What are everyone's prefered forms of Saber Combat?

[Faa-Yal Dragu]

If possible, I would very much like to see your version of Niman. : )

i have a week off from family and children as they are all off to disneyland paris next week. my sparring partner and i will be videoing a few saber battles, i will put a couple up. he uses saberstaff juyo (his interpretation)vs my single saber niman.

[Vael]

Shii-Cho for me. I have just started really getting into saber combat, and discovered Terra Prime thanks to this forum. I understand that Shii-Cho is the foundation for all else, and want to train myself in that to get good form before I start trying anything fancy. But in the end I would like to be a Juyo user, since I am more of a Sith person and prefer to be on the attack.

[Daven Vash]

my sparring partner and i will be videoing a few saber battles, i will put a couple up. he uses saberstaff juyo (his interpretation)vs my single saber niman.

That sounds awesome! : D

I have just started really getting into saber combat, and discovered Terra Prime thanks to this forum. I understand that Shii-Cho is the foundation for all else, and want to train myself in that to get good form before I start trying anything fancy. But in the end I would like to be a Juyo user, since I am more of a Sith person and prefer to be on the attack.

A very sound plan. : )

Though I feel, as a Jedi, I should attempt to convince you to leave the darkness of the Sith behind. : p

[Vael]

Sometimes we have to open ourselves to a broader way of thinking. Not just the dogmatic ways of the Jedi.

[Daven Vash]

Sometimes we have to open ourselves to a broader way of thinking. Not just the dogmatic ways of the Jedi.

Honestly, I agree. Hence the reason I have rejected the more known version of the Jedi Code, in favor of the older (less restricting) one. : p

[Khalis Artel]

As for myself, I am a Djem So specialized fighter, though I tear out bits of makashi, Soresu, Ataru, and Shien to help refine my fighting style and turn my weaknesses (shortness, less lower body flexibility) into strengths. That said, I am a strong proponent of the idea that swordsmen should master all the forms, both individually and collectively (using one style at a time and then them all) to fully round out one's skills, regardless of your natural abilities in them. I'm still on the individually part; hence my downright shameful understanding of Niman.
 

Sometimes we have to open ourselves to a broader way of thinking. Not just the dogmatic ways of the Jedi.

The greatest weakness of the Jedi is that they fear the dark. It is what led to their downfall in ROTS according to the book (and if you analyze it from my personal perspective). They became fearful, untrusting, stubborn, and couldn't rally their efforts to defeat the single sith lurking in arms reach.
Hence their failing. Don't embrace the dark side, but be aware of its reach and its true potential, and it is nothing to you. Thats my philosophy for today.

My friend Khalis often argues that I'm a Niman practitioner, because I will use any of the first five forms based on what's appropriate to the situation. Though I disagree. I feel that because my philosophical approach to combat mostly resembles Ataru, I am an Ataru user. So, I would say what Form you "use" is more about how you approach combat, mentally, rather than the techniques you use. Though techniques definitely play a large role. : p

That being said, based on the way you've described how you came about using your style, it makes perfect sense that you consider yourself a Niman user.

If possible, I would very much like to see your version of Niman. : )

True, I do say that alot. Mostly because his fighting style, even if he can't see it, remains very adaptive, and formless. His movement doesn't become defined except at the last few moments of his movement, making it hard to predict where he'll go, which to me is the focus of Niman. But the decision is yours; I am just trying to categorize what I see, and what I see is constantly changing.

If I still hold to my belief of you being a Form VI user, I would emphasize that you heavily use Form IV. Though you could be like Obi-Wan; he specialized in Soresu but was a master of Ataru, Niman, and Shien. Oh wait, those are all forms you care about. Neat. Your now the Obiwan in our group
lol

[Daven Vash]

Your now the Obiwan in our group
lol

Crap... I was going for Jolee Bindo... Oh well. lol : p

[Khalis Artel]

When Your old, crotchety, annoying, senile... then I'll call you Jolee Bindo

[Daven Vash]

When Your old, crotchety, annoying, senile... then I'll call you Jolee Bindo

I'll hold you to that. lol

[Vael]

 
The greatest weakness of the Jedi is that they fear the dark. It is what led to their downfall in ROTS according to the book (and if you analyze it from my personal perspective). They became fearful, untrusting, stubborn, and couldn't rally their efforts to defeat the single sith lurking in arms reach.
Hence their failing. Don't embrace the dark side, but be aware of its reach and its true potential, and it is nothing to you. Thats my philosophy for today.

This is going to be confusing with two people on the forum named Vael. Didn't notice it before. Anyway, I tend to believe that the Jedi fell because Palpatine, not their own feelings. After all it was Palpatine's plans that led to them being fearful, untrusting, and stubborn yes? I don't think the dark side is all about finding great power, but also hiding it in order to find the right time to strike. Which I guess Juyo isn't the best form for that 

[Khalis Artel]

This is going to be confusing with two people on the forum named Vael. Didn't notice it before. Anyway, I tend to believe that the Jedi fell because Palpatine, not their own feelings. After all it was Palpatine's plans that led to them being fearful, untrusting, and stubborn yes? I don't think the dark side is all about finding great power, but also hiding it in order to find the right time to strike. Which I guess Juyo isn't the best form for that 

True, Palpatine led them to that state with his plan. But would they have been as susceptible to his manipulations if they hadn't constantly shunned, ignored, and rejected their own feelings? I have found that the greater knowledge of one's own emotions, desires, motivations, and vices can enable one to be unafraid. In short; know your enemy. This still holds true even more so when the enemy can be yourself as much as someone else.

Anakins flaws were his greatest enemy, tearing him apart from the inside out. Sidious just pushed and plotted for those weaknesses to be un-fixed and weaker so that he could take advantage of them when the time was right.

Like only using a secret passage to gain access to a castle when the King was asleep in said castle. One could use the passage to take the castle at anytime, but to take it when the King is there is a vastly greater victory.

But in that analogy, had the defenders known of the secret passageway, would they be caught unawares? Possibly, but far less likely.

I digress, but those are my thoughts on the Jedi. I am one, I just don't think the classical Jedi view was sufficient.

[Daven Vash]

I like to pretend that the prequels don't exist... So... Yeah... lol

[Vael]

Revenge of the Sith is good. The other two are worth forgetting.

[Master Bluespike74]

I think what many people overlook in the Prequels is the Prophecy of the Chosen One.  Anakin was allowed to do things that would have caused others not to be trained or passed to the level of Knight. 

I think this can be seen today in the fact that certain people are allowed to get away with not obeying rules because of whom they know or to whom they are related while others are required to follow said rules.

We all know someone who is currently in a seat of power or control and our first reaction is "I wonder who they knew to get this job." 

Yoda had a firm belief that age was a great factor in the training of a Jedi.  I was late in life staring my martial arts career and sometimes it is frustrating to take lessons from someone ten years your junior but I have to remember that age does not always equal wisdom and talent and therefore when I let go of the pride, I can be properly trained. 

Anakin was frustrated because there were people his age that were much more advanced in title and assignments than he was and therefore it left him open for Sith manipulation of his insecurities. 

[RevanChrist]

Anakin was frustrated because there were people his age that were much more advanced in title and assignments than he was and therefore it left him open for Sith manipulation of his insecurities. 

Yes BUT, Anakin also had a myriad of badassed jedi who would and did train him to overcome this. Toss the whole phophecy thing out and let your mind wander to what he might have been without falling to the Sith. Could this Jedi alone once and for all crushed them? prolly should stick this convo elsewhere.