Disney Changes Canon for the Lightsaber

[ithekro]

Technically you could say it shifted his blade color from blue (Guardian Blue) for his first saber to Cyan (Arctic Blue) for his Clone Wars saber.  He was very much the warrior in that war.  But, like Ahsoka describes him, he was still very kind to his friends at that point.  That Obi-wan's blade never shifted to green is interesting, since he had to make a new lightsaber for the Clone Wars as well, but was dubbed "The Negotiator".  But then we don't know exactly what causes the blades to come out blue or green for the Jedi.  Qui-Gon and Yoda have green blades like Luke.  The question is, why?   Even when we saw the younglings get their lightsabers finished using crystals they picked up from their trails, some were blue and some were green when ignited.

[ThreadJack]

Considering that saber went tumbling down the same reactor tunnel that Palatine went down, I doubt it.

Considering the Graflex went tumbling down a weather tunnel only to end up in the atmosphere of a gas giant, but shows up in TFA, I don't see how that's such an issue....

Let's not forget a few things, though. There is a connection between the Force user and his/her crystal, and at that time the caves were still under jedi control and open. He could have easily gone to a cave to her a new crystal to fabricate his ROTS saber. That would have made that saber more his and strengthened the bond between the two, as opposed to reusing a crystal from another saber.

Didn't Illum change hands almost constantly during the war? It's possible he just took the crystal because he didn't have time to go get another one. He did have a job to do.

[Duff Man]

Exactly. Until he turned, he was still a Jedi. Like everyone, he was flawed, but he was still a Jedi. Killing the Tusken Raiders was part of the path, but it wasn't the turn. He didn't commit and devote himself to the DS with that singular act.

Remember Slaughtering innocent children alone won't do, you have to swear allegiance to the teaching of the dark side then kill them.    Like everything else it is not official until the contract is confirmed and signed. I am still sticking to my extra saber theories or extra pretune crystals

Oh but wait then there is that 3day rule before the contract is REALLY official after you signed it?.........so he still could have  gone back. lol


But this brings up another point.   Asohka's new blades are white, so did they original keep this color when became in tuned with her, was this because she was no longer part of the order and why would that matter? Was the force like" yeah she is still good and all but not apart of an official sect, NOPE NO MORE GREEN FOR HER!" Or is the white/silver blade the new complete(light side) balance to replace yellow.(Sentinel Sliver now??)  Does this also mean you can be a completely balance in the dark side too? We already have a Total balance of light and Dark being the purple blade...............i am not even getting into the black blade.  

[hazard502]

The Graflex will play a major role in Ep VIII . . . but in who's hands?

Will Luke still have his lightsaber from RotJ?  What did he use while trying to start up the Jedi order?

Clearly Rey won't be ready to make her own any time soon - will Luke "give" the Graflex to her . . . either right away or after some training?

Will he keep it for himself and eventually lead Rey into building one for herself by the end of Ep VIII?

Will we see any other familiar lightsabers next film?  Or possibly a whole other new one?

[Racona Nova]

Where is this stated in Disney Canon

Nowhere, that's why I call it "current canon", i.e. the version that has been untouched by Disney so far. I'm quite sure this will eventually be changed like many parts of the "old" canon (now called "Legends") have been.

[Master Seblaise]

In my opinion, for the Jedi, it depends if the knight is more driven by its Wisdom (green - Yoda ...) or its Valour (blue - most of the warriors ...). I liked the idea that the color of the blade was linked to the true nature of the Jedi ... and this one is not supposed to change (in my opinion) ... it is not a mood

[Landen Se-Sentien]

Considering the Graflex went tumbling down a weather tunnel only to end up in the atmosphere of a gas giant, but shows up in TFA, I don't see how that's such an issue....

Didn't Illum change hands almost constantly during the war? It's possible he just took the crystal because he didn't have time to go get another one. He did have a job to do.

We don't know where the Graflex landed. We do know that the facility didn't blow up like the Death Star. It could've ended up in a vent, ledge, or who knows where. It's possible Vader's saber survived the explosion. Like I said, I doubt it, but it's not entirely impossible.

In Legends it was attempted to be taken by Dooku, but I'm not sure if that's canon anymore. You're right, he did have a job to do, and that job required a lightsaber. If he didn't have any extra crystals available, going back to Ilum would've been a priority. That weapon is his life, after all.

All of these scenarios are plausible, I'm not denying that. Vader's saber could have survived the explosion. Anakin may have had access to extra crystals or reused one. I'm just throwing out alternatives, because I like playing devil's advocate from time to time.

[Obese Wan Kenobese]

The Sith actually embrace the dark side as something to be utilized in force connection. The Jedi are wary of the dark side as something that one must guard oneself from falling into.

In the analogy it represents, if you are trying to be good, responsible and value others, you lean lightside. If you believe there is no such thing as bad to be forbidden or considered wrong, and you place yourself above all others, you lean dark side.

The Jedi and Sith have more specific beliefs about such things. Jedi have a method honed over generations to resist the dark side. Sith have a method honed over generations to use the dark side. I see a demarcation in choosing and utilizing the dark side in depth that could be the line of who gets red crystals. I see it as the force influencing the energy emitted. A frequency within the visible spectrum with red on one end and other colors on the other end. A particularly protective man/woman of action has an influence that pulls toward blue. A particularly reflective thinker pulls toward green. Anyone who has embraced the dark side will have an influence that overpowers other qualities in such a way as to make red. Bane and perhaps others will prove otherwise, but it is rare that one's motivations be so strong as not be overtaken by the dark side and also over take a crystal's resulting color.

We could even say Bane's amethyst is red and blue mixed, while Mace Windu's amethyst is violet next to blue on the true spectrum. Who want's to put these guys lightsabers in the spectrometer? Just me? Ok.

[Duff Man]

SOOOOO this is NOT a new change/idea that Disney came up with.    Apparently they showed this in the 1983 ROTJ Marvel comic.(scroll down to the behind the scenes)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Synthetic_lightsaber_crystal?file=LukeRedSaber.jpg

I had to get my copy and see for myself!!




IT IS TRUE!!!!! and not only did it change color.........but i guess the blade also comes out the pommel when held by a darksider??

so this just makes it re-cannon... ish??

[scifidude79]

Luke's lightsaber was red in the early comics, starting with Marvel's adaptation of the first film.  I don't know when they finally gave him blue or green.  They also at times made his second lightsaber (the one from ROTJ) blue, though that may have been in Dark Horse Comics, who took over at some point.  Incidentally, the first yellow blade was wielded by another "Jedi" in the early comics.

Fun fact: the real reason for Luke's second lightsaber having a green blade is because of Earth's blue atmosphere.  The effects team was all set to give him a blue blade in ROTJ, but it didn't show up well against the blue sky of "Tatooine," so they decided to make it green.  So, the limitations of ILM in the early 80s are directly responsible for the creation of green lightsaber blades. 

[Duff Man]

Luke's lightsaber was red in the early comics, starting with Marvel's adaptation of the first film.  I don't know when they finally gave him blue or green.  They also at times made his second lightsaber (the one from ROTJ) blue, though that may have been in Dark Horse Comics, who took over at some point.  Incidentally, the first yellow blade was wielded by another "Jedi" in the early comics.

Fun fact: the real reason for Luke's second lightsaber having a green blade is because of Earth's blue atmosphere.  The effects team was all set to give him a blue blade in ROTJ, but it didn't show up well against the blue sky of "Tatooine," so they decided to make it green.  So, the limitations of ILM in the early 80s are directly responsible for the creation of green lightsaber blades.  

yep although the first time you see the blade color of the same saber change by switching users showing their connection to the force was in 83 ROTJ comic. Luks blade was green then whole time until vader took it.  

The first Yellow blade was wielded by Deak starkiller (who later became luke)  in McQuarrie original artist rendering(well they were both white then change deak had yellow and vader had blue) then By luke in the 1977 Early bird kit from Kenner  well technically Obi won too, It was shown on his single release  packaging .