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Darth Xocni
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« Reply #105 on: November 28, 2016, 12:16:06 PM »

One thing that has always confounded me; what exactly is the difference between Sith Sorcery and Dark Side force powers?
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« Reply #106 on: November 28, 2016, 03:14:42 PM »

One thing that has always confounded me; what exactly is the difference between Sith Sorcery and Dark Side force powers?
Sorcery usually deals with power over the mind. It is common to manifest visions of an opponent's worst fears to such a degree that they are crippled by panic. Depending on the severity of the attack, the victim can be simply left in a state of hysteria, and no longer a threat. It's difficult to master, and not everyone is capable of it. Darth Zannah was noted as being particularly gifted with it. So much so that Darth Bane threatened to kill her if she ever attempted to use it on him while serving as his apprentice.
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« Reply #107 on: November 28, 2016, 11:33:22 PM »

One thing that has always confounded me; what exactly is the difference between Sith Sorcery and Dark Side force powers?

Sith Sorcery usually affects objects or imbues talismans which affect a user. Some sorcery uses blood. The Sith species was using sorcery for a long time before Dark Jedi came to make them into what they became. The Dark Jedi were Jedi that had fallen, so they knew more about direct Force use, which is how they defeated them and became Sith rulers. They used Sith Sorcery to be able to hybridize with them.
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« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2016, 12:10:51 AM »

A nice example can be seen in the last season of The Clone Wars, either the last episode or the one before that.  Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus use it against Yoda. 
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« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2016, 06:50:48 PM »

Sith Sorcery usually affects objects or imbues talismans which affect a user. Some sorcery uses blood. The Sith species was using sorcery for a long time before Dark Jedi came to make them into what they became. The Dark Jedi were Jedi that had fallen, so they knew more about direct Force use, which is how they defeated them and became Sith rulers. They used Sith Sorcery to be able to hybridize with them.
I think you mean Lords of the Sith. Wink
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« Reply #110 on: November 30, 2016, 09:27:23 AM »

Ahh, thank you. That makes some more sense.
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Wonoksh Qyâsik nun.

"Failure and disobedience are one and the same... In the Sith tongue both translate as "treason". That is the wisdom of the ancients!"

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« Reply #111 on: November 30, 2016, 02:00:52 PM »

Ahh, thank you. That makes some more sense.
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« Reply #112 on: November 30, 2016, 11:30:01 PM »

We aim to please.......and take over the universe. Grin


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« Reply #113 on: December 01, 2016, 04:05:40 PM »



Then he was clearly NOT Sith.
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« Reply #114 on: January 05, 2017, 07:36:49 PM »

Is it possible to control the colour of Sith Lightning? Bane had violet, Dooku had blue, The son (TCW) had red, Palpatine used blue in the OT and a mix of blue and purple in the PT.
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Obese Wan Kenobese
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« Reply #115 on: January 05, 2017, 08:33:50 PM »

I think the idea is that red is different. Blue and purple are essentially the same. Writers in books describe purple. Special effects of OT were mixed, but blue dominant.

http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Lightning
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What strength have you when you are a slave to your passions?
What power without strength of character?
To self centered rage, you will be chained.
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The long path to peace is through balanced emotions.
The first step to gaining knowledge is recognizing your own ignorance.
Serenity is patient, not passionate satisfaction.
Find harmony by understanding chaos.
Become one with the force, which will never die.

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« Reply #116 on: January 05, 2017, 08:35:00 PM »

Is it possible to control the colour of Sith Lightning? Bane had violet, Dooku had blue, The son (TCW) had red, Palpatine used blue in the OT and a mix of blue and purple in the PT.
I think it falls under the artist's vision. Real lightning is white but often depicted with a blue aura. Sith Lightning is often pictured or described as being purple in color. I've asked about the Son's red lightning already but was told that its color depicted no significance. Sidious and Bane were also characterized as exceptionally powerful in the Dark Side. Dooku's "blue" lightning may signify a general lack of strength in the technique. In Rule of Two, a wannabe DS user tried to challenge Bane with disastrous results. Having never come across a true Sith, he fancied himself badass because he could generate lightning. It was so laughably weak that it came out as a single tendril of electricity. His final moments were spent being utterly destroyed by Bane's reciprocation.

I have theorized that lightning could go hand in hand with a tweak to the DC crystal canon, in which its color is derived from the emotion drawn on to generate it. According to the book of the Jedi, an LS technique exists that produces green lightning which is conjured from feelings of supreme righteousness/justice.
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« Reply #117 on: January 05, 2017, 08:49:34 PM »

I always thought that the Son had red lightning because he was the Sith 'balancing point', so to speak, and therefore was extremely powerful, causing his lightning to turn red.
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« Reply #118 on: January 05, 2017, 09:00:26 PM »

I always thought that the Son had red lightning because he was the Sith 'balancing point', so to speak, and therefore was extremely powerful, causing his lightning to turn red.

No, he was the embodiment of the Dark Side. I was left with questions after the Mortis arc. Was it all just a mass hallucination, or were they actually transported there? I question this as I would have assumed that since the Son should have been the pinnacle of Dark Side ability that his lightning would have had a far more destructive effect, that nothing could withstand.

Like the Phoenix vs. Prof. X level destruction.
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« Reply #119 on: January 05, 2017, 09:14:21 PM »

No, he was the embodiment of the Dark Side. I was left with questions after the Mortis arc. Was it all just a mass hallucination, or were they actually transported there? I question this as I would have assumed that since the Son should have been the pinnacle of Dark Side ability that his lightning would have had a far more destructive effect, that nothing could withstand.

Like the Phoenix vs. Prof. X level destruction.



Yeah, embodiment is the phrase I was looking for. I think that they were transported to another dimension that time did not pass the same in, sort of like going to Narnia, time is messed up in the real world. but it wasn't a hallucination. I think his lightning is as you say, and it has a far more destructive effect. I like your analogy of Pheonix and Prof. X.
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