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« on: December 19, 2012, 05:24:17 PM » |
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Hello, fellow saber enthusiasts. After having trained for 4 weeks, I finally managed the 4th Trajectory of TPLA's Dulon (which I've watched on youtube, 'cause I live in Germany  ). Following a fellow forum member's advice, I'm now posting a video of my progress so far, mainly to get some constructive feedback on it. (But, man, you should see my spins  ) Especially thankful I would be for any advice from our Resident Masters (Master Nonymous, can you hear me???  ) to improve my technique. So here I go ... Feedback me
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 05:39:15 PM » |
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I'm no Master but that looks pretty good for 4 weeks. It's a lot to remember especially from watching videos, you have to stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. LOL You get a point for effort and confidence to upload it for critique, as well as adding multiple angles for us to watch from 
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 06:20:45 PM » |
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Excellent work! Very impressive for only 4 weeks out! You seem to understand the basics behind the movements. Again Nice job.
As far as what to work on, I will say that your footwork should take precedence over everything. I would advise keeping a narrower stance side to side. If looking on ward, don't let your heels go outside of your hips or cross each other. The set is very linear so think of a hallway that you are moving though. This will give your hips more room to turn and thus. make the strikes stronger and faster with less effort.
Second on the jewels to put yourself out there!
I wish I could give you 5 points: 1 for effort 1 for technique and 3 for good lighting!
Alas, have one.
Great work! Keep it up!
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 05:44:15 AM » |
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Excellent work! Very impressive for only 4 weeks out! You seem to understand the basics behind the movements. Again Nice job.
Your humble student, Master! As far as what to work on, I will say that your footwork should take precedence over everything. I would advise keeping a narrower stance side to side. If looking on ward, don't let your heels go outside of your hips or cross each other. The set is very linear so think of a hallway that you are moving though. This will give your hips more room to turn and thus. make the strikes stronger and faster with less effort.
OF course, you have a point here. Indeed I have mainly concentrated on the upper body movements, neglecting my footwork. I'm looking very much forward to integrating your sound advice into my training in the next few weeks (if I fully understand it, which I don't know after just reading; practice will show!  ). Thank you very much, Master Nonymous. I wish I could give you 5 points: 1 for effort 1 for technique and 3 for good lighting!
Good I was so patient. Was about to post 3/4 th of the Dulon, filmed in a pitch black night in the snow (man, did it shine) ! Great work! Keep it up!
Master, I will!  I'm no Master but that looks pretty good for 4 weeks. It's a lot to remember especially from watching videos, you have to stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. LOL You get a point for effort and confidence to upload it for critique, as well as adding multiple angles for us to watch from  stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again.  Thanks a lot for your appreciation!
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2012, 02:58:38 AM » |
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I have to agree with Master Nonymous and Kham, you've done an exceptional job learning the material. My only thought is to keep a slightly lower center of gravity, keeping you knees bent, and focus on the footwork aspect as Master Nonymous mentioned. Your bladework is very good, especially for someone just now learning from TPLA, so once you get the movement down you will be in excellent shape. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again. stop it, watch it again, stop it, watch it again.  I've done the same thing at times, and I know how tedious that can be. That you memorized it so soundly is impressive enough, but the motions are really quite natural as well. I think you're coming along very nicely! Keep watching the video, and keep practicing the motions... over and over and over again, until they feel natural to you. Then practice some more! It sounds like torture, but it's really the best way to learn. Also, the more videos you post here the more critique you will get, which will only help facilitate your training, as it will help you to move in the right direction.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2012, 03:45:40 AM » |
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Bravo (point!) And thank you for offering this up, with good production quality.
The others have already covered the feedback I might have offered. Footwork, practice it, learn it, love it.
Keep up the great work.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2012, 07:37:57 PM » |
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My dear Masters Nero Attoru and VorNach, thank you both for your kind words of encouragement. @Master Nero Attoru: lowering my center of gravity will probably go along with Master Nonymous' advice very well, so I will try to integrate both aspects at once, knowing that it will mean learning it anew step by step (literally!  ), but that's exactly the kind of advice I had hoped for. @Master VorNach: ... and love it I will! 
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2012, 07:55:53 PM » |
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4 weeks!? *jaw drops* Phenomenal, Darth Sabre!! It took me several years to get to where you are right now; keep up the awesome work!! 
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 05:27:07 AM » |
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Very great work! I can sympathize (being I am another student in exile) with the whole watch, pause, unpause and watch again because I forgot what I just watched, and attempt. Wash, rinse, and repeat. It is hard and requires a lot of patience.
And a point to you for filming and allowing us to watch!
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 09:35:10 AM » |
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Thanks again for the appreciation! 4 weeks!? *jaw drops* Phenomenal, Darth Sabre!! It took me several years to get to where you are right now; keep up the awesome work!!  Well, it's been 4/5 weeks I've been into the Dulon itself; of course I did some swordplay/work before, mainly practicing cuts ("Haue") with a 1 1/2-hander, so I wasn't beginning from scratch!  And a point to you for filming and allowing us to watch!
I must say I feel very safe within this forum with all the open-minded and positive people around, and of course with our experienced and highly engaged Resident Masters!
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 02:45:56 PM » |
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My dear Master Nonymous, after having watched your step-by-step tutorial video again, I must admit: you REALLY have feet (and they are on the vid indeed) !!!  So I took a closer look to wonder about the 14 (at least that's what I counted) different foot positions in the FIRST TRAJECTORY alone! So I tried to get them on a piece of paper for not having to turn the computer on so often. Though this was meant as a guideline for me, I thought others might be interested/ might profit from it as well, so here is what I did.   Actually, I think it's not easy to understand on the first glimpse, 'cause I was focused on the position of the feet (side to side), not primarily on the progress in the room. For example: steps 2, 3a and 3b show the right feet in the same position, only pointing in three different directions.  If anyone wants to have the pictures in a bigger format, feel free to email me, and I will send them. And another question: I saw mentioned in a TPLA video, that footwork concerning the Dulon is (apart from the "basic footwork for lightsaber" which I 've just found) featured in a video about Shii Cho basic strikes, which I cannot watch on youtube (due to music copyright issues in Germany...  ). Is there any way to watch that video somewhere else? And, of course: MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YE ALL!!! 
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 03:32:01 PM » |
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Though this was meant as a guideline for me, I thought others might be interested/ might profit from it as well, so here is what I did. Wow!! That is amazing stuff! It is, as you say, a little hard to follow, but still very well done indeed. Point to you for putting it together!
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 04:10:21 PM » |
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My dear Master Nonymous, after having watched your step-by-step tutorial video again, I must admit: you REALLY have feet (and they are on the vid indeed) !!!  So I took a closer look to wonder about the 14 (at least that's what I counted) different foot positions in the FIRST TRAJECTORY alone! So I tried to get them on a piece of paper for not having to turn the computer on so often. Though this was meant as a guideline for me, I thought others might be interested/ might profit from it as well, so here is what I did.   Actually, I think it's not easy to understand on the first glimpse, 'cause I was focused on the position of the feet (side to side), not primarily on the progress in the room. For example: steps 2, 3a and 3b show the right feet in the same position, only pointing in three different directions.  If anyone wants to have the pictures in a bigger format, feel free to email me, and I will send them. And another question: I saw mentioned in a TPLA video, that footwork concerning the Dulon is (apart from the "basic footwork for lightsaber" which I 've just found) featured in a video about Shii Cho basic strikes, which I cannot watch on youtube (due to music copyright issues in Germany...  ). Is there any way to watch that video somewhere else? And, of course: MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YE ALL!!!  Very nice. I will definitely take a look at that and see if I have any suggestions. Yeah, sorry about that. GEMA doesn't like me using Lucasfilm music because they are protecting the rights of corporations..er eh hem.. I mean artists. I will be uploading another video soon with the basic level of Shii-cho done as a study guide. Merry Christmas to you as well and a happy Festivus for the rest of us! 
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 11:33:00 AM » |
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Hi! This is another approach, maybe a touch better to follow  but definitely a touch better to integrate any suggestions!  Now the progress in the room is visible too! Will now work on a similar plan for the other trajectories!
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2012, 01:45:45 PM » |
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One thing to think about as you do this is weight distribution. Which foot is most of the weight on with each step.
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