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Like the title says, this is the place for us to discuss all things Who. I am sure that there are many different ideas on series, stories, and of course the Doctor himself. That said I thought that there were enough of us out there to warrant a topic dedicated to Dr. Who.

For me, I started watching Who only this last year. I started with 9, 10, and 11, and have recently started watching the original Doctors. I've seen 1, 2, and 3 so far.

Maybe it is merely because they were he Doctor and companion that I started with, but I loved Nine and Rose. I loved Ten just as well as Nine, but did not overly like Eleven. He just didn't strike the right chord with me, though I am particularly fond of Amy ;)

For the originals, I really enjoyed One, and even Two. I'm not a fan of Three though. Again, he just doesn't strike that chord, that mysterious thing in my mind that accepts him as the Doctor.

For creatures, I love the Daleks, the Ood, the Weeping Angels, and the Nestene. Honourable mention to the Silence for being just plain interesting.

I don't necessarily have a favourite story arc, though watching Nine's season (series) always gets me. Seriously, I love the whole Bad Wolf revelation.

Anyway, that's my blurb for now. I hope there are others interested in discussing Who.

I like 11 the best and have a mad crush on Amy Pond.  I haven't seen all the seasons, only catching episodes here and there on Netflix and this last season on BBC.  I particularly like the episode on the Cold-War era Soviet Submarine.  (I like the actor who played the captain, who is also from the Game of Thrones series)

My favorite alien character is Strax and the Daleks are my favorite villains.

Oh Ben, you are about to meet the Fourth Doctor soon then, he is amazing, his name is Tom Baker and he is the legendary Doctor that wore the scarf!  I love most of the Doctors, the only ones I'm not fond of are the First and Sixth, the others are all really good.  The Dalaks are my favorite villain and a few favorite episodes are "Genesis of the Dalaks", "Day of the Dalaks (Special Edition)", "Blink", "The End of Time (parts 1 and 2)",  "The Ark in Space", "The War Games", "Inferno", and "The Eleventh Hour".

Very cool to read guys. Yes, I'm nearly to Baker. I'm interested to see what I think of him.

On another note, I just saw the test script for the 12th Doctor's audition.

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Seems to me that the new Doctor could either be considerably taller, or shorter. I saw make him taller and make him me! I think a 6'6 Doctor would be interesting ;)

Well, I've made it to Four, and he reminds me a lot of Nine, which is a very good thing! You're right, I like Four!

Yes, Four is a legend.  He played the Doctor for a record setting SEVEN seasons!  Nine and Four also have the same BIG smile :P

That IS impressive! Their noses are similar also, as are some of their mannerisms.

I found my love through PBS and watching #4... Tom Baker just set the standard for me and I agree, I saw a lot of Baker in Christopher Eccleston's portrayal as #9.  He just had that proper on the edge of insane quality.

#5 was always just fun to watch, he was quite amusing and over the top, especially loved the celery as a boutonniere in his jacket.  #6, #7 sort of run together for me and without seeing pictures of them I forget the order of which one is which, but it was British TV in the 80's so they all sorta feel the same.

#8 was a 1996 made for TV movie and I loved it, honestly it was new Doctor Who and I was 21 and finally really started to understand the show.

Then we hit the current series starting with #9... what is there to be said, it's fun, it's funny, it's smart, it's snappy and it's still everything it was from the beginning.  I really wish Eccleston had done more than a single season, but that was actually his contract from the beginning and he did get a whole new generation loving the series.

#10, David Tennant, I do admit, this is my man crush  (it used to be Sean Connery, but damn he got OLD.)  The only issue I end up having with #10's run is Martha Jones, was never a big fan of hers, she just felt too know it all as a companion.  I adored Donna Noble.

#11, Matt Smith, my daughter loves him and has a crush on him, he definitely took some getting used to as the doctor (about 2-3 episodes for me.)

I couldn't nail down a specific story arc, any of the ones with John Simms as the Master, especially the final ones leading to Tennant's death... and the War of the Medusa Cascade arc, with all the companions coming together to stop the rise of the Dalek Crucible.

I could keep going, but I think I've fanboy'd enough

"Human Nature"...David Tennant (Tenth Doctor)...Freema Agyeman (Martha Jones)...I will not give any of it away, it is a good one.


"City of Death"...Tom Baker (Fourth Doctor)...Lalla Ward (Romana)...one of the best 4th Dr episodes.


"The Eleventh Hour"...Matt Smith (Eleventh Doctor)...Karen Gillan (Amy Pond)...an alien prisoner hunt, good times.


"The Seeds Of Doom"...Tom Baker (Fourth Doctor)...Elisabeth Sladen (Sarah Jane Smith)...tons of action and science horror!


"The Girl in the Fireplace"...David Tennant (Tenth Doctor)...award winning, great story.


"The Talons of Weng-Chiang"...Tom Baker (Fourth Doctor)...Louise Jameson (Leela)....an interesting blend of genres.


"The Empty Child"...Christopher Eccleston (Ninth Doctor)...Billie Piper (Rose Tyler) & John Barrowman (Jack Harkness)...really creepy episode.


"Genesis of the Daleks"...Tom Baker (Fourth Doctor)...Elisabeth Sladen (Sarah Jane Smith) & Ian Marter (Harry Sullivan)...the alpha and omega of entry into the Daleks.



But to be honest...I could recommend most of the episodes...the newer ones more so because of the production values.

One of my few Dr Who peeves...Donna Noble.

Whew...I never warmed up to the attitude, mannish looks, and the aggression...but she was in several good episodes,  David Tennant is one of my favorite Dr's of all of them so it makes it hard because I disliked her so much...it kept me at odds.

I appreciated her more at the end I guess, she had moments.  It is almost like she belonged in another time, which is ironic...she was and is just not my cuppa.

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But the good news is that there are lots of options!

It is curious how much we can like the same things but not all the same things.

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Getting ready to watch the reveal of the 12th Doctor!

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So, the new Doctor looks really interesting! I'm looking forward to seeing him in the role.

Seconded, though my wife thinks, with the amount of young viewers Tennant and Smith added, that going older may be a mistake.  Time will tell, and look forward to it no matter what.

This is also my biggest worry as well.

Neat thing, he's already been in Torchwood and Doctor Who... as Caecilius in "Fires of Pompeii" and John Frobisher in "Children of the Earth: 1-5"

Though IMDB currently lists him as playing Cardinal Richelieu in a TV series called "The Musketeers" for 2014 that's in Pre-Production... not sure whats going to happen to that project.

I do love the fact he's another Scot as well, maybe instead of putting on the England accent he can stick with the natural Scottish baroque?

Yes! Other Whovians!!!

Well, my all time FAVORITE episode (well, two parter) is Human Nature/The Family of Blood.
They. Were. Incredible. And heartbreaking... EXTREMELY well written... So sad...  :'( absolutely LOVED that they had Joan Redferns great-granddaughter in The End of Time (Part II) When Tennant was saying his goodbyes... Unfortunately, I haven't seem much from '63-'87. Or the '96 Movie, but my favorite Classic series episode is
The Caves of Androzani.

63-89 :P

The Caves of Androzani, the Fifth Doctor's swansong.  I liked that one as well, have it on DVD!  Like the way they did the regeneration sequence in it.

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I make it a habit to get a Doctor's first and last episodes.  I have all of the new series except for the second half of series 7.  I have every regeneration episode except for the Tenth Planet (First Doctor/Second Doctor) it's suppose to come out soon if it hasn't already.  It was missing the final episode (part 4) but it has been animated with the original TV soundtrack played over it.  I have "The War Games"/"Spearhead From Space" (Second/Third), "Planet of the Spiders" (Third/Fourth), "Logopolis" (Fourth/Fifth), "The Caves of Androzani" (Fifth/Sixth), "Time and the Rani" (Sixth/Seventh), and the TV Movie (Seventh/Eighth).

This could be my favorite YouTube video ever!  I love this guy's Doctor Who videos!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfPuZe4gcXY

I'll just leave this here...

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New viewer here with basically only 2 Doctors under his belt, so keep that in mind.

A lot of folks bash Nine, but I say he had his own flavor which was unique and wonderful in its own right.  He had the misfortune to cover the very first season of a newly restarted show, which is gonna have its bumps and learning experiences along the way.  The writing is much better into Ten, and Tennant's performance is... in his own words, BRILLIANT!  I've only seen two episodes with Matt Smith, and I loved them both but I'm waiting to see more to make a judgment call.

One of my favorite episodes (maybe my absolute favorite so far) is Blink.  Terrifying, clever, and a fresh change of pace with how little the Doctor actually appears.  It brings the show back to the everyman, and introduces an epic new enemy - the Weeping Angels!  I can't wait to see what else Moffet has up his sleeve...

Christopher Eccleston was great as the 9th doctor IMO.  He brought a lot to the table.

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Glad you are enjoying the show!  I'm a fan of all the Doctors from the new series and most of them from the classic series as well.  Matt Smith has some great episodes you can look forward to (including more Weeping Angels!)  Bink was a great episode and Moffet also wrote the episodes in the big library that introduced River Song!  I love Who, old Who and new Who!

Indeed he did! Going back and watching classic Who after new Who, it's pretty obvious that 9 took a lot from 4. It's uncanny to watch them back to back.

I can honestly say that there have only been two incarnations of the Doctor that I really didn't like....

Colin Baker and Matt Smith

You don't like Smith? Why? What's wrong with him?

After 9 and 10, he just seemed...too out there for me. He always strikes me as more foppish than the Doctor usually seems. I love some of his episodes, story-wise and Amy-wise, but I don't like Matt Smith. Nearly every episode I watch with him, I say at least once, "I can't wait for 12 so that we can get rid of 11."

Well, the Doctor has always been more of a show-off, it's just a lot more... Noticeable in Matt's Doctor. Don't you remember when he regenerates the Doctor has a nearly complete personality overhaul?

Oh yes, I do remember that. I'm just not taken with 11. He just doesn't strike me as...right. He seems very unlike the Doctor a lot of the time.

I see past companions and acquaintances recognize the Doctor because he's always somewhat similar and familiar.... I can't picture that happening too well with 11 because he is SO drastically different.

Like I said, I still enjoy some of his episodes, but I'll be glad when he's gone and we can get back to "real Doctor".

He reminds me so much of Colin Baker, and I couldn't stand Baker either.

UGH, I hated Collin Baker, his doctor was so damn arrogant, and that outfit of his was god awful.  I like Matt though, I feel he combines the "old man" in the "kid's" body really well.  Plus he's so...elastic :P.   I didn't like William Hartnell either, i found him boring.

Just moving into Series 5 with the fiancee now, and loving having Stephen Moffet at the helm full time.  Of course, Matt Smith and Karen Gillan definitely make this season worthwhile (with Karen being quite easy on the eyes).

Still miss David Tennant though... his final episode was actually amazing IMO.  Best acting he did in his whole stint as the Doctor.

David will be beak in the DW 50 anniversary special in November, with Billie Piper!  David Tennant is also on the new smash hit BBC show Broad church where he plays a police detective.  They are doping an American version of it too, it will have a different name but the working title is Broadchurch for now.  They have just announced that David Tennent's police character in in the BBC version will also be played by David Tennent in the American version!!!

Yeah I like Matt a lot too, going to miss him after Christmas :(

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It's been announced that 9 missing episodes of Doctor Who have been discovered. All the episodes are from the Second Doctor’s era and come from two stories – The Enemy of the World and The Web of Fear.

The Enemy of the World first aired on BBC One in December, 1967. Episodes 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 had been missing from the BBC archives but have now been found which means that a complete version of this classic six-parter now exists.

Episodes 2 – 6 of The Web of Fear were feared lost forever but now episodes 2, 4, 5, and 6 have been recovered. This means that now, aside from episode 3, this adventure also exists in its entirety.

Both stories star Patrick Troughton as the Doctor plus Frazer Hines as Jamie and Deborah Watling as Victoria. The Web of Fear introduces the much-loved character Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart (later known as the Brigadier) whilst The Enemy of the World is unique insofar as Patrick Troughton also stars as the story’s main villain – the evil Salamander.

Many old school fans know there are many episodes missing from the BBC archive of the First and Second Doctor era.  Getting a whooping nine episodes recovered is a large boon for us Who fans, especially considering Enemy of the World is now complete and Web of Fear is only missing one episode.

I MIGHT have just ordered this t-shirt...

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WOOHOO!!! It's the 50th Anniversary everyone! WOO!

Anyone watch An Adventure in Time and Space?

It's a very sweet tribute to the late William Hartnell.

I have now watched Day of the Doctor 3 times...  *SQUUUUEEEEEEEEE* *Fangasm*

I actually got to see the worldwide simulcast, so got to see it with no commercials and the tv's just been left on BBC America all day.

I'm going to see it in theaters on Monday night.  I haven't watched it yet.

I loved it, so much fanservice for the old school fans...

Watched that too on Friday night, that was beautiful as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5Py96KJ54

So without dropping any spoilers, that was probably the most satisfying fan experience I've had since the second Death Star exploded over Endor...

Yeah, I was very happy with the 50th!

Saw the Day of the Doctor tonight on the big screen in 3D.  It was great. Too bad it wasn't in 12D...

Doctor Who plays in all dimensions, for all of time.  :)

I can honestly say, I loved the Day of the Doctor. It was well worth the wait.

It was sort of an inside joke.  Before the show started, the 11th doctor showed up on screen and welcomed everyone to the 100th anniversary special playing in 12D.  He was then informed by Clara that it was only the 50th and it was in 3D.  The Doctor replied "Aw, 3D? What's good about that?"

My parents bought me the first series of New Who for my birthday, and I can't wait to watch it! I'm saving it for winter break.

Welcome to your new addiction...

Hehe...

I watched a documentary on the 9th Doctor, as well as two random episodes (one of which came with the documentary), and I ended up getting hooked. Thanks again, Ben ;)

I've been watching Who since I was either three or four, I honestly don't remember who my first Doctor was.  It was either the great John Pertwee or the amazing Tom Baker! :)

I remember watching Dr Who when I was quite young because of the intro music and epileptic color shows...:)...but which was the first, I do not remember...always playing on PBS out of sequence...but they were black and white  :)

In 1972 I was 6-7 so I imagine it was a year or two or three after that, I am with Prowl, John Pertwee and Tom Baker both get the first place due shuffling and me being a wired little kid.

Younger people who only watch the new series don't know the awesome Doctors they are missing.  There were some amazing episode in the classic series, a few even written by Douglas Adams, "City of Death" is really good one!

I'm looking forward to picking up the newly recovered episodes "Enemy of the World" and "Web of Fear" with the Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton).

I've seen a few of the old series, such as the Caves of Androzani, the Aztecs, the Mind Robber...

Caves of Androzan is possibly my favorite story of the Fifth Doctor.

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So, did anyone catch the Time of the Doctor last night?
I'm not gonna lie, I cried like a newborn for the next four hours, matts farewell was done very we'll...  :'(
He was my Doctor, the first episode I ever saw wasThe Doctor, the Widow, and the Wardrobe I will miss him very much...  :'(
On the other hand, no season 8 until NEXT FALL >:(

Did anyone pick up that the Doctor was on Trenzalore before he was told the name of the planet? And I don't mean because we knew going into the ep that Matt was bowing out (hence Trenzalore), but because of the truth field and Dorium's quote at the end of the Wedding of River Song which included; 'On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give answer, a question will be asked...'

Unfortunately, I've not seen it quite yet. Tomorrow though, likely.

I was disappointed with last night's episode.  It is great in some places and a disappointment in others.

I agree with you, but I personally thought Matt's performance was perfect. He was the Doctor more than he ever was... His farewell speech was heartbreaking, and I thought it was much better then David's "I don't wanna go!"

I loved Matt's performance, it was the script I had issues with.  I still prefer David's ending better, I liked the "I don't want to go line", it summed up just how much he loved being the Tenth Doctor. I didn't want him to go either. 

Still haven't seen the Christmas special, but I'm with you on not wanting 10 to leave! Seriously, I don't cry at TV but I cried when he said that he didn't want to go.

I'm not saying the Tenth's "I don't wanna go!" Was bad, in fact, I cried when that happened to.
But for some reason... Matt's though...
"It all just disappears doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment. Like breath, on a mirror. Any moment now, he's-a coming."
"Who's coming?"
"The Doctor."
"You, you are the Doctor."
"Yep... And I always will be! Times change. And so must I! Amelia!"
"Who's Amelia?"
"The first face this face saw... We all change, when you think about it, we're all different people, all through our lives. And that's ok that's good you gotta keep moving, so long as you remember all the people that you used to be! I will not forget one line of this, I swear. I will always remember when the Doctor was me..."

You're spoiling it for poor Ben

Oh... I wasn't even thinking about!
Forgive me Ben!
Just ignore it!
And if you've already read it... Then forget about it!
I'm so, so, SO! sorry!

I am new the the world of Doctor Who and time lords.  My first experience to it was at comic con in September. I didnt get it.  I met a guy at con and we talked about the series.  I couldnt get into the old series and he said start with the 9th doctor.  So upon his advice I did.  Watched season1 with the 9th doctor and when he regenerated and became the 10th doctor david tennant I was HOOKED.  Have not been able to stop watching since.  Whenever I have spare time which is not often and at night after my wife goes to bed I try to watch and episode or two before i go to bed.  Very seldom do i get hooked on a series this quickly and just want to watch every episode from start to finish.  The last two shows that hooked me like this were 24 and the Big Bang Theory.  Proud to stay that I LIKE Doctor Who.

Welcome to your new addiction...
Soon, when you've caught up, you'll want to watch more. And then, AND THEN! Do the smart thing! have a Classic Who marathon.

Ahhhh more Whovians!! I'm a huge Who geek. Thought Christopher Eccleston was fantastic! He was angry...I liked it. And I have to admit though that DT was def the best out of the newer ones for me. Something about his compassion and light-heartedness all at the same time. Very excited to see how Peter Capaldi does.

Been catching up some Doctor Who classic lately... I had completely forgotten that the 1st series were only 30 minute episodes.  I guess as I was seeing them in reruns growing up they were running two of them back to back to fill an hour time slot.  It seems the hour long format didn't come about until the 3rd Doctor and the switch to color in 1970 or so.

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I'm new to the show but 1000% a fan of Matt Smith - the 11th doctor - and Amy Pond

I've seen all of 9th doctor several of the 10th and two seasons of the 11th.  It's a great show just got into it in the last two months

I saw a pic of the new Doctor's threads today... he's kinda pimpin' it.

See? Pimpin'...

I like it.

Count Who ? His body structure lends to more of a vampiric vibe and the under red lining ...

I think he will be good.

It looks like it might have been stolen from Christopher Lee's closet, which makes it cool.

Count DookWHO?

Well, it's a month late, but I finally got caught up to and saw the Christmas Special. I've seen plenty of ragging on it, but I enjoyed it. Didn't love Handles as much as (nearly) everyone did, but it was still a good episode!

And to update my earlier sentiments, Matt Smith did grow on me. It took a while, but he did well. I'm really looking forward to Capaldi though, and seeing what he brings to the table!

Honestly, I never saw the big deal with Handles. Ehh, to each his own though. At first I didn't like how the regeneration went down. So fast, kinda like he sneezed or something. But, the more I thought about it the more it made sense. I agree though still a great episode and nice way for MS to go out. Very excited for Capaldi as well!

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Maybe they should call them 'Snarling Angels'? Cos, you know, I never see them doing any weeping.

They cry when you look at them.

Not only are they shy, but also very self conscious and they feel as if they are being constantly judged.  ;)

I like the Weeping Angels, a wonderful addition to the Who universe.

I hate having to wait until September or so until the new season starts. :(

You and me both...

DOUBLE POST!!!

So, I've begun watching the Trial of a Time Lord... Had no idea it was a six hour long serial.

It's my first Sixth Doctor adventure, and I must say, why does everyone hate him? He seems like a good enough Doctor, so why all the hate?

Also, why has The Valeyard not appeared since then? He's probably the most brilliantly thought up Doctor Who villain ever!

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