New to Ultrasabers - Guide me.

[Darth Gorous]

Hi guys.

I am new to this forum and ultrasabers. I am going to order my first saber on friday and i am really looking forward to it.

I was just wondering if you guys could help me out a little? I am stille not sure about which saber I shall purchase.

I am going with a heavy grade blade, maybe an ultraedge heavy grade - though I have heard that the plastic foil inside these blades have a tendency to crumple during heavy duelling.

I am used to the MR sabers, Vader and Luke, and they are quite easy to do spins with. I LOVE to do a lot of tricks and spins with a lightsaber. So i was wondering, which is the right hilt for me? I have been looking at the Aeon V3, but I often read that these are best for two-handed combat. My style is based on one hand while training and two hands during combat - I think. But then I saw the Prophecy V3. The hilt on this saber seems to be more like the "originals" aka MR hilts, which I am used to. I want a saber that is good "all around", so i can use it for spins and combat. I am on a budget, so I cannot afford just any saber. That is why I mention Aeon V3 and Prophecy V3. 

I do apologize for any misspellings or incoherent sentences, but I am from Denmark, so my English is as it is.

Hope you can help me out here. Because i want to choose the right saber.

Thanks.  

[Luna]

Hi guys.

I am new to this forum and ultrasabers. I am going to order my first saber on friday and i am really looking forward to it.

I was just wondering if you guys could help me out a little? I am stille not sure about which saber I shall purchase.

I am going with a heavy grade blade, maybe an ultraedge heavy grade - though I have heard that the plastic foil inside these blades have a tendency to crumple during heavy duelling.

I am used to the MR sabers, Vader and Luke, and they are quite easy to do spins with. I LOVE to do a lot of tricks and spins with a lightsaber. So i was wondering, which is the right hilt for me? I have been looking at the Aeon V3, but I often read that these are best for two-handed combat. My style is based on one hand while training and two hands during combat - I think. But then I saw the Prophecy V3. The hilt on this saber seems to be more like the "originals" aka MR hilts, which I am used to. I want a saber that is good "all around", so i can use it for spins and combat. I am on a budget, so I cannot afford just any saber. That is why I mention Aeon V3 and Prophecy V3. 

I do apologize for any misspellings or incoherent sentences, but I am from Denmark, so my English is as it is.

Hope you can help me out here. Because i want to choose the right saber.

Thanks.  

No need to apologize for your English, I didn't see any problems.

As for the film inside the blades - heavy grade blades have less visible wrinkling than midgrades.

Aeons are quite easy to wield one-handed or two-handed. Prophecies are best for one-handed use, IMO.

Personally, I recommend the Aeon V3.

[Sky Dragon c5]

I would actually say liberator if you are doing a fair bit of one handed. Its smother than a prophesy and easy to wield.

But if you are doing more two handed then Aeon or Dominix

[Master Venturous]

Aeons are quite easy to wield one-handed or two-handed. Prophecies are best for one-handed use, IMO.

Personally, I recommend the Aeon V3.

As do I. The Aeon V3 has two choke points. You can use one for doing one-handed spins and such and use both for when you're holding it two-handed while dueling. The Prophecy V3 is nice for one-handed things, but you might need a different pommel for a better two-handed grip on it. As for blades, the mid-grade blades are lighter, so if you prefer spinning and don't think you'll be doing a lot of dueling, I'd go with a mid-grade blade. However, if at any point you think you'll be doing any heavy dueling, then I would go with the heavy-grade just to be safe. In terms of whether or not to go ultra edge or standard, that is your choice. The ultra edge blades make the blade look fuller and sometimes a bit brighter. The standard blades give the "light-in-a-tube" effect that some would say look more like the original trilogy sabers. I've heard that if you want your saber to look like those from the original trilogy (Episodes 4, 5, and 6), then get the standard blades. If you want your saber to look like those from the first three episodes (1, 2, and 3), then go with the ultra edge option. Here is a quick and simple guide to the blade combinations:

Standard Mid Grade: Good for spinning, looks good when on display due to silver blade appearance, and ok for light dueling. Bad for heavy dueling and gives the "light-in-a-tube" effect.

Ultra Edge Mid Grade: Good for spinning, makes the blade look fuller and a bit brighter in some cases. Ok for light dueling, but doesn't look as good on display due to white blade appearance.

Standard Heavy Grade: Excellent for heavy dueling, looks good on display, although still gives the "light-in-a-tube" effect. Also a bit more awkward for spins due to heavier blade.

Ultra Edge Heavy Grade: Excellent for heavy dueling, fuller blade, slightly brighter in some cases. Heavier blade will be a bit more awkward for spins because of the adjusted balance point and won't look as good on display due to white blade appearance.


Hope all that helped make your decision. I personally prefer the Ultra Edge Heavy Grade blades because they make the blade look fuller and more like a lightsaber (in my opinion), as well as offering excellent dueling capabilities.

[Darth Gorous]

Thank you so much guys.

I am going for the heavy grade no matter what, due to the fact that me and my mate are going to duel quite a bit.
I grew up with the original trilogy, so if the heavy grade looks more like that rather than the UEHG then I am going for the heavy grade.

The liberator V3 do look quite good too, so if that is the hilt for me then I will go with that.

Again, I love(need) to do wields and spins with the saber, like i can do with the MR's, otherwise the saber i kind of useless to me.
I wish I could be more specific. Still I really appreciate your help. Hope you will still guide me through this. But I would love to have a very diverse saber.

Going for a red blade(heavy grade) due to the fact that I am Mr. Prowse biggest fan.

[Manroon]

If you are used to Luke and Vader MR hilts, then the Prophecy would probably be the best starter for you. It's shorter, but of similar style. The only real difference is that it's smaller, a little more streamlined, and has a button instead of a control box. It's also a great spinning hilt! I used it as my first, as have many others, and it's a solid hilt I still love. I say go for the Prophecy!

Also, your English is very good! And welcome to the forums! It's always cool to see how far around the world Star Wars and sabers actually travel!

Edit: Reading your last post, definitely agree you should go for a plain Heavy Grade. I too am a BIG fan of the Original Trilogy and that's my favorite blade. Looks the most like the old movie effects. And again, the Prophecy seems to suit your tastes best. It's designed along very similar lines to the Anakin Episode II and Vader hilts, so it's just that same style. Actually, with a little painting and some rubber grips, you could make a decent Vader Copycat from one! lol

[Master Venturous]

I also forgot to mention that (if you can afford it) the Lithium Ion battery setup is the best way to go in terms of brightness. I have heard that if you choose the standard setup, the brightness will slowly fade and/or change colors slightly as the batteries die. However, with the Lithium Ion batteries, the brightness stays bright pretty much up until the batteries die. They are also rechargeable, so you don't have to spend a lot on batteries. If you can afford it, I'd definitely get the Lithium Ion battery setup with whatever saber you choose. Good luck to you and your purchase.

[Master Bluespike74]

Thank you so much guys.

I am going for the heavy grade no matter what, due to the fact that me and my mate are going to duel quite a bit.
I grew up with the original trilogy, so if the heavy grade looks more like that rather than the UEHG then I am going for the heavy grade.

The liberator V3 do look quite good too, so if that is the hilt for me then I will go with that.

Again, I love(need) to do wields and spins with the saber, like i can do with the MR's, otherwise the saber i kind of useless to me.
I wish I could be more specific. Still I really appreciate your help. Hope you will still guide me through this. But I would love to have a very diverse saber.

Going for a red blade(heavy grade) due to the fact that I am Mr. Prowse biggest fan.

I would highly recommend purchasing either the Dark Prophecy or Dark Liberator.  If you are going Blazing Red, purchase the Heavy Grade blade without Ultra Edge.  To make your blade easier to use, I highly suggest writing in the comments of your order that you would like the blade to be 32" rather than 36".  Makes spinning much easier and helps balance the weight better.  

Below is a list of pros and cons of each saber:

Liberator Pros:
1.  Great concave grip for one handed spins.
2.  Long enough to be used as a two hand hilt.
3.  Palace emitter is very eye catchy.

Liberator Cons:
1.  Does not look like a Vader hilt.
2.  No covertech knob for costuming unless you pay extra.

Prophecy Pros:
1.  Looks like a Vader hilt.
2.  Has great choke points for spinning.
3.  Has a covertech knob standard for costuming.

Prophecy Cons:
1.  A little short for two hand battle
2.  Some complain that the covertech knob gets in the way when two hand dueling.


Both are great hilts but it is going to come down to whether or not you value looks over functionality.  If you are more interested in looks, go with the Prophecy.  If you are more interested in functionality, go with the Liberator.

Blue

[AlthaxX]

I currently own a set of Dominix V2's and a prophecy V3. i am in love with the prophecy for anything one handed, the dominix sabers make a great 2 hander and balance great ofr one hanfer or duel wield. the prophecy is by far my favorite hilt for usability and look that i have handled personally.

[Master Venturous]

I'll address two problems that were mentioned with the Prophecy V3. Both problems have a solution, although you have to pay for them.

Problem #1: The prophecy is not long enough for a two-handed grip.
Solution: You can easily add a different pommel onto the end of it to extend its reach. If you use the standard pommel that comes with the prophecy, then yes it is mainly going to be a one-handed weapon, but by getting a different pommel, you can extend that a bit more. Granted it's not going to give you another full handed grip, but it will give you enough to allow for two hands to hold it comfortably.

Problem #2: The covertec wheel is in an awkward place for a two-handed grip. This is one problem I saw immediately with this saber hilt and one that can easily be fixed.
Solution: The easiest and free way to this problem is to simply turn the hilt over so the covertec is facing the other way, rather than having it dig into your palm. Another option if it's still in the way, is to have Ultrasabers place it somewhere else when you order it. I contacted Emory about this and he said there is a fee of $10 you can pay to have the covertec wheel moved so it's not in the way. Again, if you add a different pommel on the end, you might be able to bypass this problem completely by having your hand rest under the wheel and not over it.

Just wanted to address those problems and offer some solutions to them. As others have said, the Prophecy V3 is a gorgeous looking hilt and very vader-esque, especially the Dark Prophecy.

[Darth Gorous]

All of you make excellent points. I really appreciate your help and your extreme knowledge regarding these sabers. And I have to say that you guys really make one feel welcome, so thanks a bunch.

I have just been measurring my vader Ep. 4 MR saber and as far as I can tell the Liberator V3 meets my needs. And as Blue wrote; it depends on whether you prefer looks over functionality and visa versa. And i do prefer functionality.

But it's not friday yet, so I will read all of your posts with great interest and take all of your thoughts into consideration.

Thanks.

[Sky Dragon c5]

I went for Libbyas my first because it balanced functionality and style.

I do though have a Dominix and a Aeon for dueling and spinning because I found I used two hands a lot, but that is mainly because of a martial arts background.

Personally I skipped on a prophesy for now because Ill get a full on Graflex later on to have as a detailed show piece.

[Master Venturous]

Also take into account the amount (if any) of customization you will be doing to your hilts. As I've said in other posts, simple looking sabers usually lend themselves more to customizations, rather than intricate hilts. The Prophecy is already a sweet looking hilt, but is still customizable to a degree. The Liberator is a VERY simple looking hilt, as is a Standard Issue, Aeon, or Dominix. However, because of their simplicity, you can usually do whatever you want to them and as such, they can be customized a great deal more than something like a Prophecy or a Graflex. If you aren't going to do any customizing at all, then again it comes down to what you think looks good and in your case, what you think will FEEL good in your hands. But if you plan to do any heavy customizing, you might want to look more toward the simple hilts like the Libby and others. Remember that the weapon should be a personal expression of you.....at least until you buy your next one.

[Master Nero Attoru]

Prophecy is a great choice in general.  Unless you have rather large hands, you'll find that it's easily wielded with both single and double handed grips, and it does definitely resemble the Anakin/Luke/Vader style of hilt.  My Dark Prophecy V3 is currently my favorite hilt, and my go-to battle saber.

[eerockk]

Prophecy is a great choice in general.  Unless you have rather large hands, you'll find that it's easily wielded with both single and double handed grips, and it does definitely resemble the Anakin/Luke/Vader style of hilt.  My Dark Prophecy V3 is currently my favorite hilt, and my go-to battle saber.

I'll second this. When my son lets me use his, it's comfy, light, super-controllable with one or two hands, and my middle fingertip fits comfortably on the covertec wheel. I've not yet held a Liberator for comparison, but I have larger hands, and the Prophecy fits them both comfortably. (A Dark Prophecy would indeed give a Vader-y feel ).

I also use heavy grade blades and I find that the Prophecy feels a little more out of balance with a heavy blade installed against a Bellicose or an Overlord. It spins easily with a heavy grade installed though, and like anything,  any awkwardness you have at first will disappear with practice and time. The same would hold true for the Liberator as well. On an anecdote, my Bellicose hurt my hand when I held/used it for the first two weeks that I owned it, but months later, my hand feels as though it was made for it, and this beast of a saber I use is becoming a part of me. Whatever hilt you end up putting that heavy grade blade in, I promise you'll be very pleased with it. 

Welcome as well!