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« Reply #1170 on: April 10, 2016, 03:25:55 AM » |
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So, Snoke not a Sith?
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« Reply #1171 on: April 10, 2016, 04:16:21 AM » |
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Assuming Palpatine and Vader were following the Rule of Two. Assuming no other Sith Lords survived post Endor (Darth Plagueis or Darth Maul). And assuming there were no "other Sith" that broke away before or during the Rule of Two in the last thousand or more years. Than no, Snoke is not a Sith.
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« Reply #1172 on: April 10, 2016, 04:23:40 AM » |
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Probably a bit of both.
Those would be my thoughts as well.
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« Reply #1173 on: April 10, 2016, 04:31:27 AM » |
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« Reply #1174 on: April 10, 2016, 05:21:46 AM » |
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I find myself wondering - while the Knights of Ren are decidedly not Sith, do they believe themselves to be? Meaning even though they are a distinct entity, are they doing their best attempt to be Sith or are they actively trying to not be Sith, but still Dark side.
Oh, boy...what I THINK their philosophy is is a whoooooole long ramble, because believe me, I've thought this out in great detail based on what little I've seen. The short version in a nutshell is that I believe that somehow they believe they can make the Force--the entire Force--submit as their tool, which includes even making use of the Light at times, but using those techniques as a tool, submitted to their will. What I suspect is somewhat along the lines of Friedrich Nietzsche's philosophy. Also, LOL on the "professional animators" thing. That took me a long time to finally spot what was wrong with that picture! And the "fanboys" thing...the "What my boss thinks I do"...well, my boss IS going to find out what I do (and possibly even a couple more levels up! O_O ). We have this silly thing where we were supposed to create a department mascot, and take it around to various places in our hometowns (the organization I work for is in several towns and even countries), and one of the things I did was get photos of the mascot at the convention in my full Kylo Ren gear. I decided I was going to be brave and NOT be ashamed of what I do in front of them because honestly, the people at work have been a lot cooler with hearing that I go to cons, and even cosplay, than I think my family would be.
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Darth Tepes
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« Reply #1175 on: April 10, 2016, 07:56:12 AM » |
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Assuming Palpatine and Vader were following the Rule of Two. Assuming no other Sith Lords survived post Endor (Darth Plagueis or Darth Maul). And assuming there were no "other Sith" that broke away before or during the Rule of Two in the last thousand or more years. Than no, Snoke is not a Sith.
Even if Maul survived post Endor as he said in Rebels "Formerly Darth" Much like Ahsoka isn't a Jedi
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« Reply #1176 on: April 10, 2016, 09:07:58 AM » |
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If Maul outlived Palpatine and heard about it, I would assume he'd reclaim his title as Darth Maul, Sith Lord Master. In the name of power. Then find a student to make his one Darth line and figure out how long a game they need to play to retake the galaxy after Palpatine and Vader messed up over Endor.
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« Reply #1177 on: April 10, 2016, 05:37:30 PM » |
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I would not at all assume that either of them were rule of two followers. I wonder who or what this Ren was.
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Bedrock
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« Reply #1178 on: April 10, 2016, 05:50:24 PM » |
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Assuming Palpatine and Vader were following the Rule of Two. Assuming no other Sith Lords survived post Endor (Darth Plagueis or Darth Maul). And assuming there were no "other Sith" that broke away before or during the Rule of Two in the last thousand or more years. Than no, Snoke is not a Sith.
So, if Kylo Ren & Snoke are not Sith, is the new trilogy just not doing the whole Sith thing? Are the Sith not the yang to the Jedi ying?
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« Reply #1179 on: April 10, 2016, 06:12:19 PM » |
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So, if Kylo Ren & Snoke are not Sith, is the new trilogy just not doing the whole Sith thing? Are the Sith not the yang to the Jedi ying?
The "Fight" as Maz called it is between the Light and the Dark. The Jedi are the Light, yes. But remember Maz also said the Dark Side has taken many forms and listed "The Sith, The Empire and now The First Order." Different groups following the Dark Side in different ways
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« Reply #1180 on: April 10, 2016, 06:20:39 PM » |
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The "Fight" as Maz called it is between the Light and the Dark. The Jedi are the Light, yes. But remember Maz also said the Dark Side has taken many forms and listed "The Sith, The Empire and now The First Order." Different groups following the Dark Side in different ways
So, all you Darths & Sith are now extinct? That's gotta be rough. I feel for you. Shoutout to Doral. You hit up Magic City Jedi yet?
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« Reply #1181 on: April 10, 2016, 08:48:52 PM » |
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So, all you Darths & Sith are now extinct? That's gotta be rough. I feel for you.
Shoutout to Doral! You hit up Magic City Jedi yet?
Nah, that isn't for me.
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« Reply #1182 on: April 10, 2016, 11:44:47 PM » |
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TRI-CREE is blindingly bright by itself, I can see why so many Sith wear masks when using their super bright lazerswords. The Jedi need to start wearing shades or something.
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« Reply #1183 on: April 12, 2016, 09:34:35 PM » |
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I can't possibly be the only person who thinks the junior novelization of TFA just beats the ever-living crap out of Foster's version.
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« Reply #1184 on: April 12, 2016, 09:35:52 PM » |
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I can't possibly be the only person who thinks the junior novelization of TFA just beats the ever-living crap out of Foster's version.
I've never read either, so...
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