Filipino style

[SuperSword]

When somebody fights using two lightsabers, I like to call it the Filipino lightsaber style since in Filipino stick fighting (sometimes called Arnis, Kali, or Escrima), a person often fights with two sticks and sometimes swords were adapted to take the place of the sticks. Also, the fighting techniques used with two lightsabers sometimes look like they resemble Filipino stick fighting and I would think they probably base the choreography at least in part on Filipino stick fighting. In the movies the only time I can recall the Filipino lightsaber style being used is with Anakin when he went up against Count Dooku for the first time.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

OMG!

You just made friend buddy.
I use Kali and Escrima, add a little Muay Thai with some Tonfa like strikes and you get,

The Way Of The Spider

This is My Famous Reverse Grip style.


This is my standard grip.

And from the Side,

[imperialknight23]

escrima is much more quicker in execution and works more like one is using 2 blunt weapons rather than 2 long swords.  certainly the movies borrow from some elements of it, but it seems that escrima is more prominent in the real world lightsaber community.  with 2 initiates like kham has up there, held in normal grips, it would look A LOT more escrima.

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

escrima is much more quicker in execution and works more like one is using 2 blunt weapons rather than 2 long swords.  certainly the movies borrow from some elements of it, but it seems that escrima is more prominent in the real world lightsaber community.  with 2 initiates like kham has up there, held in normal grips, it would look A LOT more escrima.

With the Initiate hilts and Blades, I can get that nice, quick whip from the saber.

Also, to elaborate on what ImpKnight said. With the shorter blades I can hold them closer to my body and have much more maneuverability.

Though my reach is limited I make up for it by being outwardly aggressive in my movements, and more defensive with my strikes.

I need to close the distance quickly and get inside of their longer blade. Once your inside your golden.

I'm 5'6" so shorter blades work well in my favor. Master Nero is in the 6ft range, so his full length liberators are proportionate to his frame.

[imperialknight23]

also to elaborate back on kham, having the shorter blades closer to the body and shorter blades with his grips close to the emitter, he has a better defense.

[Master Nero Attoru]

All interesting thoughts.  In the movies you have what's called Jar'Kai, which refers to a style of utilizing two weapons.  They don't always have to be the same size - people use one long and one short for instance.  This could be based on many different styles - for instance you have Kham's dual Initiate style which is very reminiscent of Escrima, while Master Artorius uses more of a samurai sword style (Niten Ichi-ryū) with long blades.  You're right though, I believe the only usage of dual wielding in the films was Anakin vs Dooku.  Fun fact:  originally Dooku was supposed to dual wield while fighting Yoda!

Those are some cool pics Kham.  Your regular grip reminds me of Heaven and Earth, an Escrima exercise Artorius and I do sometimes with our sabers.  It's a lot of fun!

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

All interesting thoughts.  In the movies you have what's called Jar'Kai, which refers to a style of utilizing two weapons.  They don't always have to be the same size - people use one long and one short for instance.  This could be based on many different styles - for instance you have Kham's dual Initiate style which is very reminiscent of Escrima, while Master Artorius uses more of a samurai sword style (Niten Ichi-ryū) with long blades.  You're right though, I believe the only usage of dual wielding in the films was Anakin vs Dooku.  Fun fact:  originally Dooku was supposed to dual wield while fighting Yoda!

Those are some cool pics Kham.  Your regular grip reminds me of Heaven and Earth, an Escrima exercise Artorius and I do sometimes with our sabers.  It's a lot of fun!

If you watch close in the arena scene there is a Jedi in the background reverse dual wielding. I believe it's near the 3PO and R2 snippit.

Thank you Master. How is the exercise performed or can I just google it?

[Master Nero Attoru]

If you watch close in the arena scene there is a Jedi in the background reverse dual wielding. I believe it's near the 3PO and R2 snippit.

Thank you Master. How is the exercise performed or can I just google it?

Well Art and I have been meaning to make a video... we'll get around to that next time we hang.  Here is a decent vid where this guy shows how it's done:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLNeL0NbpA" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLNeL0NbpA</a>

It's essentially six hit pattern that you can continuously do.  I'll let Artorius elaborate, as he's the one who taught it to me (the martial artist) but here's another vid, of two kids doing essentially what we do... except we use lightsabers so it's more awesome

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQ1SoyvX9o" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkQ1SoyvX9o</a>

[Kham-Ryn Kurios]

OOOOOOOOOOOH!

Megan and I do something like that.

Sweet now we have a reference and something for her to work out by.

This is awesome, thank you.

[Vex]

Very nice find, this will help alot!!

[Kaiden Shardsbane]

YES!!! Ok, just have to say, this is how I was taught to use swords (and sticks, and knives, and pretty much everything) in Kalkinodo.  Kalkinodo is basically Eskrima with some Jujitsu and Judo thrown in to cover all the bases.  So, I am very excited to see this come up.  Sometime I'll have to upload a couple videos of me demonstrating my saber techniques...

Those movies are what I learned as "Double Sinawali"  (we don't bother with fancy terms, we're just learning how to stay alive in a fight).  Their technique is kinda sloppy (and kinda slow), but that might just be style difference.  And yes, I know how to translate it to empty handed, single saber & empty hand, and empty hand & saber in off hand, knife and saber, etc.

Man, I really need to record some videos...

[Master Nero Attoru]

That's awesome Kaiden!  We'd all love to see some cool vids if you get around to making them.

Yeah the one video with the kids wasn't a great demonstration, they were probably beginners, but I was just trying to give Kham-Ryn an idea of how it looks with two people participating.  Unfortunately Artorius and I don't have a very well-lit video demonstration of the technique, all we have is this one where you can pretty much only see the blades:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmpKRSO2F54" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmpKRSO2F54</a>

Note:  We were a little sloppy here too... but we had a few drinks that night

[Master Artorius Vidnyl]

What is this "we" business with being sloppy?  I test my "drink" level by doing spin kicks and I never fall.

Anyway, next time Nero get together (the Earth will probably greatly resemble Hoth) we will put this on our list of things to do.

[Kaiden Shardsbane]

Hmmm... I know you said it might be sloppy, but if I may make a point on your technique...

you both keep your sabers in the middle space between you.  Heaven and earth done properly has your weapons recoil all the way to your original chamber position after each strike, like the first video you posted.  Really makes the difference between just clashing your sabers in the air, and actually having two strikes that just happen to intercept each other.

[Master Uilos]

All interesting thoughts.  In the movies you have what's called Jar'Kai, which refers to a style of utilizing two weapons.  They don't always have to be the same size - people use one long and one short for instance.  This could be based on many different styles - for instance you have Kham's dual Initiate style which is very reminiscent of Escrima, while Master Artorius uses more of a samurai sword style (Niten Ichi-ryū) with long blades.  You're right though, I believe the only usage of dual wielding in the films was Anakin vs Dooku.  Fun fact:  originally Dooku was supposed to dual wield while fighting Yoda!

In NY Jedi, Escrima was the first example of Jar'Kai we learned. It was taught to us by Scott Ferrara, an Eskrimador. He also taught us Espada y Daga as well as Rapier (Makashi, for Forms-fans). Since then, many have developed Niten Ici-ryu versions and Case (dual rapiers). I also employ a pair of tonfa-sabers (guard shotos) which is in and of itself a form of Jar'Kai.