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Master Nero Attoru
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« on: April 11, 2014, 12:25:33 AM »

Not sure the best spot for this, so I figured Bragging Rights was a safe bet.  Just wanted to share a pic of what I got in the mail today... Longclaw from Game of Thrones, the sword of Jon Snow.



This thing is bigger than I expected, and pretty heavy (not something I'd use for combat), but then again in the show (and books) it's made out of Valyrian Steel so I would imagine it's lighter.  Despite the heft, I love it!  Now I just gotta find a good place on the wall for it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 01:04:37 AM »

stats ?
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2014, 01:08:16 AM »

I don't mean to sound rude but bastard swords tent to be pretty long and heavy, I don't think I could effectively fight with one but I would love to try.

also your are a lucky son of a gun, I want one!
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2014, 01:34:54 AM »

I don't mean to sound rude but bastard swords tent to be pretty long and heavy, I don't think I could effectively fight with one but I would love to try.

also your are a lucky son of a gun, I want one!

Yeah I realize, I have a trainer that I use a bit, but this one is definitely off balance.  Certainly more of a wall hanger than something made for combat.

stats ?

Overall Length: 45 3/8'' Blade: 34 3/8''    
Weight: 4 lb 6 oz
Edge: Unsharpened
P.O.B.: 7''
Thickness: 5.2 mm - 5.7 mm
Width: 56 mm
Grip Length: 5 1/2''
Pommel: Threaded and Glued
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2014, 03:00:20 AM »

I don't mean to sound rude but bastard swords tent to be pretty long and heavy, I don't think I could effectively fight with one but I would love to try.

Bastard swords can actually vary quite a bit. I've got a Tinker and and Atrim that are both very nimble.

Yeah I realize, I have a trainer that I use a bit, but this one is definitely off balance.  Certainly more of a wall hanger than something made for combat.

Overall Length: 45 3/8'' Blade: 34 3/8''    
Weight: 4 lb 6 oz
Edge: Unsharpened
P.O.B.: 7''
Thickness: 5.2 mm - 5.7 mm
Width: 56 mm
Grip Length: 5 1/2''
Pommel: Threaded and Glued

Wow, yeah that is pretty darn heavy.

Very cool though.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 03:06:21 AM »

Bastard swords can actually vary quite a bit. I've got a Tinker and and Atrim that are both very nimble.

of course they do, people vary greatly in size, but they are definitely not waisters.
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2014, 04:35:36 AM »

of course they do, people vary greatly in size

Well, I don't vary in size at all, by my bastards have.  Cheesy

Anyways, it sounded like he was under the impression that bastard swords were mostly heavy. Not so.

Part of the confusion may be because the term 'bastard sword' has been used over the past century to mean different things.  Some have used it to mean the same as 'longsword' (a sword that is not necessarily heavy either), but that definition seems to have become a lot less common in recent times, at least in the 20 years since I've been in the WMA community. After all, we have the term 'longsword' for that, and the German longsword tradition is pretty well-recognized these days, so we might as well use 'bastard' to mean something else, I guess. That's the rationale I keep hearing. So a lot of modern practitioners/swordmakers simply use the term 'bastard sword' to mean a sword that isn't quite a longsword but isn't quite a single-hander either... it's usually somewhere in between.

Personally, I find the latter definition to be the most useful, and apparently Master Trim finds it useful too, as I've had at least half a dozen bastards he's made that are quite maneuverable and quick. Some were truly 'hand-and-a-half' swords, while others were more-or-less the size of longswords, but lighter and easier to use in one hand. And then of course the Hanwei/Tinker bastards are insanely fast...  Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 09:52:07 PM »

Well, I don't vary in size at all, by my bastards have.  Cheesy

Anyways, it sounded like he was under the impression that bastard swords were mostly heavy. Not so.

Part of the confusion may be because the term 'bastard sword' has been used over the past century to mean different things.  Some have used it to mean the same as 'longsword' (a sword that is not necessarily heavy either), but that definition seems to have become a lot less common in recent times, at least in the 20 years since I've been in the WMA community. After all, we have the term 'longsword' for that, and the German longsword tradition is pretty well-recognized these days, so we might as well use 'bastard' to mean something else, I guess. That's the rationale I keep hearing. So a lot of modern practitioners/swordmakers simply use the term 'bastard sword' to mean a sword that isn't quite a longsword but isn't quite a single-hander either... it's usually somewhere in between.

Personally, I find the latter definition to be the most useful, and apparently Master Trim finds it useful too, as I've had at least half a dozen bastards he's made that are quite maneuverable and quick. Some were truly 'hand-and-a-half' swords, while others were more-or-less the size of longswords, but lighter and easier to use in one hand. And then of course the Hanwei/Tinker bastards are insanely fast...  Shocked


Yeah, the closest I have for comparison is my Hanwei Practical Hand and a Half, and that feels like a feather after swinging Longclaw around a bit.  The design is clearly meant for show rather than use - in the series they use aluminum weapons during combat for safety, so I'm sure that would give it a much better balance than stainless steel.
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