DARTH CH3M15T
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« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2014, 12:06:18 PM » |
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sure thing Cephalus here they are poi transitions.
and reverse grip flowers.
i was thinking of doing a better version or a tutorial for the reverse grip flowers at some point. but i need to send my saber off to be repaired again. managed to disconnect the battery pack last night getting the thing out of the hilt, to just swap the batteries over. So my sith side is focusing on all my rage and anger right now.
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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Darth Cephalus
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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2014, 04:12:33 AM » |
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Thanks CH3M15T. By the way, do you prefer dark or light points? Your current points indicate light but the Darth in your name might say different. Here is a re-post of part 4, so that it imbeds correctly, and parts 5 and 6. Re-post of 4
Part 5. This video covers the basic theory of contact rolls as we usually see them with staff, and how that looks when applied to a saber. It still works with greatsabers and staffs, but only so well with a single and only slowly.
Part 6. This video introduces the idea of half rotation contact rolls adapted for the smaller contact zone of a single-bladed saber. Covers downward wield and upward wield of forward and reverse grip.
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« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2014, 03:58:43 AM » |
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So the next video is coming soon. I would preface it by saying that I am learning these things as I go along. I start with the concept, try out the move, work on it until I am pretty sure I can do it and explain it, and make the vid. The technique might be a bit clunky yet in certain grips. As far as I see it, I should have three more tutorials on contact rolls, and one to two on palm spins. That is the extent of what is currently in my head. After that, please feel free to play with them, build on them, or post your own versions of them with my full blessing. I will be consolidating and polishing my technique and working on my alternating two handed inverse obi/ani.
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« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2014, 06:41:56 AM » |
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Thought of a new variation for the series. So with one more roll and two spins left, here are the next three videos in the series. Part 7. A variation on the roll from the last video. Same roll, with an extra half rotation achieved by starting the roll with the pal towards the emitter rather than the pommel.
Part 8. A contact roll version of the 1.5 rotation flip from videos 3 and 4. This roll goes over the back of the hand. Roll and reversal must be performed on the same side of the body.
Part 9. This video deals with a double roll over the back of each hand into a hand switch. This move can be done in front or reverse grip in upward or downward wield.
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« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2014, 05:43:49 AM » |
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part 9.5. This video is a demo of some of the contact roll chains that are possible using the moves from parts 5 through 9.
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« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2014, 04:37:17 AM » |
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Not a tutorial but a progress update. I have not had a chance to practice them much but here is where I stand with the revers dual wield obi/ani spin. I have managed to tighten up the movements a bit since the last time. I suppose it helps not being on skates. I noticed in the last video of this that my arms were too high, I have been trying to lower the main part of the motion down to about waist level. In a single hand version, my off shoulder pops forward about the time I am making the second spin behind the back, so that is when I have tried to time the the second saber starting from the front. My right hand is still a bit faster than my left and tends to stay higher but I am working on that. By having the visual feedback in front of me, I am able to watch my shoulders a bit better and try to keep them in time. Unlike the forward variant, where things just clicked the first time I got it timed right, this one seems to have a lot less of a groove. That may come with practice. It would be nice if I could just pic up two sabers and do this without the conscious thought having to be there.
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DARTH CH3M15T
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« Reply #66 on: March 17, 2014, 12:36:35 AM » |
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Thats pretty slick darth cephalus. Its angers me that someone can do a duel wielding move, that i myself haven't yet mastered. May the force serve my needs. When i get my saber back i need to practice. I'm only left puzzled by one thing. Why shave the beard dude?! it was epic.
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2014, 01:04:49 AM » |
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I'm only left puzzled by one thing. Why shave the beard dude?! it was epic.
You can blame my wife for that one. I generally don't have one but was on a shaving strike until we got the hot water fixed. It had been out since early December. We finally got in all the parts and got it running and she called me on my promise to shave. She has begrudgingly agreed that it looked good and may let me have it back seasonally.
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« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2014, 08:41:41 PM » |
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Here is my dual wield practice session with uncharacteristically green sabers in honor of the season. Watch for the inverse obo/ani (still a work in progress) and a hybrid inverse on right and forward on left variant. I have been trying to work on transitions. For anyone who wants to try the hybrid version, I find when timed right, it is a lot like dancing the slide. Your body will move one direction and then back. The video shows the alternating version but a simultaneous version is also possible.
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« Reply #69 on: March 20, 2014, 03:17:28 AM » |
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Video of 5 variations on the dual wield obi/ani spin. These are done with full size 36 inch blades to slow the movement for demonstration purposes. Variation 1 is the standard. Variation 2 is the hybrid with the standard spin with one hand and the inverted spin with the other. Variation 3 is the double alternating inverse. Variation 4 is the simultaneous standard spin. Variation 5 is the simultaneous inverted spin. As a note, variation 2 can be inverted by keeping the blades moving together in the opposite direction. I think I am almost close enough to the inverted double to be able to do a tutorial, so look for that soon as an addition to the doing things backwards series. Also pardon the breathing, one of these days I will have to learn to put music on.
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« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2014, 05:25:00 AM » |
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This is rough yet but here is a practice video featuring upwards and downwards 1/2 palm spins and their use in direction changes.
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« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2014, 08:47:37 PM » |
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Question for venturous. I have not tried to go through your staff tutorials yet but I was just viewing a few to see what I was in for when I decide to break out the coupler again. So my first question is have you considered remaking the staff videos with a lightsaber? The grip and weight distribution is different, so it would be interesting and useful to see these moves done with the weapon many on this forum will be using when they try them. I was also fishing for things that can be adapted to a single saber. Most of these are basically the same moves that can be done with a single saber with one notable exception: the finger roll. I had never seen that before. Have you ever tried it with a single saber? I am planning to myself but I don't know that it will roll right, partly because of the width of the saber (which brings me back to the previous point) and partly because of the balance.
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« Reply #72 on: March 24, 2014, 01:44:40 AM » |
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Question for venturous. I have not tried to go through your staff tutorials yet but I was just viewing a few to see what I was in for when I decide to break out the coupler again. So my first question is have you considered remaking the staff videos with a lightsaber? The grip and weight distribution is different, so it would be interesting and useful to see these moves done with the weapon many on this forum will be using when they try them. I was also fishing for things that can be adapted to a single saber. Most of these are basically the same moves that can be done with a single saber with one notable exception: the finger roll. I had never seen that before. Have you ever tried it with a single saber? I am planning to myself but I don't know that it will roll right, partly because of the width of the saber (which brings me back to the previous point) and partly because of the balance.
Good question about the finger roll. The short answer is yes. It is easier to do it with a lighter blade in the hilt, which will move the balance point more toward the hilt and your fingers, but it is still possible with a heavier blade. I just tried it with one of my Phantasm Initiate hilts with a 24 inch MG initiate blade on it and was easily able to do it. If you've seen my single saber tutorials, I did one video showing how to do a finger roll to change from a standard grip to a reverse grip. The same would apply here, but you would just keep it going as in the staff finger roll. As for redoing the staff videos, I have thought about it before in order to have all the videos using the same weapon (Phantasm staff/single hilts). I honestly don't know that it would make much of a difference though since the balance point would still be in the middle. The only difference between an actual saber and something else would be the diameter of the hilt and the weight, neither of which would have that much of an impact on the techniques. The only move I could see it making only a slight difference on would be the finger roll video, but the technique is the same regardless. If it were my single or dual saber videos, then I would probably redo them because the balance point and therefore the momentum would be different depending on what the person was practicing with. Spring is upon us, so I might consider getting out and redoing the videos again, but we'll see.
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« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2014, 08:59:47 PM » |
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Here my attempt at one of the reverse obi ani moves. and the 2nd vid is some kinda dual spinning technique.
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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DARTH CH3M15T
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« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2014, 12:58:14 PM » |
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Re-did the dual wielding wierd technique move.
and a new version of the Advanced dual reverse grip flowers 2.
and my first attempt at a butterfly kick ( b-kick ).
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Chemist the Phantom Menace, the kinda Sith that smoke spliffs. Witnessing my foes getting wiped from existence Rolling doobs, grow the finest down in naboo, lyrical kung fu focus attack. just like windu. I also got a bong in the shape or R2D2 with efficient badass chrome droids rollin in my crew
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