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« Reply #2040 on: January 05, 2017, 12:57:50 AM »

Does anybody know what the mind-reading octopus thing in Rogue One was called?
It was called Awkward and Worthless, since it served no purpose, nor did it have rhyme or reason
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« Reply #2041 on: January 05, 2017, 01:16:01 AM »

Bor gullet.

Boar's don't have gullets. Those belong to the birds (and fishes).
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« Reply #2042 on: January 05, 2017, 02:26:04 AM »

The idea was that Saw had gotten so paranoid that he was using mind readers (because he didn't have Jedi to do it) to screen defectors to be sure anything wasn't just a trap to kill him.  The creature would provide Saw with the knowledge that Bode was telling the truth, and that the message from Galen was correct, but had the "unfortunate" side effect of jumbling one's mind.  Bode was having problems figuring out if he was living in the present or past for a bit until they got off Jedha.  It was suppose to show that the "good guys" were not always so good and do bad things in the name of their cause or because of paranoia caused by a lifetime of war.  Saw's been fighting for at least 20 years now, since the Clone Wars.  And he is an extremist as far as both the Rebel Alliance and Empire are concerned.  The Alliance is a bit embarrassed while the Empire used Saw for propaganda about how evil the Rebels are to their righteous New Order under the Emperor.
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« Reply #2043 on: January 05, 2017, 03:23:28 AM »

Saber quality seems to have taken a bit of a drop here...


Still a cool pic...
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« Reply #2044 on: January 05, 2017, 06:16:11 AM »

Saber quality seems to have taken a bit of a drop here...


Still a cool pic...


yeah, somebody aught to buy them some Ultrasabers. Still cool though. I wonder if that hints at anything that will be in episode VIII. Maybe like Rey will get a green saber, and then both Finn and Poe will get sabers too. I doubt it though.
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« Reply #2045 on: January 05, 2017, 06:25:27 AM »

No. Just no. No sabers for Finn or Poe. Then I would truly be done with Disney's SW.
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« Reply #2046 on: January 05, 2017, 06:44:10 AM »

No. Just no. No sabers for Finn or Poe. Then I would truly be done with Disney's SW.

I agree with you, all I was saying was I wonder if it is a hint at what is to come. I think Poe could use one, but not Finn. He wasn't cool enough for that IMO.
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« Reply #2047 on: January 05, 2017, 06:49:13 AM »

oh.... Finn and Poe are in that picture?
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« Reply #2048 on: January 05, 2017, 07:22:08 AM »

Yeah, but they are kinda hard to see past Daisy.
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« Reply #2049 on: January 05, 2017, 07:31:44 AM »

Yeah, but they are kinda hard to see past Daisy.

Why would we want to see anyone but Daisy anyway
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« Reply #2050 on: January 05, 2017, 08:42:32 AM »

Yeah, but they are kinda hard to see past Daisy.

Cause the guys are blocking some of her.
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« Reply #2051 on: January 05, 2017, 03:40:32 PM »

I wonder if that hints at anything that will be in episode VIII. Maybe like Rey will get a green saber, and then both Finn and Poe will get sabers too. I doubt it though.

I think they may just be having fun with the press.  Undecided
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« Reply #2052 on: January 05, 2017, 04:25:39 PM »

call me dumb but, who's the one in the glasses?
Did you ever figure this out?

Deviating from the norm is exactly what is required in storytelling. In this case, the story being told is that of the Republic collapsing due to war, fear, terrorism, etc., and giving way too much power to a manipulative politician for the sake of security. The Jedi responding to this by being more motivated by fear rather than a desire for peace and taking extreme actions is absolutely warranted by the story and, without that and Ahsoka's subsequent leave (which is a powerful statement on how far the Jedi have fallen), then there's a whole aspect to this theme that wouldn't be explored.

I also disagree with your views on continuity. I'm getting the impression that you think continuity means things remain stationary (please correct me if I'm misinterpreting your statements), when I think it's more like tracing the progression of a story and how things have changed over time. Events happen, and people react and respond to those events, and what comes about from this is change.

If you were complaining about this in an era where the Jedi acted more like the way you described, before the Clone Wars changed everything, then I would agree with you, but this story arc is taking place in a very specific turning point in Galactic History that requires change for it to occur. This change isn't random either, it is a direct effect of the Clone Wars.

This isn't like Holmes suddenly being dumb for no reason, it's the Jedi changing their normal ways in response to threat. There is a cause to that effect, which is good storytelling.
So you're saying it's a satire on the world at large. I guess I can accept that. I just always viewed the Jedi as more than capable to sense BS. But then I also wasn't paying attention to the fact that the Dark Side was pushing against them to the tipping point of coming back into balance. Good catch.

I get what you're saying about fear corrupting people, it just seemed a bit extreme. But then we also weren't exposed to the daily events that would have eroded the Jedi's resistance to such a corrupting influence. I would have expected certain individuals that knew Ahsoka best to put up a better fight: Plo Koon, Anakin, Obi Wan. NTM they had had INVESTIGATING the bombing of the temple specifically because she was off world at the time. So they went from "Let's have her play lead investigator" to "OMG! She did it."

The idea was that Saw had gotten so paranoid that he was using mind readers (because he didn't have Jedi to do it) to screen defectors to be sure anything wasn't just a trap to kill him.  The creature would provide Saw with the knowledge that Bode was telling the truth, and that the message from Galen was correct, but had the "unfortunate" side effect of jumbling one's mind.  Bode was having problems figuring out if he was living in the present or past for a bit until they got off Jedha.  It was suppose to show that the "good guys" were not always so good and do bad things in the name of their cause or because of paranoia caused by a lifetime of war.  Saw's been fighting for at least 20 years now, since the Clone Wars.  And he is an extremist as far as both the Rebel Alliance and Empire are concerned.  The Alliance is a bit embarrassed while the Empire used Saw for propaganda about how evil the Rebels are to their righteous New Order under the Emperor.
I agree with this. It was a little device-ish to intro the creature, but it went a long way in showing Saw's distrust of people. And then there was the crux of it when he thought that Jyn was there to kill him.


All this talk of sabers and cute girls suddenly dropped my brain into the gutter. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2053 on: January 05, 2017, 04:44:08 PM »

Did you ever figure this out?
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« Reply #2054 on: January 05, 2017, 05:22:33 PM »

no



How 'bout not?
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