My Superhero can beat up your Superhero!

[RLYHYPERGUY]

I hate to say it, but Spider-Man would win in an all-out death match between the two. Spider-Man has superior strength, and while Nightwing was able to go up against the likes of Blockbuster, his advantage in that fight was his speed and agility, in which Spider-Man is his equal or even greater. Nightwing could always try his gadgets, but there's always that annoying Spider-Sense to get in the way.  

Nightwing is awesome, but he can't beat Spider-Man.

However, this is a popularity contest, not an all-out death match! There is still hope. 

[RLYHYPERGUY]

Yes, Spider-Man, would decimate Nightwing, Batman would be a different story (He is more mature about combat, that would be a crazy fight.) but when it comes down too it Spidey has Super Strength, Super Speed, Spider-Sense, the webbing has a tensile strength of 120 lbs per square millimeter in cross-section, I have no idea how to calculate how much weight just four feet of webbing could hold. No amount of gadgets and martial arts training will help Nightwing.

You got me a riled up boy!  
(Just kidding but this is why we are nerds.)

Frankly, no amount of gadgets or martial arts training would help Batman either. Yes, he has beaten each member of the Justice League, but that was with weeks, or even months, of prior planning. There's no time to plan in an all-out death match!

Nightwing is also as equally skilled as Batman (he was even Batman at one point).

[TheHobbitofDune]

I'm still going with Nightwing, lol. Sorry, but I'm too stubborn to believe Spiderman could take him out. Even if he could, he would have to answer to the rest of the Bat Family, and then he would be royally screwed. Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, or Jason Todd vs. Spiderman? Okay, fine, Spiderman will win all three of those fights. Batman? Yeah, Spidey would put up a good fight, but Batman would win eventually. Barbara? Well, she is paralyzed from the waist down, and it would be really low for Spidey to take her on. Cassandra? Pfft. Cassandra would demolish Spidey with ease.

*sigh* Don't you just love how heated these conversations can get?

This is a popularity challenge and not a contest but if it were...Nightwing and Spiderman would be a great pairing IMO.

I never said it was a contest.

[Luna]

Like Rel, I think it would be a draw in a death match and it would be an awesome comic. However... I vote Nightwing. Spidey is great, but I'm a Bat Family fan for life.

[TheHobbitofDune]

Like Rel, I think it would be a draw in a death match and it would be an awesome comic. However... I vote Nightwing. Spidey is great, but I'm a Bat Family fan for life.

*brohoof* 

[RLYHYPERGUY]

I'm still going with Nightwing, lol. Sorry, but I'm too stubborn to believe Spiderman could take him out. Even if he could, he would have to answer to the rest of the Bat Family, and then he would be royally screwed. Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, or Jason Todd vs. Spiderman? Okay, fine, Spiderman will win all three of those fights. Batman? Yeah, Spidey would put up a good fight, but Batman would win eventually. Barbara? Well, she is paralyzed from the waist down, and it would be really low for Spidey to take her on. Cassandra? Pfft. Cassandra would demolish Spidey with ease.

*sigh* Don't you just love how heated these conversations can get?


I never said it was a contest.

I would also. Even though I know that Spider-Man could beat him in a fight I would still support Nightwing 100%. I'm a very loyal person. 

Now if only my vote counted, then we would be all tied up! Grrr

[Master Rel]

Nightwing 2

Spiderman 3


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As for the entire Bat clan...Hobbit Hobbit Hobbit...it seems in all things you have particular ideas of what you like and refuse to see things another way, and that is ok...at least you are consistent.

Beyond the popularity contest...in a life or death situation, out of the writer's hands, Nightwing is still just a man...a world class athlete, but still just a human being...Spiderman is augmented far beyond any range Nightwing could hope to reach.

Anything could happen in a single moment of a given fight, but if fought out a hundred times with a simulator or with a magic reset (no knowledge of prior fights)...I would think Spiderman taking it 85%-90% and that is being generous to Nightwing, actual numbers would most likely be 95%-99%+.

All this secondary talk of Batman, other Robins, Batgirl, Batmite, Batdog, Batcat, and Batbat...let us focus.

Nightwing vs Spiderman...in a no holds barred...millions of lives hang in the balance...if a tie they both die...Spiderman wins.

He is in a different class.

Now that said I like Nightwing very much...they both are centered in the real world and Nightwing is more so a real street level super.

Now you want a more realistic skill vs skill, fist vs fist, type vs type...then I would offer a death match cat and mouse game between Nightwing and Punisher.

I would pay for that one also!

I would also. Even though I know that Spider-Man could beat him in a fight I would still support Nightwing 100%. I'm a very loyal person. 

Now if only my vote counted, then we would be all tied up! Grrr

Nope...because then my vote would count and Spiderman would be one up still lol.

[TheHobbitofDune]

Actually, I do see things from other people's perspectives, but that doesn't mean I have to go with everything someone else says. I seriously can't recall a time where I've refused to see things another way.

[Luna]

As for the entire Bat clan...Hobbit Hobbit Hobbit...it seems in all things you have particular ideas of what you like and refuse to see things another way, and that is ok...at least you are consistent.

Why would you even say that? No need for insults, especially not in a game thread.

Actually, I do see things from other people's perspectives, but that doesn't mean I have to go with everything someone else says. I seriously can't recall a time where I've refused to see things another way.

Exactly... from my point of view, disagreement does not indicate a failure to listen.

[TheHobbitofDune]

Thanks Luna.

Also, I love that gif

[Master Rel]

Why would you even say that? No need for insults, especially not in a game thread.

Exactly... from my point of view, disagreement does not indicate a failure to listen.

Am I missing something?

How is that an insult?

He specifically brought up Batman, Batgirl, etc. would team up or get revenge...I tried to make it a bit funny to avoid hurting feelings.

And disagreement is not a failure to listen...but how about supporting an argument or debate?

It is a silly comicbook game thread...but we were talking about the potential within a comicbook setting...and offering that Nightwing would win because he was a favorite character is hardly a good platform for debate...right?

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Actually, I do see things from other people's perspectives, but that doesn't mean I have to go with everything someone else says. I seriously can't recall a time where I've refused to see things another way.

I have supported you in nearly every thread, even when you went off the road as it were.  If you do not see it then you don't, but no need to leave things open ended.

There was no insult inferred or intended.

It is 100% appropriate to have a strong opinion but in somethings you are beyond stubborn and just say "this is the way I think it is, regardless of any evidence".

Now we are talking about superheroes...from different universes...so even it is could ever be serious talk, it wouldn't be.

If you want specifics from other threads then let us continue with PMs.


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If you believe that your favorite comicbook character is the best no matter what, then that is great...but if it is not reasonable to others then why keep defending it as if it were a plain fact that should not be debated...your point was made.

I brought it back up to make other considerations and comparisons...beyond "I like this guy so he wins".

If you have read all that everyone has said and firmly believe Nightwing would win then that is what you believe...and that is ok...it is your opinion to have...but I offer that you bring more to the debate other than you like him, you are loyal, or because his big brother or little sister would get revenge.

Why...why would Nightwing win...this is the sort of thing I would want to hear/read...not because you like him.

There may be some aspect I do not know about Nightwing and I would love to know more, especially from a fan rather than goggle.

I like Nightwing also...he is bad ass.

But Spiderman is a iconic superhero with superpowers and is a superpowered bad ass.


Getting back to the voting  

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Seriously guys, I love debating just about anything...not arguing, but debating...comparing opinions based upon evidence and facts.

I have no animosity for anyone here in the slightest.

In this case, we are talking comicbook characters...I have been involved with comicbooks since I could read on my own...early 1970-71...so I have opinions about comicbooks all day long and would be happy to discuss many aspects.

But no hate or ill will...just talking guys.

PSS
That gif is hi'larious!

[Master Rel]

Nightwing vs Punisher in a deathmatch...that would be a serious battle.

They have many common elements.

But this offers a much closer power level, skill level, etc.

Not much ground to have a strong case either way, beyond opinion...but I could see Nightwing taking this fight...easy?...no way...could it go either way?...sure.

Would be epic.

[RLYHYPERGUY]

Nightwing vs Punisher in a deathmatch...that would be a serious battle.

They have many common elements.

But this offers a much closer power level, skill level, etc.

Not much ground to have a strong case either way, beyond opinion...but I could see Nightwing taking this fight...easy?...no way...could it go either way?...sure.

Would be epic.

Nightwing vs. Daredevil would also be quite awesome. 

[Master Rel]

Nightwing vs. Daredevil would also be quite awesome. 

Even better than vs Punisher!

No way to call that fight...so close...gadgets vs 360* sense.

Again, I would buy that for a dollar!

 

[TheHobbitofDune]

Personally, I think it would have been better if you had just asked me why I think Nightwing would win and leave out the part about me, because frankly, I found it a bit insulting. I know you don't mean to cause harm, but it happens quite a bit, and I think if you could just work on being less blunt, it would benefit us all. No harsh feelings, but I figured I would just point that out.

As for why I think Nightwing would win, it's simply because of his resourcefulness and his tenacity in battle. I remember reading one comic in which Batman sends Nightwing off on a suicide mission... and Nightwing manages to not only survive, but also takes back control of an entire prison. He also beat up Slade Wilson. Even if Spiderman did beat him, Nightwing would just come back with a new weapon or strategy to beat him. It's similar to how Batman got utterly demolished by Bane, only to come back and take him down.

The reason why I mentioned the Bat Family is because, let's face it, if Nightwing lost a second time, he can just call for backup. Is this unfair for him to do? No, it isn't. Why? Because Spiderman is a meta-human. Besides, realistically, the Bat Family would want revenge either way. Together, they would be able to take Spidey down. You've got Tim Drake's strategic mind, Batman's gadgets, and let's not forget about Cassandra Cain, who is the greatest martial artist in the DC Universe, AND has a sixth sense that works in the same way as Spidey's spider sense.

The final verdict? Hard to say. Have we ever actually seen these two duke it out? No. If Spiderman won, fine, he won, but he would easily get his butt kicked later by the Bat Family. He still won the initial bout though. If Nightwing won, great, he won. We can debate this all day, but until someone actually makes an official comic, it's all just talk.