All Things Star Trek

[kewlkev360]

Even bad Trek is better than no Trek...well...ok...STV was much like a STD...even if you get it taken care of, you will never forget...

Epic find there dude!

[JEStucker]

[Manroon]

STV had a lot wrong with it.... no argument here. Still, there are some things I liked. The new A Bridge. The Yosemite bit. 'What does God want, with a starship?' And a bored Klingon blowing up American Space Trash. XD

Back to the Borg for a second, was anyone else freaked out by that scene in The Return that described their air and water recycling systems on the cube? Apparently they reuse all those limbs they chop off of people.... eeeeeeewwwwww.

[kewlkev360]

STV had a lot wrong with it.... no argument here. Still, there are some things I liked. The new A Bridge. The Yosemite bit. 'What does God want, with a starship?' And a bored Klingon blowing up American Space Trash. XD

Back to the Borg for a second, was anyone else freaked out by that scene in The Return that described their air and water recycling systems on the cube? Apparently they reuse all those limbs they chop off of people.... eeeeeeewwwwww.

I was always freaked out by the Borg, I still remember seeing Picard assimilated for the first time.  My mind was so far beyond blown and I thought "if they can get him, they can get anybody."

[Jev Moldara]

Another reason why the Borg are terrifying... They hold no animosity towards anyone. Indeed, if you pass through their territory and they do not perceive you as a threat or worthy of their attention, then they leave you alone. If they decide that you are to be assimilated, there is absolutely no malice behind it. They look at other species with the same clinical eye as a scientist studying a petri dish.

They are similar to the Reavers from Firefly/Serenity in that they don't chase you or fight you unless they have to, but their mere presence is enough to terrify even the hardiest and toughest warrior, and NOBODY goes near their territory unless it's absolutely necessary.

[Prowl 1701]

First Contact is still one of my favorite Trek films.  The special effects were great, the music had a creepy atmosphere, and the Borg makeup was fantastic.  The post-first contact Borg makeup is FAR better than the pre-first contact Borg design.

[Manroon]

I concur. Matter of fact, (long story short here) I know a guy who's played Borg on TNG and Voyager, and even the actors vastly prefer the Post Contact versions of the costumes. He said not only were they more detailed and with better make up, but they went on faster too. I think he mentioned something about not having to have as many pieces of hardware glued to him after Contact. lol

[JEStucker]

First Contact is still one of my favorite Trek films.  The special effects were great, the music had a creepy atmosphere, and the Borg makeup was fantastic.  The post-first contact Borg makeup is FAR better than the pre-first contact Borg design.

And they had a legitimate reason for Worf being back on the Enterprise.  They rescued him from the Defiant.  Some of the others seemed to be stretching the logic about him being there, of course the galaxy in  Trek is a giant mass of odd coincidences anyways, so maybe it's just the way it worked.

[Madeye]

Even bad Trek is better than no Trek...well...ok...STV was much like a STD...even if you get it taken care of, you will never forget...

I bought the complete Star Trek TOS Movie set on Blu-Ray recently and watched all of the films start to finish with the commentary. If you watch Star Trek 5, it has William Shatner and his daughter (Who was on the project). In the commentary he gives a lot of details about why the film turned out like it did, the fact that they literally had no time, and very little money to make the film is a strong argument to how a lot of the plot got lost. There were supposed to be a lot more special effects, creatures, etc that they basically didn't get to do because they ran out of money. Even back then, the film was not very well funded, and with a heavy amount of $$$ going to the cast lineup, which also included David Warner (If you all know your Trek, you know he was also a big name in Star Trek VI), it's easy to see how things got cut short.

One of Paramount's #1 problems, was not having a good feel for the future. Every time they made a new movie, they had to build new sets, new costumes, etc. If they would have had a little bit more forethought on the matter, they could have been smart and saved millions on all of those things.

I like the fact that in true Trek fashion, V discussed the unknown, or....if you prefer, the uncertain. There's a good story in that movie, it just winds up getting lost in poor planning, execution, and funding. The film was shot in less than 2 months, which is insane if you think about what all goes into a film.

Okay, that's my two cents

[Prowl 1701]

Trek V has it's moments, like the jailbreak scene and the camping scenes at the end and beginning.  I've always described it as "a great 15 minute movie that got crammed into two hours."  Interesting note* The actor who played the "Face of God" in Trek V is the same guy that played the Admiral in the TNG episodes "The Best of Both World's part 1 and 2".

[Madeye]

Trek V has it's moments, like the jailbreak scene and the camping scenes at the end and beginning.  I've always described it as "a great 15 minute movie that got crammed into two hours."  Interesting note* The actor who played the "Face of God" in Trek V is the same guy that played the Admiral in the TNG episodes "The Best of Both World's part 1 and 2".

Another interesting fact, Sybok was originally cast for Sean Connery, but he was still filming Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade!

[Molina00]

Another interesting fact, Sybok was originally cast for Sean Connery, but he was still filming Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade!

I had heard that too.  Good thing for Connery.  Indie's dad was a much better character in a much better movie.  It would have been interesting to see what Star Trek V would have been like with him though.

[Master Rel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iauuuhpSfRQ

[Aerthias Kodoun]

Hey I've got a question for every Trekkie here...

If you could have a ship for ANY class, AND you could pick the name and registration. What would it be?
Mine would be an Intrepid-Class named the USS Thompson NCC-76031

[Jev Moldara]

Hey I've got a question for every Trekkie here...

If you could have a ship for ANY class, AND you could pick the name and registration. What would it be?
Mine would be an Intrepid-Class named the USS Thompson NCC-76031

Akira-class

NCC-86135

U.S.S. Warspite