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ZequarX
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2012, 06:59:57 PM »

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Cool I'm originally from Buffalo... (two hours south of Dallas) so I'd be more than happy to meet up if I make it out that way... Which I will eventually have to do.

Excellent man. I don't mind meeting you half way or something. Looks like I need to step up on my dueling though or you're gonna come down to Tejas and wipe the floor with me lol. I'd be down for just good times too though Smiley

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RG is pretty tough bud. I've been working on it for a couple days now. I have swtiched back to traditional grip because using RG tends to take away a lot of power. I definitely recommend using RG from time to time. But making it the primary way to hold/use the lightsaber is too difficult IMO. Anyone able to master RG:Shien is a better man than I Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2012, 07:25:53 PM »

A buddy and i were playing around with "triangle form" mentioned in "I, jedi" its an interesting idea, basically one hand grips the hilt in a reverse grip near the emitter, and the other hand rides the pommel to act as a lever to shift attacks and momentum. Its interesting, and provides a great defense down low, and even to the midsectiion, but up high its horrible, a lot of work to get the blade up without reversing grip.

The antazi jedi/pseudo sith that kills corran's grandfather used it. As did the leader of the jenseerai. Something else to play around with maybe when working on a shien reverse grip?
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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2012, 07:58:33 PM »

by no means do i intend to just stick with reverse grip, i would just like to start my duels with it, and switch between that and standard grip. i just want to be able to make as much use of an unorthadox method whenever i can as a tactile advantage over my adversary, and this way i think no two duels will ever be the same, therefore keeping them on their toes....

Lucien, i would love to see you using a single saber reverse grip! i have found a few videos of yours on youtube, and while i would not like to duel you (i'm good, but not THAT good) i would love to train under you.
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2012, 10:48:24 PM »

A buddy and i were playing around with "triangle form" mentioned in "I, jedi" its an interesting idea, basically one hand grips the hilt in a reverse grip near the emitter, and the other hand rides the pommel to act as a lever to shift attacks and momentum. Its interesting, and provides a great defense down low, and even to the midsectiion, but up high its horrible, a lot of work to get the blade up without reversing grip.

The antazi jedi/pseudo sith that kills corran's grandfather used it. As did the leader of the jenseerai. Something else to play around with maybe when working on a shien reverse grip?

Quit spoiling things I'm doing with books I haven't read yet lol!

by no means do i intend to just stick with reverse grip, i would just like to start my duels with it, and switch between that and standard grip. i just want to be able to make as much use of an unorthadox method whenever i can as a tactile advantage over my adversary, and this way i think no two duels will ever be the same, therefore keeping them on their toes....

Lucien, i would love to see you using a single saber reverse grip! i have found a few videos of yours on youtube, and while i would not like to duel you (i'm good, but not THAT good) i would love to train under you.
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You can totally stick with strictly reverse grip... you just have to change up your objectives a bit... I'll show you in my video.

Also thank you! I am flattered when people admire my sparring, my biggest goal is to not get a big ego from it all. I am only as good as the time I put into training... Anyone can get to that level, in some regards we all just add our own personal flair to it. Which is what makes martial arts great. Especially with lightsabers!!!! Maybe I'll get a friend of mine who is training under me now to come on and tell you guys what that is like. hehe...
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 09:11:19 AM »

@ some point i will stick up a little video of me utilizing reverse grip, maybe you guys could give me some pointers? also my next saber will be a dominix v3, as i feel the choke points will help me greatly for this form. the saber i have (blue lib) i tend to find my hand slips alot.
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2012, 11:05:00 AM »

Just reverse gripped my Aeon for a bit to confirm that those choke points work wonders.  It's normally the saber I keep in a standard grip, that might have to change.

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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 01:45:24 PM »

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@ some point i will stick up a little video of me utilizing reverse grip, maybe you guys could give me some pointers? also my next saber will be a dominix v3, as i feel the choke points will help me greatly for this form. the saber i have (blue lib) i tend to find my hand slips alot.

I feel ya man. I also have a blue Liberator and find my hand can slip in RG. Luckily my hands are starting to callice and the grooves don't tear my hands up anymore. It's funny you mention the Dominix v3, cuz I asked my wife to pick my next saber since I can't decide and she picked the Dv3 lol. She said the other ones looked like they had too much going on lol. Oh well, fully loaded the saber will be almost $275. And I plan to do some weathering to it to give it a battle worn look...any way back on topic, I think the Dv3 would work great for RG!
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2012, 03:25:00 PM »

Videos always help online... we can see what you're doing and try to give pointers on it.

My buddy is going to use sports wrap on his liberator to mitigate the slips... but the Dominix V3 is very nice.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2012, 03:33:25 PM »

i have a dominix v3 inbound i might play with a reversed grip on, instead of sports wrap though im using leather lacing to wrap the lower portion of the hilt in a knife like hilt wrapping
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2012, 11:25:57 PM »

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i have a dominix v3 inbound i might play with a reversed grip on, instead of sports wrap though im using leather lacing to wrap the lower portion of the hilt in a knife like hilt wrapping

Sweet man! I wanna see pics of that for sure! It would be awesome to have a Kota inspired hilt like from TFU cuz that would provide nice grip...and by the way, looking at his movements, Starkiller may start with a reverse grip, but I would say 90% of his moves end up being flipped over like normal. He is a powerful one handed swinger using his off hand as a nice anchor on some power downward slashes and crosses, but for the most part his moves all look normal. Now this is not to say you can't include some RG which I think was the main goal anyways, but for Starkiller specifically, he just starts in RG.

I'll tell you what, I have a photographic memory and I want to use his animations to create my own version of Sith Shien, Smiley But i'm only sparingly using RG and not starting my stance in such way. This should be interesting b/c his quick behind the back spin, slash up/block, then swing across move is SUPER nice and I look forward to smacking myself in the leg with my saber Smiley
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Light side points, please Smiley

"Dude I've been trying to get a hold of you all day."
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"Dude... it's July."
"Get the eff outta here?!?!"

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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2012, 07:26:53 PM »

sounds like that will be painful to learn lol.

i would have stuck a video up by now, but my cam's batteries are dead. that might have something to do with the fact that i keep nicking all the batteries in the house for my saber - i use it sooo much it dulls after two days.
i'm becoming smoother in changing my grip from RG to standard, and dueled my freind the other day (who usually wins) and i kept the advantage all the way because i kept switching.

lucien, wheres that video, man? lol....
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2012, 06:17:32 AM »

sounds like that will be painful to learn lol.

i would have stuck a video up by now, but my cam's batteries are dead. that might have something to do with the fact that i keep nicking all the batteries in the house for my saber - i use it sooo much it dulls after two days.
i'm becoming smoother in changing my grip from RG to standard, and dueled my freind the other day (who usually wins) and i kept the advantage all the way because i kept switching.

lucien, wheres that video, man? lol....

All but one of my sparring partners cancelled on me Sunday, so I was left with no camera men, and little motivation to actually film lol!

I'll try to get something up soon, but it just takes me a while to get people assembled. I do apologize.
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2012, 10:28:15 AM »

All but one of my sparring partners cancelled on me Sunday, so I was left with no camera men, and little motivation to actually film lol!

I'll try to get something up soon, but it just takes me a while to get people assembled. I do apologize.

dont apologise dude, its ok! you are doing something for me without gaining anything, so dont panic. i wish i could get to the usa for a few days, i would love to meet up with you and have you kick my ass, then give me a few pointers. pity that having three children syphon every little bit of money i have lol. although i'm trying to train one now...
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2012, 03:05:46 PM »

Yea, I'm excited to see what you put together bro! It'll be fun to take aspects of your reverse grip and add it into my routines!

This may sound stupid, but I am taking a Jedi approach to the "Sith Shien" application that Starkiller uses and creating a lightside application. I'm calling it "Sentinel Shien" and it utilizes a normal grip and executes quick, aggressive strikes and being completely unpredictable. This application also requires the user of SS to be strong in one-handed combat with the off hand primarily for an anchor on power strikes. There is also an emphasis on using components of Soresu in Sentinel Shien. I prolly won't post anything on this unless someone is actually interested, but I do feel a tad more special to "create" my own application of various lightsaber Forms Smiley
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Light side points, please Smiley

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"Oh, I'm sorry man, I was puttin up my Christmas tree!"
"Dude... it's July."
"Get the eff outta here?!?!"

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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2012, 03:56:24 PM »

No definitely, and most Jedi adapted the forms to apply to their specific physiology and philosophy.
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