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  I wanted to start this thread, because now that I own an UltraEdge and a standard blade, I am torn between the two. I like the UltraEdge for the fact that the light comes out all the way to the edge of the blade, making it full & thick. However, in my opinion, the color from the LEDs is given a somewhat pastel look. On the other hand, the color in the standard blades looks great, but the standard blades don't have the nice full blade. So now I feel that when it comes time to order again, I'm going to be indecisive about which blade to get! If only there could be a blade that incorporates both these great qualities! Maybe in time..... :-\

  I didn't start this thread just for me! I thought this would be a good place to discuss the different blades, and maybe help new customers decide on which blade they want!

  Everyone feel free to express their opinions on this subject!! (and not just about the looks of the blades either) :)

See the thread of thejedimasternick for good pic comparisons: http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0 (http://www.saberforum.com/index.php?topic=666.0)

I feel the EXACT same way.  My last order I spent forever deliberating whether to get a regular heavy grade or ultraedge heavy grade, since they both have their merits.  I have both as well, and the color is indeed different between the two... I might take some pics later and post them here if you don't mind, in order to show the difference between the two blades.

That would be GREAT! I wanted to do that, but I can't mess with it at work (my company blocks sites like Flickr and Facebook).  :(

As always, it depends on three interweaving factors:
1) the color used,
2) the type of saber hilt,
3) the personal taste of the viewer.

This is a good point! Thanks for posting this!  :)

I have yet to see a standard blade in person.  It sounds like most agree that orange is one of the colors that looks better in standard, but I can't complain about my UE blades. 

I think I'm going to use some reward points to buy a standard for my Pyrestone Raven when it arrives to check it out.  I just really like the fact that you can't see imperfections, scuffs, gouges, etc. from sparring plus I like the fuller, fatter look to the blade.

I will say though, in any amount of light it starts to make my sabers a little "peachy".  I'm kind of dreading this because, if I do like standard better, I'm going to have to get some 32"s for my prophecies as well!  ;D

Personally, I think all the colors look better in a standard blade. It's nice having an RGB saber to view all the colors in person!

If I end up getting the Liberator staff I ordered I'll probably post a review, I got Fire Orange with the regular heavy grade 32" blades.  That should give you a good idea of what the non-ultraedge blades look like.

We'll have to see what happens with this restructuring tho :/

Tonight, I'm gonna try and take pictures of my Raven with the different colors using both blades. I will put these in the first post.  Hopefully, this will illustrate the differences between the blades :)

Edit: I'm having trouble getting pictures that make the blade look like it does in person. I might have to enlist my aunt with her good photography skills to accomplish this. :-\

Awesome! (to both of you)  I've seen some decent comparisons (more never hurts) but I think it's one of those things you just have to see in person to decide on.  I probably will be split even then on this! 

And yeah, I'm bummed that my raven, an LED swap on my SI, and a battery pack repair for a friend's dark liberator may take a while due to the reorganization.  It will be worth it though and I'm sure we'll all be better in the long run.

Yeah, really it is something you have to see in person. Photos can make the blades look different in so many ways. It makes me want to put a disclaimer for this in my reviews!  :-\

And I think we're definitely gonna be better off in the long run, in many ways!!  ;D ;D

Not to steal your thunder Warlock, but this is like the 5th topic about this.

Yeah I know, but I was hoping to resurrect it and maybe give a home for this topic (future sticky, maybe?)! Also, I wanted to possibly help newer customers in deciding on a blade!  ;D

It's okay, I was just pointing it out is all. Even if I did have a problem with it, there really isn't a lot I could do. lol.

Anywho, I've never really noticed the pastel look in anything but the green with UE. Maybe it's just me.

My bad, maybe I shouldn't say pastel. I just mean that the color gets washed out more from the opaque UE blade (it still looks good though!). To me, the colors aren't as "sharp" as in the standard blades. I guess everything is open to interpretation or opinion....I try to look at things as objectively as possible.  :-\

Standard edge / Heavy Duty is the way to go in my opinion. I also prefer the shorter blades. We own three blades and my favorite is the 24" Standard Edge / Heavy Duty.

I personally agree with your estimations completely, and for the reasons you specified, I have to completely side with the Normal Edge Blades.  They concentrate the color SO MUCH BETTER (in my opinion) than the Ultra Edge.  I know this may be considered Heresy to some (Because of How Well Loved and Received the Ultra Edge Blades Have Been), but I can't help but be honest with myself and pic which blade I personally prefer.  I know that some people have said that they are very concerned with the blade giving the appearance of a "white core" and that it's one of the reasons why they Love the Ultra Edge, I personally could care less about the "white core", I just want whatever color I pick to shine through as Brightly As Possible  ;D

Thank you, Brother Wraith! I'm starting to think that if I HAD to pick a favorite it WOULD be a standard blade, because while the "full" blade look is nice, to me the color is slightly more important.  :-\

You guys are jerks.  Now I have to order a standard with my Raven, and if I like it 2 more for my prophecies.  Damn you!!!  ;D

Apologies, Brother!  ;)

It's just that.....the more I look at my standard blade lit up, the more I like how good the colors look with it! And also (being Sith inclined), to me the Red seems more sinister looking in the standard blade! Like I've said before, I like the UE blades too (maybe just as much, but for different reasons)!  :)

Yup, all good stuff here...

I mean, ultimately you can chalk up the "differences" between the blade types as what *YOU* personally like or prefer.  And in some cases, people will simply want BOTH.  All depends on what "hits you" just right.

Sort of like preferring vanilla ice cream (or whatever) over chocolate (or whatever)... but... the whole POINT is not *what* you choose... it is that you CAN choose, right?  :)

You're absolutely right Master Novastar! That's one of the main reasons I started this thread, is to help people CHOOSE! ;D  I'm hoping to get some pictures of both blades that look like what they do in person, to give people a good visual. :)

And if you couldn't tell, I'm one that wants both!  ;) But I understand....all in good time!

My two light sabers (SW Shop) has the FX blade, one removable, one not.  The discussions so far have been about color more than durability.  I guess I am asking all you experts out there about durability.  What is the difference between the blade strengths.  Is the Ultra more durable than the standard blade (and how much more durable than the FX blade)?  And would the standard blade hold up just as well to sparring, or would you need the heavy guage (Heavy or Ultra Heavy) blades?  And finally, what is the consensus for the best sparring blade????

I'm pretty sure the durability is the same between UltraEdge and standard blades. The durability differs between Midgrade and Heavygrade blades. If you're going to be doing heavy dueling you want a Heavygrade blade. Hope that helps!  ;D

Man, how often do we answer this question? An official sticky would probably be nice, but, then we'd have to hope people actually clicked it.

The "edge" has nothing to do with durability. It's either mid grade or heavy duty. Heavy duty blades are twice the thickness of the others. They are, for most intents and purposes, unbreakable. They are twice as thick, twice as heavy.

You make two choices when you order a blade. The "grade" which is how thick the poly is, and the edge which is how it looks. A heavy duty blade, IN an ultra edge has been reported to display more subdued color / brightness, because it is semi-opaque and, as I said, twice as thick. Semi-opaque + thicker = less light gets out.

All four permutations are subject to your own subjective opinion. No one can choose them for you. Most people seem to choose the ultra edge, I think, in large part because of the adjective. It makes it sound as if it's "better". It is not. It is "different".

Choose grade based on intended use, and edge based on the best guess you've got on which you'll think looks cooler.

Very well explained, navajas!!  ;D

I personally like my UEHG's. One thing that annoys me is when people say "The red isn't as red in Ultra Edge." I quite frankly don't know what the frack they're talking about. I have a red saber which I use a UEHG on it, and I'll tell you it's quite red. In fact I put a spare standard edge on it, and I see no difference whatsoever. *shrugs* Maybe it's just me.

I didn't say "the red isn't as red", I just said it looks different (not less or more red, and not a different color) As I'll say once again, I like the UltraEdge just as much as the standard (but for different reasons); that's part of the reason why I started this thread! Not trying to be mean or anything, just defending my point.  :)

it still looks red but is it the kind of red that person wants?  i put a UE blade and mid grad blade on two red sabers.  i had and showed my brother and sister said which one looks more red they both replied they both look exactly the same but to me the mid grade look a tad richer in color and the UE a little washed out but red none the less; personally i only use UE blades cause i like the fuller blade look and thats what i like about this community of saber enthusiasts we has so many preferences that the smallest detail  like the shade of are red blade can bother someone it makes us individuals  :)

Agreed  ;D , It is All About Personal Preference, and like Mom always said, "it would be a boring world if we all liked vanilla  ;) "

In regards to Lord Darkhorse, ahh come on Bro  ;) you know we just pushed you in the correct direction  ;D lol , like Dad always said, "you got the right to be wrong"  :D lol, just messing with your Brother  ;)

Thank you all for the info.  I asked cause I couldn't find anything written that explained it so well.

No problem! Glad we could all help!  ;D