Li-Ion Battery Setup HIGHLY RECOMMENDED (Please Read Me)

[Master Bluespike74]

Can I use the li-on batts for a grab bag saber,or will I need to run it on ni-mh cells,I take it grab bags don't use the buck pucks ? 
Also if I get a recharge plug in my next saber ,can I still remove the batts to charge in the standard charger,?

If your saber does not come initially with Li-Ion Batteries, you cannot use them unless you change the resistance setup.  Most Grab Bag sabers come with Alkaline batteries and you can replace those with NIMH batteries to save money long term. 

To my knowledge, you can remove the batteries and charge them in a Trustfire charger even if you have a Recharge port installed.  I am not really sure why you would want to do this but I believe it is possible.

Blue

[eerockk]

Grab bags only run on standard setups, so the NiMH are needed there. Only use LiON batteries with LiON setups! The voltages are very different and you will damage a standard setup with LiONs. Also, buck pucks are only used in LiON setups so you won't see them in a grab bag. (Unless it's a rare grab bag with a LiON setup - they are rare but have happened before).

The batteries are still able to be removed as usual even if there is a charge port. (You'd still have to take the pommel off to access the Obsidian's USB if equipped).

Edit: Blue just beat me to it!

[James Casey]

I'm awaiting arrival of my Aeon LE, which I presume uses the alkaline batteries. I'm sure that I saw a post on here recommending a specific set of batteries for non-Li-ion setups, but can't find it anywhere.

Is there a consensus on which are the best rechargables to use? I'm in Britain so may have different brands then folks in the States, but any guidance is welcome.

[Master Bluespike74]

I'm awaiting arrival of my Aeon LE, which I presume uses the alkaline batteries. I'm sure that I saw a post on here recommending a specific set of batteries for non-Li-ion setups, but can't find it anywhere.

Is there a consensus on which are the best rechargables to use? I'm in Britain so may have different brands then folks in the States, but any guidance is welcome.

When I purchase sabers with alkaline setups and want to use them long term, I opt to purchase NIMH batteries for replacements.  The voltage is slightly lower than a standard alkaline but I can certainly charge them for cheaper than I can continue to purchase replacement disposables. 

Everyone has their likes and dislikes about brands so I won't endorse a single brand. 

[Y2KDragon]

I think I may have zorched my batteries already.  Got the e-mail this week about not keeping the Lithium batteries in the saber.  Well, took them out and one of them was down, the other had "full" charge.  Gave them a long sit in the charger overnight.  Well, the sound now works, but no light.  I'm thinking that one of the batteries lost enough that it doesn't provide enough to power the LED.  I'll own that, but before I go laying out for new batteries, I'd like to be more certain that's likely the cause.

[Master Bluespike74]

I would say that is certainly what has happened. 

[Y2KDragon]

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Wife has a basic setup for her's, and she left batteries in for a while.  The purple turned into red when the batteries were low.  so, I figured something similar if my own batteries were bad.  I'll get myself some replacements.  Amazon.com has some good prices, even when buying from a US company.  I want to get some good shots with my Ultrasaber and my new costume soon.  Thanks.

[Master Bluespike74]

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Wife has a basic setup for her's, and she left batteries in for a while.  The purple turned into red when the batteries were low.  so, I figured something similar if my own batteries were bad.  I'll get myself some replacements.  Amazon.com has some good prices, even when buying from a US company.  I want to get some good shots with my Ultrasaber and my new costume soon.  Thanks.

No problem.  Have a great day and happy sabering.  Also looking forward to those pics.

Blue

[Y2KDragon]

Follow up to before.  I got the new batteries.  TF14500, 3.7v 900mhz and gave them a full charge.  Nothing happens when they are in the saber.  I want to know if there is a difference between the TF and the TR14500 batteries.  They are both TrustFire, and everything else is pretty much the same.  The only difference I can see is the very top (+ side) of the battery is different but only slightly.  Is that causing a contact issue?  If that is the case, I'm having a very hard time finding the right replacement batteries, and it seems that the only way I can get replacements is to buy them with another charger from UltraSabers.

[jonesy360]

Follow up to before.  I got the new batteries.  TF14500, 3.7v 900mhz and gave them a full charge.  Nothing happens when they are in the saber.  I want to know if there is a difference between the TF and the TR14500 batteries.  They are both TrustFire, and everything else is pretty much the same.  The only difference I can see is the very top (+ side) of the battery is different but only slightly.  Is that causing a contact issue?  If that is the case, I'm having a very hard time finding the right replacement batteries, and it seems that the only way I can get replacements is to buy them with another charger from UltraSabers.

you dont have to buy batts with the charger at US,just buy the batts ,they are very cheap,go to build my own lightsaber

[Y2KDragon]

Thank you to everyone for the info.  It was in fact the wrong battery style.  I now have the right ones, and everything is working beautifully.

[Genkaku Sho`shyk]

this may have already been stated... but i cant find a tab for a fully built li-ion/buck/soundboard package on the sight... can i buy all these items and have you put them together for me for a small fee?.. i just dont have the tools to do the work here at home... thanks for checking

[Finfan1uk]

Follow up to before.  I got the new batteries.  TF14500, 3.7v 900mhz and gave them a full charge.  Nothing happens when they are in the saber.  I want to know if there is a difference between the TF and the TR14500 batteries.  They are both TrustFire, and everything else is pretty much the same.  The only difference I can see is the very top (+ side) of the battery is different but only slightly.  Is that causing a contact issue?  If that is the case, I'm having a very hard time finding the right replacement batteries, and it seems that the only way I can get replacements is to buy them with another charger from UltraSabers.

Howdy...I'm having the exact same issue that you had. I'm glad i checked this thread as i think i was just about to buy the TF14500 which you said would not work. Are these the batteries you bought that did not work?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360613094281?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I also have the same question do i have to use TR14500 cause the only place i can find them is the ultra sabers store and shipping to the uk is ridiculous for just a couple of batteries.... I can find the silver trust fire 14500 3.7V like this

http://www.focalprice.com/EB138S/Trustfire_14500_37V_900mAh_PCB_Rechargeable_Battery_2Pack.html?Currency=GBP

Are they the same?

P.s apologies if I'm being a bit dumb...

[Frozian]

is it necessaryy to have recharge ports for this, and if so do i need the charger that comes with it, or can i just  take out the battery and use the normal universal charger

[James Casey]

You don't need a recharge port at all - the batteries can be removed relatively easy (pop some tape on them the first time to make future removals easier).

I can't speak for any other charger, but the US one seems to work well to me - my first time charging my Bellicose' batteries was quicker than I expected.

A recharge port does mean that the 'sabre should never run down, of course, and will always be ready for the fight. If you're a heavy user, it may be worth it, though.