Random Star Wars Thoughts

[Noctis]

Yes, but with the Force able to present glimpses of the future, would it not also be able to guide your construction toward a design that will also avail you in the future as well? ô¿ô

The future is mutable.  One decision can change the path completely. 

[Molina00]

I guess I can see that. Speaking of replacements...I was under the impression that Obi-Wan needed a replacement after EpI. Then JC brought up the point that Obi was still using the Guardian style in EpII. I found some stills, and he was right. Any of you CW fans know if he was still rolling with it during the Clone Wars, or was it finally MIA from his capture before the battle of Geonosis?

His first Guardian style saber was lost in the duel with Darth Maul then he built another almost identical one which was lost when he was taken prisoner on Geonosis.  After that he used the EP IV style saber during the Clone Wars and up until his death.  

[Darth Logos]

His first Guardian style saber was lost in the duel with Darth Maul then he built another almost identical one which was lost when he was taken prisoner on Geonosis.  After that he used the EP IV style saber during the Clone Wars and up until his death.  

Well considering that they fished Darth Maul out of that pit, I would also assume that they could have saved his saber as well, considering that his EpIII saber survived that fall right before Order 66 was unleashed.

[Darth Logos]

I asked this in another thread, but now I'm really curious...

If construction of the first DS began right after Order 66 was given (possibly a little before) and it wasn't even fully operational for almost 20 years, then wouldn't the second DS has been started before the first was even complete?

[Drahcir]

I always attributed that time delay to the setting in which the DS was built. The first DS was built in a time of recovery from war and was done in secret. The second was done at the height of power and openly.

[Darth Logos]

I always attributed that time delay to the setting in which the DS was built. The first DS was built in a time of recovery from war and was done in secret. The second was done at the height of power and openly.

If it was done "openly", then "many Bothans" wouldn't have "died to bring us this information." And "height of power"? #2 looked better than half done only 5 years after the first was destroyed, and it was nearly twice the volume of of the OG. However, the Wookiees still hadn't been completely conquered yet at the end of EpIII. I've heard that much of the manual labor of the DS construction was done by Wookiee slaves. And it even hints at that in the first TFU novel when SK infiltrates the DS.

Thats one supreme advantage to that style of government. You want a company's resources? You take them. You don't ask, and you certainly don't buy. You don't need public opinion on whether or not it's an ideal use of resources, especially when the end result is galactic subjegation.

[Drahcir]

If it was done "openly", then "many Bothans" wouldn't have "died to bring us this information." And "height of power"? #2 looked better than half done only 5 years after the first was destroyed, and it was nearly twice the volume of of the OG. However, the Wookiees still hadn't been completely conquered yet at the end of EpIII. I've heard that much of the manual labor of the DS construction was done by Wookiee slaves. And it even hints at that in the first TFU novel when SK infiltrates the DS.

Thats one supreme advantage to that style of government. You want a company's resources? You take them. You don't ask, and you certainly don't buy. You don't need public opinion on whether or not it's an ideal use of resources, especially when the end result is galactic subjegation.

Comparatively open - have you read Tarkin yet? You should if you haven't.
That book actually goes into just how secretive the Death Star production was and how stretched for supplies they were about 5 years after EpIII.

[Darth Logos]

Comparatively open - have you read Tarkin yet? You should if you haven't.
That book actually goes into just how secretive the Death Star production was and how stretched for supplies they were about 5 years after EpIII.

I am temporarily sated by this answer. But I'm still suspicious as to how they could build one twice as big, to 70% completion, in only a quarter of the time.



And still be behind schedule.

[JEStucker]

I am temporarily sated by this answer. But I'm still suspicious as to how they could build one twice as big, to 70% completion, in only a quarter of the time.



And still be behind schedule.

NSFW - Language - but it explains a lot about Death Star Construction... I'll just put in the link, not the imbedded image or whatever the pinwheel thing is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA

[Connah]

is it also possible that construction of the second death star started whilst the first was nearing completion?

[Darth Logos]

is it also possible that construction of the second death star started whilst the first was nearing completion?

That's where this line started.

NSFW - Language - but it explains a lot about Death Star Construction... I'll just put in the link, not the imbedded image or whatever the pinwheel thing is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA

NSFW? Language?!?!?

[JEStucker]

NSFW? Language?!?!?

I distinctly recall more F-Bombs in Clerks....

[Darth Logos]

I distinctly recall more F-Bombs in Clerks....

Well duh. Anything with Jay is gonna average at least 5 F-bombs a minute.

But I'm asking what he's talking about.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

But I'm asking what he's talking about.

Randal: So they build another Death Star, right?
Dante: Yeah.
Randal: Now the first one they built was completed and fully operational before the Rebels destroyed it.
Dante: Luke blew it up. Give credit where it's due.
Randal:And the second one was still being built when they blew it up.
Dante: Compliments of Lando Calrissian.
Randal: Something just never sat right with me the second time they destroyed it. I could never put my finger on it-something just wasn't right.
Dante: And you figured it out?
Randal: Well, the thing is, the first Death Star was manned by the Imperial army-storm troopers, dignitaries- the only people onboard were Imperials.
Dante: Basically.
Randal: So when they blew it up, no prob. Evil is punished.
Dante: And the second time around...?
Randal: The second time around, it wasn't even finished yet. They were still under construction.
Dante: So?
Randal: A construction job of that magnitude would require a helluva lot more manpower than the Imperial army had to offer. I'll bet there were independent contractors working on that thing: plumbers, aluminum siders, roofers.
Dante: Not just Imperials, is what you're getting at.
Randal: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they'd hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.
Dante: All right, so even if independent contractors are working on the Death Star, why are you uneasy with its destruction?
Randal: All those innocent contractors hired to do a job were killed- casualties of a war they had nothing to do with. (notices Dante's confusion) All right, look-you're a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia-this is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius. You didn't ask for that. You have no personal politics. You're just trying to scrape out a living.
(The Blue-Collar Man (Thomas Burke) joins them.)
Blue-Collar Man: Excuse me. I don't mean to interrupt, but what were you talking about?
Randal: The ending of Return of the Jedi.
Dante: My friend is trying to convince me that any contractors working on the uncompleted Death Star were innocent victims when the space station was destroyed by the rebels.
Blue-Collar Man: Well, I'm a contractor myself. I'm a roofer... (digs into pocket and produces business card) Dunn and Reddy Home Improvements. And speaking as a roofer, I can say that a roofer's personal politics come heavily into play when choosing jobs.
Randal: Like when?
Blue-Collar Man: Three months ago I was offered a job up in the hills. A beautiful house with tons of property. It was a simple reshingling job, but I was told that if it was finished within a day, my price would be doubled. Then I realized whose house it was.
Dante: Whose house was it?
Blue-Collar Man: Dominick Bambino's.
Randal: "Babyface" Bambino? The gangster?
Blue-Collar Man: The same. The money was right, but the risk was too big. I knew who he was, and based on that, I passed the job on to a friend of mine.
Dante: Based on personal politics.
Blue-Collar Man: Right. And that week, the Foresci family put a hit on Babyface's house. My friend was shot and killed. He wasn't even finished shingling.
Randal: No way!
Blue-Collar Man: (paying for coffee) I'm alive because I knew there were risks involved taking on that particular client. My friend wasn't so lucky. (pauses to reflect) You know, any contractor willing to work on that Death Star knew the risks. If they were killed, it was their own fault. A roofer listens to this... (taps his heart) not his wallet.

sauce: http://www.whysanity.net/monos/clerks5.html
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I never noticed that Anakin straight up cuts a geonosian in twain in AOTC.

[Darth Logos]

STILL. WHAT DOES NSFW MEAN?