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Title: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 17, 2020, 07:08:29 AM
Hey y'all MsMalice here.  This is my official post for y'all to request commissions for chassis.  I will fill in more details at a later time.  Reach out to GeneralMalice if you have any questions or commision requests.  Thank you. Talk to you soon. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E2uOr_PQ4&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2Y87_dt4Nuix2hxwW6g1XC5wN7SMUPaQUFo2uQCYVM11pH4WJkQyyms_Q# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E2uOr_PQ4&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2Y87_dt4Nuix2hxwW6g1XC5wN7SMUPaQUFo2uQCYVM11pH4WJkQyyms_Q#)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on April 17, 2020, 07:41:16 AM
Great design!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Arcinsaw on April 17, 2020, 05:31:43 PM
That looks awesome! Any plans to make other configurations?

If I had a 3D printer I would love to design a chassis/speaker holder for the Li-ion+emerald+obsidian setup so I could make it all fit in my Fallen hilt without having to borderline jam it in.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Karmack on April 17, 2020, 06:20:28 PM
Making this sticky so we can all find it.   :-)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 17, 2020, 06:26:21 PM
That looks awesome! Any plans to make other configurations?

If I had a 3D printer I would love to design a chassis/speaker holder for the Li-ion+emerald+obsidian setup so I could make it all fit in my Fallen hilt without having to borderline jam it in.


Yes. I am gonna work on figuring out a chassis for when you have a warranty and for when you dont


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: KaiserSosay on April 18, 2020, 04:05:05 AM
Great idea and design! I would buy two without hesitation.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: chalion on April 18, 2020, 04:27:32 AM
I would also buy at least 2, maybe 4. I'm wondering if tape could be put on the battery holder side to help cushion that outer facing to keep it level in that chassis as a shock absorber as I can see the chance that side could shake loose over time and knock the batteries around.

I also can see that the chassis pull tab is used as a spring/filler to be bendable as the pommel is attached so the chassis doesn't move lengthwise in the hilt. Very clever thinking there. My compliments.


Have you thought about maybe in the future deleting the battery holder totally and just using the chassis with battery contacts instead? Maybe use 9volt connectors on the chassis side and put another one on the wiring to the inner part of the hilt, so it's removable/swappable between hilts? Just a thought to see if that shows interest/possibility.



Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ThreadJack on April 18, 2020, 04:52:35 AM
I could use a few! Are you able to make ones for the two battery set ups, like the red led's use?


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 18, 2020, 11:10:42 AM
I would also buy at least 2, maybe 4. I'm wondering if tape could be put on the battery holder side to help cushion that outer facing to keep it level in that chassis as a shock absorber as I can see the chance that side could shake loose over time and knock the batteries around.

I also can see that the chassis pull tab is used as a spring/filler to be bendable as the pommel is attached so the chassis doesn't move lengthwise in the hilt. Very clever thinking there. My compliments.


Have you thought about maybe in the future deleting the battery holder totally and just using the chassis with battery contacts instead? Maybe use 9volt connectors on the chassis side and put another one on the wiring to the inner part of the hilt, so it's removable/swappable between hilts? Just a thought to see if that shows interest/possibility.




Good ideas. I think the issue would be people having to work on their own wiring if we made an all inclusive chassis. Also check your IM


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 18, 2020, 11:11:19 AM
I could use a few! Are you able to make ones for the two battery set ups, like the red led's use?

Yes we are working a AA 2x set up as well.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Infinit01 on April 18, 2020, 03:13:11 PM
Nice video breaking down the chassis, I'm a fan and may have to pick a few up from you.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 18, 2020, 05:16:07 PM
So it looks like everything is good to go on the chassis. I have prices figured out. We have different color resins that will be here Monday including clear colors and we figured out some cool stuff that we can do printing wise. We also ordered 3 more resin printers to help reduce lead times as it takes a little under 10 hours for every 2 printed at a time on one printer. I will post everything by Friday the 24 with examples pictures and hopefully some ready to ship that day. Thank you all for this support.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on April 18, 2020, 11:03:45 PM
Posting here myself so when that update comes I won’t miss it. Hopefully by then I’ll have actual money and not just a vague promise of something down the road.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Samhain138 on April 19, 2020, 03:25:20 PM
If the pricings not crazy I'll buy a couple as soon as you make them!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Sithlord77 on April 22, 2020, 12:12:06 AM
Cant wait to try these out myself. Props to GM & Ms GM


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Infinit01 on April 22, 2020, 12:15:26 AM
Looking forward to this


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Ahnkar on April 23, 2020, 02:07:18 PM
Awesome mod, I’d definitely like to get my hands on one for my initiate V4!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 25, 2020, 03:46:29 AM
CAN A MOD PLEASE MAKE THIS MY FIRST POST INFO> I CAN NOT EDIT IT AS YOU KNOW LOL> TY

Howdy Y’all,

Ms. Malice’s Chassis are almost ready for same day sales. We have been working day and night to get the chassis design just right. We finally nailed it on the head.  Check out our new video.
Standard CHASSIS W/ US and Ms. Malice Logo/Branding in 95mm or 85mm
13$ for 1
12$ each for 5
11$ each for 10
White, Grey, and Clear are included for no additional charge
$1 per chassis upcharge for clear green, clear red or black
Shipping will be USPS first class and vary with each sale, but I know 10 can fit in a 7.95 first class small box.

We are doing PayPal, Venmo and Cash App at this time and I can provide that once the order is discussed.  Please wait to pay until we confirm the order so we don’t have any issues.

You can customize some words on the chassis for an additional fee based on the request, we must make sure it fits but whatever you like. For example: May the force be with you, or your name in Aurebesh.
It takes 8 hours to make 3 currently, but we have more printers on the way to help expedite orders.  
 We can give you the lead time once we have your input and payment. If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out, we will be happy to help 😊
Thanks for supporting, stay safe and MTFBWY.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAec8rlW2ss&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2BuOs1VA5wk60jblxrWGsqWfGsTuqlxkou4qY8kVm0UOVITy_m4u6tHmo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAec8rlW2ss&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2BuOs1VA5wk60jblxrWGsqWfGsTuqlxkou4qY8kVm0UOVITy_m4u6tHmo#)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Tai Chi Chuan Wijchen on April 25, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
Great work, love the design!
Thanks!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on April 28, 2020, 10:06:45 PM
I have shipped everyone orders. Thank you for the support. We are now printing some RTS chassis. I have new pictures of the looks and a new AA battery chassie set up we will show off later tonight. If you want to place an order let us know, and we will post the RTS chassis when available. "have to sand and prime them"

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zXDtAj3AH8Nro4wo7

Thanks again to everyone. 


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: TheDutchman on May 04, 2020, 12:16:42 PM
These are A-MAZING!!!

OK, I am completely useless as an electrician; how does one install the chassis?

...And I apologize in advance if this was already answered  ;)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on May 04, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
These are A-MAZING!!!

OK, I am completely useless as an electrician; how does one install the chassis?

...And I apologize in advance if this was already answered  ;)


The chassis is installed by placing the battery housing into the chassis. Its like a cover that just takes space away in the hilt. No wires cut or anything. The battery pack should slide in with ease.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: TheDutchman on May 04, 2020, 12:42:18 PM
The chassis is installed by placing the battery housing into the chassis. Its like a cover that just takes space away in the hilt. No wires cut or anything. The battery pack should slide in with ease.
Wonderful!

And thank you for the prompt response, GM  :)   Every time I try to play the vid my tablet keeps buffering  :P

These are awesome!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Infinit01 on May 04, 2020, 12:44:20 PM
The chassis look amazing, I love the time you two are taking to make them look like this


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: BatMike90 on May 04, 2020, 02:19:03 PM
Okay. I am highly interested now.  :o ;D


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on May 05, 2020, 11:09:45 PM
Howdy all and revenge of the 5th day too you all. Ms. Malice chassis now has chassis ready to ship in black white red green and clear with any color shipped 14$ or 2 for 27$ (Limit 2) these will have US and Ms. Malice on them but you can still place a standard order if needed.

Please send me a message to get started.
 
Thank you for all the support and if you haven't see it yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHMTUmkVXE&t=64s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eHMTUmkVXE&t=64s) check out the review from forum Member
Aaureo.

Thanks all again and stay safe


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: MVHI JEDI on May 06, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
Definitely going to order a few of these!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: reignere on May 07, 2020, 07:50:11 AM
definitely gonna have to pick up 2 of these when my saber comes


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: MVHI JEDI on May 11, 2020, 09:19:04 PM
GOT MINE TODAY!
Unboxing, install, and review video tonight!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Sithlord77 on May 12, 2020, 12:01:00 AM
These chassis work perfectly with my Stunt sabers.  They did an amazing job and look forward to future designs. Thanks GM & Ms GM


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Infinit01 on May 12, 2020, 12:05:11 PM
These chassis work perfectly with my Stunt sabers.  They did an amazing job and look forward to future designs. Thanks GM & Ms GM

Agreed, their work is quite good


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Fatalis on May 19, 2020, 03:10:55 PM
Looking forward to picking some up.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: janx on June 02, 2020, 07:36:16 PM
that is a brilliant innovation.  I have a friend with a stunt, and when I figure out what battery pack she's got, I may order one for her.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on June 02, 2020, 07:44:37 PM
Sounds good. We are here everyday. MTFBWY


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Fatalis on June 02, 2020, 08:31:41 PM
Really trying to get this new chassis installed, but not sure what the issue is.......
(https://i.imgur.com/DHz92x1.jpg)



JUST JOKING....lol
(https://i.imgur.com/OStcOxF.jpg)

It looks and works great! A MUST have for battery security! Plus you get a free gift! THANKS


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on June 02, 2020, 09:07:12 PM
Lol that was fantastic,  Ms.Malice is happy you like it.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: saberbabe771 on June 09, 2020, 11:45:13 PM
Hey all, I'm a fresh baby to the world of the adult saber world. Last lightsaber I has was that plastic assemble your own lightsaber kids got when they were ten.

SO on to my question, I bought stunt version of The Savior, a mystery saber, and got the free initiate saber with the order, a total of 3 sabers. Looking thru the customization forum cuz I FOR SURE want to try and get artistic with these new toys, I read through this thread, I like what I see but I am curious/concerned.

Is having a chassis like this important for the sabers? Are the battery packs not entirely made secure in the hilt?

Being a novice I wanna make sure I understand some of the necessary ins and outs for not only making my sabers my own, but also making sure they last a while. If this is one of those things that I would need to get to protect the battery pack, then I would 100% love to purchase a few to make sure my sabers are secure.

Also, if there's anything else I should look out for when it comes to securing the longevity of my sabers, please lemme know! Or point me in the direction of the appropriate forum topic/thread


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on June 10, 2020, 12:15:07 AM
Hey all, I'm a fresh baby to the world of the adult saber world. Last lightsaber I has was that plastic assemble your own lightsaber kids got when they were ten.

SO on to my question, I bought stunt version of The Savior, a mystery saber, and got the free initiate saber with the order, a total of 3 sabers. Looking thru the customization forum cuz I FOR SURE want to try and get artistic with these new toys, I read through this thread, I like what I see but I am curious/concerned.

Is having a chassis like this important for the sabers? Are the battery packs not entirely made secure in the hilt?

Being a novice I wanna make sure I understand some of the necessary ins and outs for not only making my sabers my own, but also making sure they last a while. If this is one of those things that I would need to get to protect the battery pack, then I would 100% love to purchase a few to make sure my sabers are secure.

Also, if there's anything else I should look out for when it comes to securing the longevity of my sabers, please lemme know! Or point me in the direction of the appropriate forum topic/thread


With the way US has their set up currently you run the risk of fractures on the housing of the battery due to impacts with the space in hilt. most people put foam or tape to help with this. There is also wear and tear when removing batteries. Besides that wires breaking from removal or impact can happen as well.
MsMalices chassis are made to remove the space that is left over from the building process. There is no need for my chassis. you can do everything just fine. Some people spin or spar and this helps keep the battery in place and the housing safe is all.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on June 10, 2020, 12:49:39 AM
I just received three of Ms. Malice’s chassis, and installed two (because the third saber for which I bought a chassis is not currently in my household), and they’re lovely!  They fit perfectly, and seem to be very sturdy, as well.  It’s definitely a better, sturdier solution than the Velcro strip, ribbon, and sponge spacer that I had been using.  (Yes, that worked, and I had incurred no damage, but still... this looks and feels much better.) 

I am very pleased with my purchase, and if my other stunt sabers were not V2s, I would have bought more.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: saberbabe771 on June 10, 2020, 01:14:20 AM
I greatly appreciate the info! Granted I don't foresee me sparing with anybody in the future, although who knows, I could get addicted to this brave new world and follow the rabbit down the hole. I'll wait to see what my two random sabers are and how all three feel. Tracking is telling me by Friday so I guess I'll make my decision then! Thank you so much for your answers!!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on June 14, 2020, 01:32:10 AM
A Update from Ms. Malice. Thanks to the fantastic ZanarCrestrider, we were able to crack the case of how do we get other colors.there is a 2$ custom color charge per chassis but subject to discount based on volume.    We are now able to do most colors by request. here is an example of pink (https://i.imgur.com/iDQvys1.jpg)

We have also found some uninstalled boards that should help with chassis designs (hopefully some good prototypes) for the installed sabers with warranty's. I havnt had the heart to dismantle my diamonds boards but now i dont have to. I have a V3 and a Diamond. RnD will start soon as the rough draft have been started. We are (ms malice and I) debating what design we wanna focus on first.

If you have any question please feel free we are always here.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on June 14, 2020, 03:57:43 AM
Yay for being the random chucklehead that just happened to ask the right questions that inspired you guys. I really didn’t do anything except keep buying more chassis in different colors. Oh well, I still get the benefit of color matching my sabers, cause I like doing that for some silly reason.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on June 14, 2020, 04:19:03 AM
I am interested in Diamond (because I have one, with another to come soon, and the possibility of ordering a third chassis for a buddy who also has one), but it looks like three would be my max order.  So, for whatever that’s worth, you have my input.

And $2 extra for custom color is not a deal-breaker for me.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: dogdoctor on July 12, 2020, 11:47:05 PM
@GeneralMalice- sent you a PM. Inquiring about ordering as set. - dogdoctor


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on July 13, 2020, 01:26:43 AM
@GeneralMalice I also sent a DM


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 13, 2020, 02:51:28 AM
Sorry for the late replys but i have answered ... i also will have new news for the US family. i spoiled it for the 2 who inquired but now you all have to wait longer.... maybe they tell you... maybe they dont.... but its good for all lol

hope everyone is safe and having a fantastic month.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on July 13, 2020, 03:10:49 AM
Sorry for the late replys but i have answered ... i also will have new news for the US family. i spoiled it for the 2 who inquired but now you all have to wait longer.... maybe they tell you... maybe they dont.... but its good for all lol

hope everyone is safe and having a fantastic month.

Any news from your efforts are yours to announce.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Infinit01 on July 13, 2020, 11:29:00 AM
Good stuff, looking forward to more of this


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on July 13, 2020, 07:56:31 PM
Any news from your efforts are yours to announce.

Agreed.  I, for one, am content to wait.


Okay, maybe content isn’t the right word, but I’m going to wait until you’re ready, anyway.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Fatalis on July 13, 2020, 10:36:52 PM
I really don't know what kinda fairy magic is in these chassis... Every time I shake it candy comes out!
(https://i.imgur.com/ieelh1S.jpg)

and when I touch the blade to something... Star Wars cards and stickers appear!
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1JEfPo.jpg)

Again, you really need to get some of these chassis in your pommels!

A++++


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on July 13, 2020, 10:43:31 PM
I really don't know what kinda fairy magic is in these chassis... Every time I shake it candy comes out!
(https://i.imgur.com/ieelh1S.jpg)

and when I touch the blade to something... Star Wars cards and stickers appear!
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1JEfPo.jpg)

Again, you really need to get some of these chassis in your pommels!

A++++

Thats funny !!! +point


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 14, 2020, 12:33:10 AM
always makes us smile when we see the end results.  Ms Malice is over the moon lol


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: chalion on July 16, 2020, 08:03:30 PM
I am interested in Diamond (because I have one, with another to come soon, and the possibility of ordering a third chassis for a buddy who also has one), but it looks like three would be my max order.  So, for whatever that’s worth, you have my input.

And $2 extra for custom color is not a deal-breaker for me.

I also would be interested in chassis designed for Diamond cards. Even if it's just a clamshell design that fits above the speaker and just makes it so there's no wobble movement for the card would be a great improvement. I periodically get a short and shutoff if the usb connection touches the inside of the hilt. I really see this in my Graflex hilts, for example.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 16, 2020, 10:11:21 PM
I also would be interested in chassis designed for Diamond cards. Even if it's just a clamshell design that fits above the speaker and just makes it so there's no wobble movement for the card would be a great improvement. I periodically get a short and shutoff if the usb connection touches the inside of the hilt. I really see this in my Graflex hilts, for example.
;D
"Grin"


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on July 16, 2020, 11:12:50 PM
;D
"Grin"

Tease!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Fatalis on July 17, 2020, 02:28:49 PM
;D
"Grin"

OH no you didn't !


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on July 17, 2020, 03:03:28 PM
OH no you didn't !

Actually, I’m hoping he (and she) did!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: chalion on July 18, 2020, 01:25:14 AM
Actually, I’m hoping he (and she) did!

Same. I've used 1.25 OD poly tubing for chassis but it requires much cutting, trimming and sanding and i'm getting too old to do it myself, because I don't have access to the machining tools to do it automatically anymore. Company I work for sold off their CNC machines  & lathes and only work with 3D printers I don't have the knowledge to set up in CAD.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on July 18, 2020, 01:32:37 AM
Same. I've used 1.25 OD poly tubing for chassis but it requires much cutting, trimming and sanding and i'm getting too old to do it myself, because I don't have access to the machining tools to do it automatically anymore. Company I work for sold off their CNC machines  & lathes and only work with 3D printers I don't have the knowledge to set up in CAD.

I have offered and still do to all forum members ( no strings ) if you need a CAD drawing done or a 3d printer file


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: dogdoctor on July 19, 2020, 07:04:31 PM
Now that I was able to breath a sigh of relief on Friday once I got my son's saber back in order, I put in an order for 2 chassis. Look forward to installing them!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Infinit01 on July 20, 2020, 12:37:15 PM
I really don't know what kinda fairy magic is in these chassis... Every time I shake it candy comes out!
(https://i.imgur.com/ieelh1S.jpg)

and when I touch the blade to something... Star Wars cards and stickers appear!
(https://i.imgur.com/Z1JEfPo.jpg)

Again, you really need to get some of these chassis in your pommels!

A++++

Use the shorts, I mean the Force!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: dogdoctor on July 26, 2020, 05:43:05 PM
The two installed beautifully! Thanks.

I have to admit my wife was confused with the order of the goodies you sent. I didn’t order that I said. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then the chassis came out and I was like oooooh. Yes that was me. Lol 😂

One small critique ... my son’s battery back wants to lose 1 battery more than mine. So that gap between the pack and the chassis is just enough for the battery slip just a bit. But it does still maintain connection, but it could be tighter.

The loss of the rattle is amazing!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on July 26, 2020, 11:37:07 PM
The two installed beautifully! Thanks.

I have to admit my wife was confused with the order of the goodies you sent. I didn’t order that I said. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then the chassis came out and I was like oooooh. Yes that was me. Lol 😂

One small critique ... my son’s battery back wants to lose 1 battery more than mine. So that gap between the pack and the chassis is just enough for the battery slip just a bit. But it does still maintain connection, but it could be tighter.

The loss of the rattle is amazing!

There is a reason I have a chassis it every single saber I have that can take one. I'll end up getting his diamond chassis once that's done too. Right now I have more on order, for my wife's sabers, my son's sabers, and my new saber that will be arriving tomorrow. I'd order more if I had places to put them. He even does a great job at colors, as long as you tell him what color you want. I like color coding the chassis to match the saber's color.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 29, 2020, 06:48:03 PM
The two installed beautifully! Thanks.

I have to admit my wife was confused with the order of the goodies you sent. I didn’t order that I said. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Then the chassis came out and I was like oooooh. Yes that was me. Lol 😂

One small critique ... my son’s battery back wants to lose 1 battery more than mine. So that gap between the pack and the chassis is just enough for the battery slip just a bit. But it does still maintain connection, but it could be tighter.

The loss of the rattle is amazing!

I wounder if you have bowing at the corners of your housing. Ive seen this on one of mine my i replaced it with a new housing. So the cornors look like skate board tails on the cornors. Do you see this issue with yours?



Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: illwearmyscars on July 31, 2020, 07:14:14 AM
I just ordered 2 stunt savers so I’m definitely interested in ordering 2 of these!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 31, 2020, 12:29:58 PM
Cant wait to see what you get!! We are almost done printing our next grade of strength chassis(40 so far adn counting). We are still waiting on the new machine for the high end chassis (3 weeks). but the ones im making now have not broken from the drop test at 10" only at 20" did they crack. the top tier chassis material would not break and will be able to support a smaller form factor to support the sound cards with out voiding your warranty.  Keep an eye out for an Saberforum only giveaway coming soon.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on July 31, 2020, 01:47:56 PM
Cant wait to see what you get!! We are almost done printing our next grade of strength chassis(40 so far adn counting). We are still waiting on the new machine for the high end chassis (3 weeks). but the ones im making now have not broken from the drop test at 10" only at 20" did they crack. the top tier chassis material would not break and will be able to support a smaller form factor to support the sound cards with out voiding your warranty.  Keep an eye out for an Saberforum only giveaway coming soon.

Sir , I have a Dark sentinel and i use them hard. will the new chassis work in this saber ?


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 31, 2020, 02:58:05 PM
Sir , I have a Dark sentinel and i use them hard. will the new chassis work in this saber ?


As a stunt, yes yes it will. (http://i.imgur.com/j7XzEI8.jpeg)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 31, 2020, 03:02:17 PM
Heres a demo of me throwing it from 10 ft plus and throwing it around.  Excuse the feet and messy looking house. https://photos.app.goo.gl/QRWTVxJEYxeuEfhs8


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on July 31, 2020, 04:47:13 PM
Let us know when the Heavier ones are ready


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on August 01, 2020, 04:55:15 PM
Heres a demo of me throwing it from 10 ft plus and throwing it around.  Excuse the feet and messy looking house. https://photos.app.goo.gl/QRWTVxJEYxeuEfhs8

Heaven forbid you have a house that looks lived in. It’s also utter blasphemy that you would dare be comfortable while inside your own home.

I can’t wait to see you drop the indestructible ones off something stupidly tall and watch it bounce harmlessly off the pavement below.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on August 01, 2020, 05:00:36 PM
Heaven forbid you have a house that looks lived in. It’s also utter blasphemy that you would dare be comfortable while inside your own home.

I can’t wait to see you drop the indestructible ones off something stupidly tall and watch it bounce harmlessly off the pavement below.

that i want to see


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on August 05, 2020, 12:53:54 PM
THIS IS FOR SABERFOURM only All you have to DO is make a purchase here for a chassis.
SEND ME A MESSAGE PLEASE WITH YOUR REQUEST.


ONLY HAVE red, white and rainbow PLA this week. Other colors are a few days away

For anyone one who wants to know You can get the current PLA chassis at 15$ each and the discount applies for more (shipping not included).  Free gifts in every purchase! We are looking at end of August before our other new machine is here.

I will be doing a contest based on chassis sales for the time being until the new set up arrives.

Here are the details:

"PRIZES"
***Grand Prize: IF I sell 100 chassis (or close to it) during this promotion***
MsMalice will etch and Wrap your Initiate V2 !! You must supply saber

(for sure prize) - Grab bag Saber from US* ordered 08/02 "you pay shipping to you"
(for sure prize) - 50$ CREDIT towards chassis's (that's like 4 chassis) OR etching from Ms.Malice (you are responsible for shipping, and saber for etching as well)
 (for sure prize) - 3x Full Base sets of Star Wars Movie cards. (different years)
 (for sure prize) - chassis of your choice any color and logo (resin only) x5
 (for sure prize) - chassis of your choice any color FDM x5

* All shipping costs are the responsibility of the winner.*

There will be a time frame from 08/05 (today) going until the new printer arrives (ETA end of August).

For each chassis that is sold, a number or a ticket (not sure yet), will be assigned to each purchase that will lock you into the contest. You can have as many entries as you have purchases, ex. you buy 5 chassis= 5 entries.

Message me here to order.  Once the contest ends I will live stream the winners being picked on my YT.

Don't forget to like and sub to my YT as well for Videos on fighting and sabers and cards.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz-Is4MEVUZkD9CvnXqWB2Q/ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz-Is4MEVUZkD9CvnXqWB2Q/)

Enjoy!!




Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: HesaHeart on August 05, 2020, 06:16:04 PM
Good luck to all !!! I am holding back for the new heavy grade one.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on August 05, 2020, 09:29:36 PM
I’m all full up on the ones for MHS-compatible stunt sabers, so I’m holding out for V2 or Diamond-capable chassis now.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on August 05, 2020, 11:11:48 PM
No worries i understand the desire for the ones coming. Its good news for the rest ;)  example as to why. Say 15 people buy chassis. then all 15 prizes will be given away. if 30 then 1 in 2 chance, if 45 1 in 3. so lower the better. the 100 mark is only if it got that high. 


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Darth Andeddu on August 06, 2020, 04:26:01 AM
THIS IS FOR SABERFOURM only All you have to DO is make a purchase here for a chassis.
SEND ME A MESSAGE PLEASE WITH YOUR REQUEST.


ONLY HAVE red, white and rainbow PLA this week. Other colors are a few days away

For anyone one who wants to know You can get the current PLA chassis at 15$ each and the discount applies for more (shipping not included).  Free gifts in every purchase! We are looking at end of August before our other new machine is here.

I will be doing a contest based on chassis sales for the time being until the new set up arrives.

Here are the details:

"PRIZES"
***Grand Prize: IF I sell 100 chassis (or close to it) during this promotion***
MsMalice will etch and Wrap your Initiate V2 !! You must supply saber

(for sure prize) - Grab bag Saber from US* ordered 08/02 "you pay shipping to you"
(for sure prize) - 50$ CREDIT towards chassis's (that's like 4 chassis) OR etching from Ms.Malice (you are responsible for shipping, and saber for etching as well)
 (for sure prize) - 3x Full Base sets of Star Wars Movie cards. (different years)
 (for sure prize) - chassis of your choice any color and logo (resin only) x5
 (for sure prize) - chassis of your choice any color FDM x5

* All shipping costs are the responsibility of the winner.*

There will be a time frame from 08/05 (today) going until the new printer arrives (ETA end of August).

For each chassis that is sold, a number or a ticket (not sure yet), will be assigned to each purchase that will lock you into the contest. You can have as many entries as you have purchases, ex. you buy 5 chassis= 5 entries.

Message me here to order.  Once the contest ends I will live stream the winners being picked on my YT.

Don't forget to like and sub to my YT as well for Videos on fighting and sabers and cards.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz-Is4MEVUZkD9CvnXqWB2Q/ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz-Is4MEVUZkD9CvnXqWB2Q/)

Enjoy!!




sweet!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on August 06, 2020, 10:27:58 AM
No worries i understand the desire for the ones coming. Its good news for the rest ;)  example as to why. Say 15 people buy chassis. then all 15 prizes will be given away. if 30 then 1 in 2 chance, if 45 1 in 3. so lower the better. the 100 mark is only if it got that high. 

Sounds like people need to jump in on this so I don’t walk away with a third of the prizes.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on August 06, 2020, 12:50:42 PM
With you included there has been 6 ticketed generated. Im super excited for everyone. Quick note. US already shipped the MB/GB order i place 3 days ago.... My empties order from 2 months ago no luck but these prizes are on the way lol


Title: New Video from Zanar Crestrider MsMalice chassis unboxing
Post by: GeneralMalice- on August 18, 2020, 07:05:29 PM
Check out this unboxing from Zanar Crestrider. look for part 2 that shows the saber he received as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTuoyJCxhg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2Hr__E3eCXMgegWiHiCZBxVyKj6FCGp_P6d9QlexR8recTzKBz-i2ktmU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTuoyJCxhg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2Hr__E3eCXMgegWiHiCZBxVyKj6FCGp_P6d9QlexR8recTzKBz-i2ktmU#)


Title: Re: New Video from Zanar Crestrider MsMalice chassis unboxing
Post by: Darth Andeddu on August 18, 2020, 07:35:57 PM
Check out this unboxing from Zanar Crestrider. look for part 2 that shows the saber he received as well.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTuoyJCxhg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2Hr__E3eCXMgegWiHiCZBxVyKj6FCGp_P6d9QlexR8recTzKBz-i2ktmU#[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beTuoyJCxhg&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2Hr__E3eCXMgegWiHiCZBxVyKj6FCGp_P6d9QlexR8recTzKBz-i2ktmU#[/url])


awesome!  Congrats!


Title: Re: New Video from Zanar Crestrider MsMalice chassis unboxing
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on August 18, 2020, 07:54:24 PM
Check out this unboxing from Zanar Crestrider. look for part 2 that shows the saber he received as well.

You would almost think I forgot about the saber the second I set it aside... and you would be right. Completely engrossed in the chassis and goodies I got.

I don’t remember if I mentioned it, but the saber is an Aeon v2 when I get around to showing it off.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on August 18, 2020, 11:52:08 PM
Cool review, even if we never saw the saber.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: ZanarCrestrider on August 19, 2020, 01:16:00 AM
Cool review, even if we never saw the saber.

Oh it’s coming. I realized what I did about 15 seconds after ending the video.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Jedi Skallagrimsson on August 21, 2020, 01:46:02 AM
I need to do a quick review as I just got my first chassis and am ecstatic.

I have to say anybody looking at buying Ms. Malice's chassis's that these are a great addition to your saber (takes out every bit of rattle from the batteries). GeneralMalice is a great guy who goes above and beyond, and his chassis are top quality. Now I just need wait until I am a little more flush with funds to buy enough for all my sabers!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on August 27, 2020, 10:51:37 PM
I need to do a quick review as I just got my first chassis and am ecstatic.

I have to say anybody looking at buying Ms. Malice's chassis's that these are a great addition to your saber (takes out every bit of rattle from the batteries). GeneralMalice is a great guy who goes above and beyond, and his chassis are top quality. Now I just need wait until I am a little more flush with funds to buy enough for all my sabers!

Review, review , Review lol


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: AnxiousR2 on September 04, 2020, 01:55:50 AM
Is this giveaway/promotion still happening?


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on September 04, 2020, 02:32:24 AM
Is this giveaway/promotion still happening?

Yes it is !!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on September 11, 2020, 06:51:56 PM
We did it. We have the V2 chassis up and ready for sell. We have dropped the price for all forum member for the V1 classis and once they are gone they will be gone.
We will be having the prices for the V2 so no worries. same great discounts for more then one. You can have a paypal invoice here for a discount or get on ebay and etsy. (etsy not updated yet.

There is a demo of the working prototype for the sound chassis. its 50% done in RnD. I hope you enjoy the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1yFIsmokQs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1tv1WAqzitLLI9cgDvTyvIJcEQjby9FQ_2S6HQWaN_hSJOgtqDHZMAMTA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1yFIsmokQs&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1tv1WAqzitLLI9cgDvTyvIJcEQjby9FQ_2S6HQWaN_hSJOgtqDHZMAMTA#)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: chalion on September 11, 2020, 08:00:29 PM
Interesting concept for the sound chassis set up. I agree the tape used by US to complete their electronic installs can be annoying because it's not always the same so it can cause problems with making a chassis to use for every hilt they sell.

I've used heat shrink tubing to replace that tape because it's more uniform, more secure and doesn't "sweat" like the adhesive the tape uses. I guess tape is faster and cheaper to use.





Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: digitalsithlord on September 11, 2020, 10:42:50 PM
This is very impressive!  I love the new v2 design and its rigidness.  I also love the new circuity design you incorporated as well, very sharp!  You have definitely taken this to a whole new level and raised the bar for everyone else.  Please keep up the innovative and creative designs.  Great job on this!!  I am looking at getting one for my Dark Graflex.  I don't do the combat thing, just swing and train with it on my own.  Again, you have done a great job and created a superb design.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Fatalis on September 12, 2020, 01:09:40 AM
HOT DANG! Sign me up for 4 of the soundboards when you get them worked out!

As an owner of 4 of the V1 chassis, I can guarantee that you will be COMPLETELY SATISFIED. The magic they put into them is amazing. Not to mention the free gifts that are included. My kids are always asking when I am going to order again, so they can get prizes, lol.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Jedi Skallagrimsson on September 12, 2020, 03:21:35 AM
As an owner of 4 of the V1 chassis, I can guarantee that you will be COMPLETELY SATISFIED. The magic they put into them is amazing. Not to mention the free gifts that are included. My kids are always asking when I am going to order again, so they can get prizes, lol.
+1 on this, own a bunch of the V1's and just placed another order for both V2's and more of the originals (can't wait to try the new V2's in my go to sabers). I love the free gifts as well, kinda hooked on the cards now  ;D.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Jedi Skallagrimsson on September 15, 2020, 07:50:21 PM
Just got my new V2 chassis in and I have to say I'm blown away! The V1's are very sturdy themselves but these V2's feel nearly indestructible. I like the printed circuitry as it looks like part of the saber itself when removing it. And as always it was very quick shipping and the extras are awesome (wondering now why I hadn't bought the cards before). Overall can't thank GM enough for the great product and the great overall experience of buying from him.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on September 16, 2020, 04:29:10 PM
Just got my new V2 chassis in and I have to say I'm blown away! The V1's are very sturdy themselves but these V2's feel nearly indestructible. I like the printed circuitry as it looks like part of the saber itself when removing it. And as always it was very quick shipping and the extras are awesome (wondering now why I hadn't bought the cards before). Overall can't thank GM enough for the great product and the great overall experience of buying from him.

you should show off your chassis and card collections. i wanna see what you have protected!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on November 05, 2020, 06:50:46 PM
Looks like we are at 33 entrys for the contest. I will be hosting the Live stream for the drawing on Monday the 16th. at that time we will give away the prizes for the contest.

Dont forget you still have time to enter if you have not already.

Lets talk about the live stream!!

I plan on hosting for an hour. in that time included with the prizes for the raffle. I will be giving away a bunch of Topps Autograph and some sketches. we will do a door prize or prizes as the hour progresses and then end with a big viewer give away to go along with the raffle.

I hope you will join us for some fun times. Talking about Ultra Sabers and what is around the corner for all of us.

Dont forget MODAY Nov 16th 2020.
time to be determined. But most likely after 7pm cst.
Leave comments suggerstions and ideas


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on November 06, 2020, 02:01:49 PM
Sounds fun!  I hope to be able to join the streaming.  What streaming platform will you use?


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on November 06, 2020, 03:53:35 PM
I will be using YouTube Live Stream. i will set up a advance premiere sometime this next week.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Cyclops942 on November 06, 2020, 05:53:40 PM
Cool!  No Facebook access required.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on November 16, 2020, 04:14:43 AM
Hey y'all.  Tomorrow's the day (Monday November 16th ) that we will be doing the live stream for our contest.  We will be streaming from 7pm CST for about an hour or so.  MsMalice will be there doing a live unboxing of her new surprise while we are streaming and will help with the giveaway.  Just to let y'all know, we will be doing another giveaway through YouTube soon, once we get closer to 500 subscribers.  Thanks for checking us out and we hope to see you all there!

Here is the link to the live stream. 
See y'all at 7 pm https://youtu.be/EEzxNCd0b0s


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on November 17, 2020, 01:07:55 AM
My Link was broken here is the now link for the giveaway

Give away is now live
https://youtu.be/hLZuwEC0pf4


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on November 17, 2020, 01:23:38 AM
Going to try one more time lol https://youtu.be/t-cxZ8QPbRU


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: SumoMonkey on December 02, 2020, 08:29:06 PM
If I wanted to order some chassis, how should I got about doing so? Should I send you a personal message for the details? Thanks in advance!
*edit* You can ignore this. It was probably a bit of a stupid question. I'll send you a personal message. I'd delete this post but I never post on here and can't figure out how to delete it so I guess it stays here.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on December 26, 2020, 06:22:38 PM
Howdy all, MS malice and my self wanted to say happy holidays to everyone. Hope everyone got the saber they wanted!!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: cameranerd74 on May 03, 2021, 08:07:40 PM
Sorry for the zombie thread but I just wanted to say USPS just dropped off a box from Ms Malice (just in time for May the 4th). Once I get these open, all of my Ultrasabers (except my Initiate v2) will have a Ms Malice chassis inside. They're a great company selling a great product. Clearly I'm a big fan.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: janx on May 04, 2021, 05:34:47 PM
I will be using YouTube Live Stream. i will set up a advance premiere sometime this next week.

I remember seeing your thread least year and it grew so it's hard to find the key part.  Are you still making these?  Where do I go to order some?  How do I know what I need?

I assume these are for stunt sabers, based on the pics.  In my last order I got a free Initiate (v2?) and free Dominix.

I assume these will help with rattle/protect the chassis.

My first pair of Obsidian v4 sabers both broke at the edge of the battery chassis where it joins the speaker housing, so I I'm more cautious this time around.

Do you make chassis for Obsidian & Diamond based setups as well?

Sorry for al the questions, and I hope you and your wife are doing well.

Janx


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: cameranerd74 on May 04, 2021, 05:42:36 PM
Are you still making these?  Where do I go to order some?  How do I know what I need?

They are. Check out GeneralMalice512 on eBay to purchase them (link below). The description tells which size fits which model. I don't know the answers to the other questions though.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224153736309 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/224153736309)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Beeblebrox on May 05, 2021, 05:54:53 AM
Awesome! This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for! Points to both of you!


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: janx on May 07, 2021, 05:36:31 PM
That was quick!  I just got my order.  They look great.  I am tempted to do a black wash over them just to fill in the circuit lines.  I like how you made them look cool, despite something that's hidden.

I have one small problem.  I don't know if I mis-specified the size, but they are too big to fit in the hilt of my Initiate and Dominix (not sure the v, these are brand new from US).

I know I typed in 85mm, which I thought was the right size.  I'll have to hunt to see if I have a metric ruler.

update (I found a metric ruler):
they are 85mm long.  and the eBay page implies this is the right size:
85mm chassis are for the models "DarkInitiate v3, Initiate v3, Dark Initiate LE v3, Initiate LE v3, Aeon v3, Dominixv3, Dominix LE v3,  Standard Battle issue (any verson)

95mm Chassis will fit all other models.

My problem is they are too wide/wrong diameter.    Even the pull grip is too wide to fit in my Initiate.

is the 95mm skinnier? Was I supposed to get that?  I just assumed I had the latest version models, could be my mistake.

Here's a pic of what my hilts are (ignore the top 2):
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0A3rVmXoAII0ey?format=jpg&name=large)


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: Beeblebrox on May 08, 2021, 02:57:01 AM
… and the eBay page implies this is the right size:
85mm chassis are for the models "DarkInitiate v3, Initiate v3, Dark Initiate LE v3, Initiate LE v3, Aeon v3, Dominixv3, Dominix LE v3,  Standard Battle issue (any verson).

Here's a pic of what my hilts are (ignore the top 2):
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0A3rVmXoAII0ey?format=jpg&name=large)
Hello there. If I’m not mistaken those bottom two hilts are V2’s, which have a slightly smaller diameter than the v3’s.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: janx on May 08, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Hello there. If I’m not mistaken those bottom two hilts are V2’s, which have a slightly smaller diameter than the v3’s.

I believe you're right.  I contacted General Malice on eBay and they're helping me fix my mistake.

Great customer service.


Title: Re: Ms. Malice's Resin chassis's
Post by: GeneralMalice- on July 01, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
Sorry for not posting in a while. It's been a minute so I wanted to say hi since I do see some of you guys off site.
We have a new custom US we will post pictures of that we are going to finish this week. We hope everyone will like what we present.  Ms.Malice has been working on this on and off for almost a year. But it should be worth the wild. A new chassis is involved. But this is for a custom build so not the US card chassis as of yet. That thing is tought to design with all the little things we have to account for. But none the less. We will have some great photos soon. Thank all who reach out over ebay. Its fun sending out chassis to new and old members alike.!!