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Author Topic: Saber customizations, that make them look more like they do on screen.  (Read 79414 times)
BlindJedi
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« Reply #165 on: April 05, 2016, 08:32:08 PM »

Are the pommels on the Mantis body colored?
Is the pommel on the CE Mantis silver with silver spikes?
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« Reply #166 on: April 05, 2016, 08:46:23 PM »

No for the first and yes for second. The only mantises with colored pommels are the Dark, Crimson, and Azure
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« Reply #167 on: April 05, 2016, 08:47:50 PM »

I'll try to do the chosen one in a couple of days. I am currently swamped in school papers so i'll get to it ASAP.
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« Reply #168 on: April 05, 2016, 08:58:29 PM »

No for the first and yes for second. The only mantises with colored pommels are the Dark, Crimson, and Azure
So, let me get this straight.  The Crimson, Azure, and Dark pommels are Crimson, Azure, and black with silver spikes.
So, the CE is silver with silver spikes.  Is it possible to paint the spikes?
Say I want to request a silver pommel, and then paint the spikes black to match a saber like the Archon, or gold to match a saber like the Aeon LE.
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« Reply #169 on: April 05, 2016, 10:06:08 PM »

So, let me get this straight.  The Crimson, Azure, and Dark pommels are Crimson, Azure, and black with silver spikes.
So, the CE is silver with silver spikes.  Is it possible to paint the spikes?
Say I want to request a silver pommel, and then paint the spikes black to match a saber like the Archon, or gold to match a saber like the Aeon LE.
Yes, Yes, and Yes! For painting you will need enamel paint and a clear coat.
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« Reply #170 on: April 07, 2016, 02:24:06 AM »

Here's a strange couple questions:
1. Where should the Covertec wheel be placed on a saber if it is going to be a staff?
2.  Instead of a covertec wheel, or d-ring, what are some other ways to carry a saber?
3.  What kind of paint could I use on a saber that wouldn't rub off when the saber is used?
4.  Which sabers from US are immediately recognized, and shouldn't be in a non SW film?
5. Is the gold on the Sentinal LE, and the gold on the Shock LE the same color?
Thanks for all of your amazing answers.
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« Reply #171 on: April 07, 2016, 02:51:43 AM »

Here's a strange couple questions:
1. Where should the Covertec wheel be placed on a saber if it is going to be a staff?
2.  Instead of a covertec wheel, or d-ring, what are some other ways to carry a saber?
3.  What kind of paint could I use on a saber that wouldn't rub off when the saber is used?
4.  Which sabers from US are immediately recognized, and shouldn't be in a non SW film?
5. Is the gold on the Sentinal LE, and the gold on the Shock LE the same color?
Thanks for all of your amazing answers.

2. You could use Maglite belt clips, or a baton sheath.
5. I've heard that the Shock LE's gold is significantly dimmer than the Sentinel LE's gold.
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« Reply #172 on: April 07, 2016, 06:00:07 AM »

Here's a strange couple questions:
1. Where should the Covertec wheel be placed on a saber if it is going to be a staff?
Darth Maul's was at one end, near the emitter.  That would be my suggestion; it means it hangs down lower, but the more length you have pointing down, the less it would want to twist itself around while you're moving.

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2.  Instead of a covertec wheel, or d-ring, what are some other ways to carry a saber?
BurceChuat's suggestions are what come to mind to me.  You could do something like pouches on your back (similar to how you sometimes see swords carried across the back) but that seems more "cool" than "practical".  Yoda carried his in his sash, although it seems like it might get tangled if used by anybody less cool than Yoda.  Wink  (And by "anybody less cool" in this case, I really mean anybody who isn't CGI!)

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3.  What kind of paint could I use on a saber that wouldn't rub off when the saber is used?
I can't help there--it's something I expect to find out myself for an upcoming project, if I ever get around to it. Wink

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4.  Which sabers from US are immediately recognized, and shouldn't be in a non SW film?
Depends on your threshold for "immediately recognized".  Consular, Guardian, Menace, Graflex, and Chosen One are all very close to movie sabers, and Omen is clearly the Thundercats' Sword of Omens.  Getting a Crimson or Azure Menace as a single hilt might lessen the resemblance enough to make it not obviously Maul's saber.  Both Archon variants are close to Luke's ROTJ saber, but not identical, particularly in lacking activation boxes; you could probably get away with them (especially the Archon v2.1) as being clearly lightsaber-ish but not exactly the same, particularly if you swapped pommels.

Beyond those are some, such as the Raven and Malice, that are very close to lesser-known sabers from Star Wars.  (In this case, both are from games rather than the movies.)  Then there are the crossguard designs, the Flamberge and Renegade; these will remind people of Kylo Ren, but they're not exact replicas of any canon saber thus far.

Of course, the true saber nerds will recognize anything you use unless you mill your own entirely-unique design, but I don't think anybody who say "wait, go back... That's totally an Ultrasabers Scorpion!" is going to follow that with anything but "that's awesome, I'm going to go post that on SaberForum", so I don't think that's something to worry about.  Wink

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5. Is the gold on the Sentinal LE, and the gold on the Shock LE the same color?
5. I've heard that the Shock LE's gold is significantly dimmer than the Sentinel LE's gold.
As a rule, the older the saber, the less vivid the gold.  Aeon/Initiate LE v2s are the oldest gold-trim sabers still in production, and it's clearly golden, but pale.  Aeon/Initiate LE v3 and Shock LE are kind of a deep gold.  The LE v4s are a bright gold.  I think that the v3s and the Shock LE are the same, but to be safe, I wouldn't count on any gold matching except for the sabers that are explicitly designed to match: the Aeon LE and Initiate LE within each generation, and the Sentinel LE to match the Apprentice LE.
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« Reply #173 on: April 07, 2016, 11:13:54 PM »

Thanks guys for the awesome suggestions.
I may have to use some of the pouches to carry the sabers that don't have covertec wheels.
But, I do have a couple quick questions.
1. If I were to make a staff out of the Guardian, would it look ok, or too wierd?
2.  How could I use the Consular in the films without people thinking it is a QuiGan saber?
I was trying to talk US into anadizing the shroud black or gold, and leaving the body silver, but, Emery and the gang say no.
My other idea, was to get some shroud material from the custom saber shop and mill my own shroud.  Something that looks completely different then the QuiGan saber, but uses the Consular body.
3.  Speaking of shrouds, is it possible to add a shroud to any other saber?
I'd have to mill my own shroud, but I think I could come up with something that works with a standard saber.
4.  I was planning on giving a Knight two Archon V2.1s with Guardian pommels, and Dark Shock emitters, would this look ok?
I plan to remove the neck and emitters and put them onto two Dark Menaces.
Thanks again guys for the amazing answers, descriptions, suggestions, etc.
You're all awesome.
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« Reply #174 on: April 08, 2016, 05:54:45 AM »

To Answer question 2: Simply take off the silver shroud and it's a completely different saber.

Question 3: Many members use PVC to make shrouds.

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« Reply #175 on: April 08, 2016, 10:22:11 PM »

My props to Greg on the Consular without shroud, I was actually thinking the same thing last night.  It also hit me, to add the shrouds onto an SI or dark SI.  Not sure if they would fit, but it would look pretty cool to have a Consular shroud on an SI.
I also thought of putting a custom self made shroud on the SIs, in either black or really dark grey.  I'd either get the material from TCSS or a hardware store.
When it comes down to it, it looks like I may be purchasing a dozen or so SIs, and modifying them with shrouds, wraps, additional grip parts, rings, ribs, etc. etc. etc.
So about the Guardian, would it look good as a staff?
Can the shrouds be removed for painting?
Thanks again guys for all of the wonderful answers, descriptions, ideas, suggestions, etc.
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« Reply #176 on: April 09, 2016, 01:12:02 AM »

Guardian staff would be great! I don't think it would look weird, it would just be massive.

For PVC shrouds, most people paint them before they put them on.

A Dozen SIs. Nice!
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« Reply #177 on: April 09, 2016, 02:58:19 AM »

Can the Consular's shroud fit on an SI comfortably, without falling off, or being too loose?
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« Reply #178 on: April 09, 2016, 02:18:58 PM »

Can the Consular's shroud fit on an SI comfortably, without falling off, or being too loose?


It should fit, but wouldn't stay on by itself. On the Consular it is held on by the covertec wheel on the back.
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« Reply #179 on: April 10, 2016, 04:41:09 AM »

I was going through my files with the saber descriptions I have copied from this thread, and there are a few missing.
The list of sabers I would like descriptions for is below, along with some questions about a few of them.
A. Grafflex.
B. Chosen One.
1. How much of this saber would have to change to make it a closer replica to the Episode 2 Anakin saber?
C. Guardian, but this one I have a pretty good idea of what it looks like, based on the Hasbro version from the Attack of the clones.
1. Is its shroud easily removed?
D. Omen.
1. I'm concidering removing the pommel and emitter and replacing them with something that isn't immediately recognized, but would like to use all of the versions available.  Is there any other pommels and emitters that would compliment the body and make it harder to recognize?
E. Archon V2.1.
F. Flamberge.
1. Is there any way to remove the crossguard section and just use the body?
G. Renegade
1. Same question as the Flamberge.
H. Catalyst.
1. I haven't heard anything good about this saber yet.  Anyone have anything good to say about this saber?
Thanks again to all of you that have provided incredible descriptions for this Blind Jedi.
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