's Laughtastic!
Jedi dance party y'all!

Kenobi's isn't as tight, too much body movement!  XD

More often than not people get what I'm talking about when I say "Obi-Ani", I usually get more confused looks when I call it an "Eclipse"  I've even had someone come to me and ask the difference.

 What's up Sam! The difference is one sounds like baby talk, the other sounds like a legitimate move with a visual reference. Tell someone that knows nothing about Star Wars (freaks) what an Obi-Ani is then tell them "hey you understand the mechanics of an eclipse right?" then show the movement and they will say "oh, that makes sense." But also, why are we talking to people that know nothing about Star Wars?
Everyone in this topic gets points. 

Anyone who has watched my videos on it knows that I hate the term "Obi-Ani" and that I prefer the term "shoulder roll." I've heard Eclipse spin used elsewhere by others and don't have a problem with that. The problem with changing it is that almost everyone I talk to knows what I'm talking about when I say "Obi-Ani" instead of something else. I'd be in favor of starting to call it the Eclipse spin, but if we do that, then everyone who has ever done a video on it as the Obi-Ani would have to go back and redo the video on it with the new name, so that everyone who knows it by the Eclipse spin name wouldn't get confused. I don't know who came up with the Obi-Ani name, but I wish they were on the Death Star when Luke torpedoed it.

I've had a lot of fun reading this topic, and I definitely agree with "Eclipse Spin" over "Obi-Ani". The only reason I use Obi-Ani is so that people aren't confused. With people who don't know any different, I use Eclipse. And to who's is better, I definitely agree with Anakin's. it is just a little bit cleaner in all aspects (from my POV).

As far as the terminology is concerned, I'm basically trying to write my own... At least for personal use. Though I've only really got three months experience with this whole spinning thing, I think I'm progressing rather well... Need to get some time outside without pavement (or pets, and the results of pets) around where I'm not worried about taking out random walls or (further) shredding my stunt hilts (or other unpleasant occurrences) though. Anyway...

Each basic piece is labeled according to hand the saber is in (with orientation and cross-body, if applicable), direction the blade (or pommel, in case of reverse grip) is rotating relative to wielder at extension, and where the blade (or pommel) passes the body. Because technically, you can chain the 'blade passing behind the back' spin by itself, and that is what I label as an 'eclipse.' It can be darned awkward to do, especially at speed, but is possible.

Up and Down chosen for brevity... though Clock and Counter might be more accurate and less prone to confusion as up and down reverse on a cross body spin, clock and counter don't... ah well WIP...

So in short, the notation is:
Hand [grip,cross-body], Spin Direction, (thumb end) Pass

Examples:

Right, Down, Front  = basic front clockwise spin.

Right, Down, Front + Right, Down, Rear = basic clockwise figure 8

Right, Down, Rear + Right, Down, Eclipse= High-low Whip or Obi-Ani

Right, Down, Rear + Right, Down, Eclipse + Right[cross], Up, Front + Right[cross], Up, Rear = Basic Plum Flower

Right[rev,cross], Up, Rear + Right[rev,cross], Up, Front = right-handed, reverse grip, cross-body, clockwise figure eight.

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Still working on notation for grip and hand transitions, aerials, and the like... mostly because I'm still working up to most of them.

 Nice. It's a bit difficult for me to follow but I like the idea a lot. Have you tried up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start? ;)

I'm glad I'm not the only one that dislikes the term "Obi-Ani" And to what Master Venturous said about calling it a shoulder roll, I think I've seen some Shaolin Kung Fu guys calling it that, so that works fine for me too.

"I don't know who came up with the Obi-Ani name, but I wish they were on the Death Star when Luke torpedoed it."
-Master Venturous 
LOL! I may have to make that quote part of my sig.

Every time I do I have hundreds of guys from some organization called 'Red Falcon' running around, not to mention dozens of alien horror show members... It gets a bit messy.

 Whoa! When I do it, it just turns my Lightsaber rainbow. Weird.

Sorry, have to chime in hear.

The " obi - ani " has been known as the Little Flower for literally thousands of years in the Arts of Shaolin. It is a precursor technique to the Plum Blossom.

We learn 64 variations of the little flower before you even start the Plum Blossom.

Just couldn't stay quiet anymore :) :)

I was waiting for you to say something 😆

:)


It's in other arts as different names. That's why I typically stay out of conversations such as these. Everyone comes from a different walk of life.

Funny thing, when something gets popular. It shows up in other arts and that art will claim they created it. I see it all the time. The Krav Maga Art( great art by the way ) does this quite a bit. It's modified " Cave man " Kali!! I may be biased due to my background.  ;D ;D

So we're all in agreement that there are other options than "Obi-Ani" to use.  :P

Clearly!  This thread became one big, hilarious, collective nerve point🤣 made for good reading, though!🤙🏻


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What's that spin called where you do a rotation in front of yourself then one behind, and another in the opposite direction, before returning to the front again - sort of?

:P

🤭
So soon back at that tender wound!
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Well I can tell you one thing, it isn't the Obi-Ani. ;D ;)

 Exactly! Please, never stay quiet when you have an opinion to share. You will see I couldn't if I wanted to. ;)
 I noticed this as well. We are all a bunch of style thief's in my opinion. Little flower sounds awesome too. I have been watching a lot of Shaolin videos and movies to get inspiration and ideas to apply to the lightsaber. POINTS!

  Indeed! :D

 By the way, I was afraid if I brought this up I would be shunned since it is the most common term used for this move in the Lightsaber community.
I'm just stoked that it seems fairly universal that "Obi-Ani" sucks as far as a name for it.  :) I'm not saying anyone should stop using it if that is what they like or if it's easier for people to understand. If I end up good enough to make tutorials or something one day, I will never personally use it.
 You guys are all awesome! this has been entertaining as hell. ;D
Let me add to the debate if I may just for fun. Any one else notice that Anakins technique (which everyone seems to agree looks better) brings his saber straight up along his spine? Every tutorial I have seen says not to do this. I personally know it can cause a LOT of pain if done too fast too soon, but I tend to think it is THE proper looking way to do it.

Discuss please. ;)

By bringing the saber along the spine, there is a lot more movement to bring the saber forward again. This not only can slow the move down, but it also takes away from the smoothness of the move and puts unnecessary strain on the shoulder. The heart and soul of this move is how the saber moves in a circular motion the entire time. By having the saber along the spine, the rotation is broken because the hilt is already behind the back, rather than by the hip where it rotates from. To be able to do the move the same way with any kind of smoothness, you would have to turn your body 90 degrees or more to allow the saber to release back to the front, which is just a waste of movement.

They call him MASTER Venturous for a reason Y'all. Save your body, joints and tendons by heading his words!

 Before finding the indispensable teachings of this man and Darth Cephalus, I had unfortunately already developed this bad habit on top of already having chronic joint and nerve pain. I can hardly pick up a glass of water with my right hand for the last week and a half. But everyone thinks I look cool when I do ECLIPSE spins right?  :-\ 
JK.

Well, when the thread title is your forum handle, you're kind of obliged to reply...lol

Seriously though, Master Venturous, you make this look stupidly easy, and smooth.

Can I ask how long you've been at it?  

I’d say the majority of what I learned came from MV.  Then I started pestering DC after I got all of MVs stuff down.  If you listen to DC long enough you’ll end up breaking some sabers and lighting stuff on fire.

MVs emphasis on proper technique and doing it smoothly is great and his format for the videos works well.  His skill routines keep you sharp and really can build stamina.  It’s crazy to think I was tired from doing it at one point. 

I jumped in right into DC’s tutorials, initially.  Only after that i tuned in to Master V and well, YOU Sam, if i may be candid, to fine tune my style and to really understand the flow more🤙🏻

And on the note of Darth Cephalus’ training- it doesn’t take very long at all learn how to destroy a few battery packs and work on that “natural petina and aging”( aka impact scars) on your saber LOL🤣


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I haven’t really done much in the way of tutorials, but I do teach people in person here and there.  I’ve got a few explanations for forum members but I don’t usually keep those videos listed on my channel.  I’ve done some Skype lessons that went really well too.  If I can ever get my hands on a nice camera I’d like to do a series for YouTube, but MV and DC pretty much have anything I could offer covered already.

But I’m fun to watch sometimes 😆😆😆

You made me a couple of personal instruction videos Sam. :)

Still, a good camera set-up would allow you do to more/better artistry videos...

Ok, rapid-fire replies incoming!


Believe me, experience is the best teacher. The only reason I have the title of Master on here is because I developed the bad habits first and learned to correct them.



I've been spinning stuff probably since I was 10 and I'm now 32. It was just an unconscious habit growing up. I'd find a stick or rake handle and just start messing around with it. Usually it would be finger rolls, but later on I started looking for actual techniques to use. From there it just took off. I've probably been spinning staff the longest. I don't really have any formal weapons training, aside from fencing. Everything I know with staff, single saber, dual-wielding, nunchaku, etc. has all come from either personal experience with messing around or from watching videos on YT or watching movies.



Sam is already a better spinner than me, he is just too modest to admit it. As for DC, I think he covers more advanced stuff than I do, especially the videos he's been posting lately. He greatly out-performs me with dual sabers and whenever I want to see a review on blades or sabers, his channel is the first one I hit.

I think (and this is just my personal opinion) that between Sam, DC, MV and Ryan, we have some of the best saber manipulators in the galaxy, right here on the Forums.

 I must agree. We are all truly blessed. Forgive my ignorance on this one, who is Ryan? Got any links? Thanks.

RyanG83Jkd

I haven't seen a lot from him recently, but he used to be pretty active. I'm pretty sure he's still around (he's posted on this thread). The only link I have is one to a short video series that he and a bunch of other people worked on. It is called Relic Wars.

http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=35643.0

Maybe he will pop back in and provide you with more of his stuff.

 Oh! Derp on my part. I don't always notice names right away as much as avatars (which is why I need to get on making my own)
That vid is sick!

 I don't suppose you could give some insight into the 64 variations of the Little Flower could you? I'm super interested. Sounds intense. I understand if it's too hard to explain here. Perhaps some video links at least? What styles have you trained in and what weapons? Much appreciated. :)

I stay in the shadows. Drive by vid Drop for those that dont know me!

Making a reference guide to the variations for my Saber Group. We have the basic 1 - 6 up already. It will be the second Vid.

I'll give examples. A lot my vid's have been removed from youtube for copyright nonsense. I beat all of it but kept them removed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kg4YZFuPNA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK5twHvxtg0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzQmOLHux4Y&t=4s

 Damn! Impressive! I've got a lot of work to do.

This is a great thread. :)

Wow yeah!  Perhaps RyanG83Jkd ought to emerge from the shadows a bit more often. ;)

Points for all.  

 Just to be sure we cleared things up here, from now on it is definitely not an Obi/Ani, but rather an eclipse or flower or Shoulder roll, even though we all know what someone means when its been said in the past right?
Or should we just call it a "definitelynotobiani"? I feel like that just kinda flows nicely too. ;)

I'm a few videos deep into my channel calling it the "shoulder roll" and I know others refer to it as the "Eclipse spin." We should have a poll somewhere on the forum for everyone to vote on their preference of naming it. That way we can all come to an agreement on one term and start using that only. I'd be fine calling it the "Little Flower," as that is the name it supposedly had to begin with. I know I refer to the Plum Blossom technique as a "Plum Flower," which is probably wrong, but people seem to know what I'm talking about when I show it.

I’m always calling things what you called them when I’m teaching people.  You’ve created a chain reaction of people learning the names wrong!!! 😆😆😆

I think it would matter more if these were actual weapons from actual already-established arts. The fact that this is a weapon of fantasy that has no specific art affiliated with it means the naming terms can get jumbled pretty quick, especially when you have as many people trying to teach it as there is. Some people use traditional naming schemes from arts that already exist based on the technique and some make them up. I made up the term "Blade Barrier," which I use for different techniques depending on the weapon type. I don't know if that term has been used before, but to me it sounded the most appropriate for the move. I'm just glad I didn't come up with the "Obi-Ani" name, otherwise I'd never leave my house for fear of assassination.

I’m just giving you a hard time dude, I’ve never really had anyone say anything to me about names of moves.  Except for a few who follow the TPLA stuff, they’ve got their own set of terms for everything.  Which is where the whole orbit thing comes from.  I’m curious about what terminology they use in the books for some of this stuff.

 This is fun! I honestly didn't have any idea this was already a debated topic when I first brought it up. Just like the way different people talk, I could care less how people speak as long as I understand them and vice versa. But it is fun to get people debating things. :D I think it would be awesome if the saber community had it's own terminology though, based on space terms and Star Wars rather than ancient Earth arts. By that logic Obi/Ani or Eclipse both make sense. Shoulder roll makes a lot of sense in that physically, that is what's happening. I also have deep respect for those ancient Earth arts, and have no problem with those names as well. I could see people that practice Shaolin and Escrima etc. being offended if we used those terms. I could also see them being offended if we didn't so...

 The main point to me is, you guys are all awesome! And I'm honored to be able to learn from all of you regardless of the terms. :)

That being said, with my arm still screwed up, I think I might make a fake tutorial series mocking every thing and everyone while making up really dumb confusing terms off the top of my head. If you see me wearing a trench coat, I think you know who I'm referring to. Same as if I wear sunglasses and put my off hand in my pocket. This will be a TRIBUTE, not a diss to anyone. Would that be alright?

I would laugh so hard at this. True, I haven't posted videos for you to make fun of, but I think it would be awesome. Especially if you could capture the feeling of each of the different people's styles. Maybe it is just me, but I can recognize Sam, DC and Ryan just by the way they spin. Probably MV as well, though I don't think I've watched as many of his vids. If the others don't have a problem with you doing it, I would love to see it.

That's the correct term in MeiHuaQuan when it is the " Basic Version " That branches the little flower drills to the Plum Blossom Drill. I've seen so many different versions over the years. In MHQ the Little Flower is not any given one technique, but a series of techniques that follow a similar " Flow ". Same thing with the Plum Blossom. So many variations that are all part of the same series.

I've seen other Shaolin students from different schools have different names depending on dialect etc. ( We use cantonese for example. )

ngóh jek heidínsyùhn jòngmúhnsaai síhn

HELP!!!

I wouldn't have an issue with the spoofing. I'd probably find it hilarious as well. And yes, I'm always concerned about getting a term wrong or calling a move something that already has an established name. In reality though, there is no list of terms anywhere for us to go by and I highly doubt everyone is going to band together on YT or this forum to start using a standardized set of terms. I'd say as long as people know what move we're talking about (which they should after seeing it), then that is what is important. The technique is the important part, the name less so.

 Eggs-act-Lee.
I hope you don't mind that I titled this thread with your name to thank you for a conversation we started on YT, and that I turned into this debate on accident. As I watch more of your amazing tutorials I read the comments and realize, people have been giving you a hard time about this for years, even on videos where you make it CLEAR that there are different names for the move. My bad. I just thought it would be fun to start some debates. ;)
 
 As far as my spoof tutorials, well I already started. I'm not sure I want to post it. I have rarely ever taken pics let alone videos of myself. But to summarize what I have so far:
"Welcome to my tutorial series, part 11. Before we start lets talk about personal style. Your instincts are going to tell you to wear sweat pants and a t-shirt or something, but that's for armatures! You need a DC or dark coat, hopefully long like mine so you can hit it with your blade for extra style points. Maybe a matching v neck or MV and make sure you have SomeHanes, boxer briefs, very supportive, you don't want to get your Schwartz twisted. We will first be discussing the OBI/ANI which is how I warm up, It's an ancient Chinese technique passed on to a Scottsman, were you tell your stupid Padawan to look for a dangerous bounty hunter while you go get a drink. (insert swigs of whiskey from a bottle) There are tons of videos on stretching and limbering up, trust me you don't want to do that. You want to stay nice and tight so you can focus on the most important thing, Speed speed speed. In this tutorial I will help you go from ludicrous speed directly to plaid.  Now lets start with the most talked about technique, the Lunar and Solar ECLIPSE spin or as I call it, Lightside/Darkside spins. So it goes behind your back as you join the dark side bring it WAY out above and in front of you as you join the lightside. Join the darkside ,Join the lightside. And make sure you don't keep it in a straight line. Keep it as far out on either side of your body as you can so you can take on multiple attackers. Now lets talk about stances, You really only need to know two. First is what I call the Yoda/Yaddle stance. First you get on your knees and make yourself real short so all your movements have to be done above your head to avoid hitting the floor. Environmental awareness is a must. From the Yoda /Yaddle You can do a forward Ukemi or roll to a reverse horizontal strike which I call a Droideka. Next go back to the obi/ani. You can never warm up to much." - Master Dark Celophane Vent-hain

 Please understand. This is just a description of what I said in a video I have already deleted. Everyone I am specifically spoofing is a personal HERO to me. I forgot to mention Ryan, because I just noticed who he was a day or so ago, (Psycho G.I. Joe Ninja) seriously next level!!! And Elwood, (it's like that, and that's the way it is! Mr. Macgee) you were up next for the "If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen/resist the pull to the light, that is above your head" section. 
 I have a twisted sick, sense of humor. I'm like a good plate of Nachos or Chester the Cheetah. Cheesy!!!
And I'm also down to talk about very serious subjects like Quantum Physics and Cosmology. Not that I'm an expert on anything in these fields or any thing. but I love contemplating what I perceive to be the multiverse, even though it just provides more questions. (this is why I only sleep 3 or 4 hours a week).  So please don't be offended. i love you guys.  ;D :D ;) :) For real!!!

🤣 dark celophane vent-hain!! Seriously man- dig the Spaceballs reference and quite frankly, this sounds like an SNL skit from the “UltraSabers Miniverse”!! There was some honest to goodness laughing out loud while reading that🤘🏻

Guess that’s a couple points i’m owing you, Gar-Wi!


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Somewhere, in a galaxy far far away, someone would consider that an actual lesson and try to apply it.  :P

Let’s just hope they press “record” first so we get to see🤣


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