Darth Sicarius
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« on: February 25, 2011, 03:29:02 PM » |
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At the risk of sounding stupid, i kinda just want to throw this idea out. A lot of people ive talked to, along with myself, think itd be very cool to come out with a black saber blade. Im hoping that Caine or Ultra will chime in on this one, but i was thinking, if you could have a white saber, why not black? or maybe even just a real deep purple kind of color. almost like a black light kind of style. is that possible?
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 04:14:32 PM » |
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A LOT of people have tried to make a black saber. If you can figure it out feel free to let us all know haha!
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Darth Sicarius
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 04:23:29 PM » |
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lol i had a feeling id get a reply like that.  if i knew more about the lighting system id prolly be able to elaborate more on how id do it. but all i cant think of right now is something along the lines of a black light. or take the adegan silver blade and put a black transparent film around the light source lol.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 04:57:42 PM » |
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There's a reason my name is ProjectBlacksaber...
(In JKA, I have modified the game to where there actually ARE black lightsaber blades :L )
But yes, I would LOVE to see a black lightsaber blade. Then I could actually live up to my name in real life! XD
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 06:05:10 PM » |
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I think I remember reading about this in another thread some time back. I don't know much about the mechanics of it all, but I believe the problem is that black light literally does not exist. You see color when one shade of light is absorbed and the others are reflected (or is it the other way around? I forget) and black is created when ALL colors of light are absorbed just as white reflects ALL colors. Hence the difficulty in creating a black blade.
The suggesting of using a transparent black lens is good, but I think that'd be more likely to create a gray blade than anything else. Still, I suppose that's a step in the right direction. Maybe if one played around with the diffusion in the blade... *shrug* Either way, gray could be cool in and of itself if you ask me.
Now don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see a black lightsaber blade. That'd be SICK!
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 07:21:30 PM » |
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Thats exactly right, it would be pretty crazy if we could get to the black saber blade. and just like you said, the black lense creating a grey saber is a step in the right direction. Im merely trying to spark ideas, and people who build their own sabers to strive for this legendary effect that alot of people crave. me personally, a grey or deep purple would still be pretty BA 
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 08:03:48 PM » |
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Idea: What would one get if he threw a black lense... on a purple saber? Gray + Dark Purple = ?
If I had the purple saber, I would so try that myself.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 08:14:25 PM » |
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Hell that aint bad.. now we just need to find some body who has the materials to conduct such an experiment.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 08:34:02 PM » |
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I will give my two cents on this only because not even a month ago I was in the same boat. Ok, so there are actually hundreds of pages between this forum and others on this subject. The blacklight/UV blade with a black filter..... 1st of all. That wouldnt work because anytime you use filters, Its "subtractive" as far as light goes. As opposed to Ultrasabers RGB set up, that is "additive" because its turning on more light.. Ok so weve got that down. Now the black blade has been only about 50% accomplished, and by a couple members on a different forum. What they did was 1 put a black tube of sorts inside a regular polycarb tube and the main light was white and reflected off the black tube giving you the black blade look. 2nd was a black film put into the poly c blade just like you would anyother blade film. BUT both of these blades ONLY gave the black blade look from 1 angle. Thus not fully giving it the look. As far as using a blacklight / UV LED. Good luck getting a sabersmith to use those. They wont because UV light is dangerous to look at and can burn you, just like a tanning bed if your near it too long. Anyway, just do research, If there is a way, I would hope someone finds it. But I warn you ! You have the laws of physics working against you. Good luck guys and I hope yall can do better than i did and many others. : )
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 04:40:22 AM » |
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a thought on this one - I was searching for how to do it as a black light but that doesn't seem likely (I was looking for a way to may all the stuff around glow in reaction to the saber turn on, imagine the effect of the Force on everything nearby just as you ignite your blade of chaos)
Now my point - gray/black tube or filter with white slits for the "light" to break out of the "dark" ? might work with the tube, not sure about the lens.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 05:34:56 AM » |
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You cannot produce black light, in the same fashion you cannot emit light through a lens that is black because it will not pass through. Even in the games there is no "black light" it is the core with a white glow surrounding the blade. To replicate this I would suggest a high lacquered reflective black tube/blade with LED going around it, or somehow have a two part socket the would allow the light to emit far enough to have a width wider than the blade, in other words the light would not go inside but rather the blade is in the middle of the beam.
Good luck to whoever attempts to build this or find another solution, may the force be with you.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 05:57:55 AM » |
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Like I said, it'd be DANG cool if it can be done... but a black saber really is pretty darn near impossible to create. To do it to the level of quality we've all become used to (thank you ultrasabers!), you really would have to almost totally redesign the blade and/or lighting method. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it would be very hard. If we did it with the materials available today, at the very least it would be a pretty dim blade. Then again, with a black saber that might sort of be the point. No light. No hope. Only darkness, death, and destruction. A sith with a black saber is the harbinger of DOOM! lol
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 08:02:12 PM » |
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THEY DID IT!!! OH MY GOD!!! Some one has to get a hold of this guy and find out how he did it!
(referring to the second video post)
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2011, 08:44:48 PM » |
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*watches the second video* O_O How did he do this!?! I agree with Darth Sicarius on this one, we need to find out how he accomplished this!!!
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