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imperialknight23
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« on: September 29, 2011, 07:11:31 PM »

We have all heard of escrima, but have you heard of Espada y Daga.  This is another fighting system derived from the Philippines.

I noticed Master Caine is a filipino weapons expert and wondered if this fighting style can be adapted to lightsaber combat such as dual wielding a shoto and full size saber.  or 2 shotos, or a shoto and an even smaller blade.

For those unfamiliar, Espada Y Daga is a filipino martial art using a sword(espada) and knife/dagger (daga) simultaneously.
The principle is to be able to be effective at mid and close range with the varying lengths of weapons.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 07:13:05 PM »

Very cool idea.  I hope he does come up with something for this, I'd love to see it!  I've been thinking of using a cut down Initiate blade as an off hand, for a sort of sword and dagger approach.  This kind of thing would be quite instructional along those lines.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 07:16:43 PM »

look up some vids on youtube.  at first the way it is executed might look not very lightsaber like, but would still be a very cool concept.  It's the style i'll try to go for when i get my next initiate.  although i think a 24inch blade is much too long to consider a dagger.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 07:31:15 PM »

I've actually cut down a blade before to play with long dagger styles. It has ups and downs, but its hot if you want to close in to bad breath range. I was using an 18 incher with a 32ish main last time I messed with it, but I was actually outside with a hacksaw just now cutting on a blade that one of those barbarian woodcutters broke years ago (he is no longer welcome around these parts since he was trying to break my stuff out of spite) and I'm about to start messing with them again. I'm kinda looking to go in the 10 to 14 inch range this time.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2011, 08:24:51 PM »

Yes! Most of the veterans in NY Jedi were taught by Scott Ferrara, an eskrimador who also teaches Espada y Daga. It's one of the basis for alot of the Jar'Kai (Star Wars slang for using two weapons) that we have at the moment.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 10:45:40 PM »

One of my first tutorials was using an Ultra  Initiate and an Eskrima stick.  Wink

I should make a few more....
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2011, 01:00:57 AM »

One of my first tutorials was using an Ultra  Initiate and an Eskrima stick.  Wink

I should make a few more....

*Waves hand.* You want to make more tutorials and share them on Saber Forum. Cool
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2011, 05:19:29 AM »

One of my first tutorials was using an Ultra  Initiate and an Eskrima stick.  Wink

I should make a few more....

Please I would love to see some more stuff like that.
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« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 01:37:10 AM »

Alright, so I been cuttin', yes? I gots a ten incher that I need to grab me a tip for. Once I get tips I'll snap me some pictures and post 'em.
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 03:03:34 AM »

if it helps, extant examples of renaissance off-hand daggers used in conjunction with a rapier were anywhere from 8 inches to 17 inches in blade length.Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 03:20:27 AM »

if it helps, extant examples of renaissance off-hand daggers used in conjunction with a rapier were anywhere from 8 inches to 17 inches in blade length.Smiley

I got one on either end of that range that I'm messing with. It changes the style a bit depending on the length of both the dagger and the primary, I find... oops, posted on my girlfriend's login. Bad Jammo...
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2011, 09:40:22 PM »

Got a couple tips on an order that was just made. I'll snap some shots of them when they are ready.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2011, 10:16:58 PM »

i just cut a heavy grade down to 17 inches. its murder on a liberator hilt.Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2011, 10:55:12 PM »

i just cut a heavy grade down to 17 inches. its murder on a liberator hilt.Smiley

^Pictures... PLEASE!
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 11:57:45 PM »



This is Jammo with a dagger sans tip. Its about 10 inches, but I'm ashamed to admit that I haven't taken an exact measurement.
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