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« on: March 20, 2013, 03:16:58 AM »

Hello my fellow forumers. One of the more recent hobbies I've become interested in has been Photography, and as such, I've learned quite a bit about how cameras work and how to achieve different effects with them. Here I wanted to take my knowledge and show you all how to photograph lightsabers the way you want to. I've seen a lot of pictures on the forums of sabers with that white core in the middle of the blade and very few of how the blade actually looks. In this topic I'm going to give you all tips on how to capture different effects of a lightsaber blade and the camera settings used to create those effects. Mostly this is going to be a comparison of pictures so you can see what settings are causing what effects. To create the effects you want, it is best to have a camera that has a Manual Mode, which allows you to adjust ISO, Aperture, and Shutter Speed settings. A camera with such functionality will give you the most control over your images and, in turn, the best results. These pictures were taken with a Nikon D7000. Let's get started.

Note: All shots were shot in a dark room where the only light source was the blade itself.





The most standard photo I see is a picture in which the saber looks almost white with a bit of color coming off the edges, kind of like this:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 3.5, Shutter Speed 10 seconds, ISO 800

Now note, the saber in this pic is supposed to be blood red (as it looks in person), but the camera is taking that color and turning it a very bright orange color because of the intensity and the sensitivity of the camera sensor. Now granted, this image is still better than most in terms of capturing the true color, because most cameras take that orange and make it completely white. At least here there is some color left, even though it is the wrong color. Also, you'll notice that this picture is not sharp at all. That is because a Shutter Speed of 10 seconds was used, which captures even the slightest bit of motion, either from the camera or from the subject. As I can't remain completely still when breathing, this image turned out very blurry. This is something we can use to our advantage, which I will show a little later.


What happens when we don't want that white core, or in this case orange core to the lightsaber? Obviously we have to adjust our camera settings. I have found that by reducing the Shutter Speed, one is able to get a bit closer to the actual color of a lightsaber, because light is not hitting the camera sensor as long and therefore not exposing the shot as much.

Here is a pic with a slightly reduced Shutter Speed:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 3.5, Shutter Speed 5 seconds, ISO 800

You will notice that this pic has almost the same blade effect as the previous shot, however if you look to the edges of the blade, there is a bit more red creeping in, as well as a hint of red near the top of the saber. You'll also notice that the image is a bit sharper. This is because the Shutter Speed has been reduced from 10 seconds to 5 seconds, which means the camera sensor is being exposed to light in a shorter amount of time. This causes the image to be sharper because there is less time to introduce motion blur to the image, as well as providing more of the true color of the blade.

If we drop the Shutter Speed even more, you will see this effect happening again:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 3.5, Shutter Speed 1/8 seconds, ISO 800

Notice in this shot that there is significantly more red appearing in the blade and the overall shot is much darker. Again, this is because light is not being exposed to the camera sensor as long, which makes the image darker and does not allow the same amount of light to be exposed for the blade, giving us a truer color for it.

If we take this effect even further, we can now achieve the true color of the blade without that inner core of light:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 3.5, Shutter Speed 1/10 seconds, ISO 800

As you can see, all we are doing is decreasing the Shutter Speed of these shots, which in turn reduces the amount of light exposed to the camera and gives us more of the true color of the blade each time. In this last shot, you can see the blade as I see it with my eyes, without that inner core effect that is usually present from a camera, be it white or orange. You will also see that only the blade is visible in this shot. Again, this is because the Shutter Speed is fast enough to allow only the light from the blade to be shown and does not show the light hitting the background or myself, which was right next to the blade.

What we've learned: The slower the Shutter Speed of the camera is, the more of that inner core will be visible and the more motion blur will appear in your images. If you do not want either one, making the Shutter Speed faster will both reduce the amount of blur and give you sharper images, as well as give you an image with a more accurate blade color.

Now, if we take this concept the other direction, we can them experiment with creating what is known on the forums as "light paintings". Light paintings are when the Shutter Speed is increased to allow light to hit the camera sensor for a longer amount of time while moving with the saber. So in essence, we are taking that evil motion blur from before and making it work to our advantage now.

Here is a basic light painting shot:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 8, Shutter Speed 3 seconds, ISO 800

As you can see, with a Shutter Speed of 3 seconds, any motion created during the shot will create this effect in which the saber blurs. The more you move during the shot, the more motion will be captured.

Here is a second shot using this technique:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 3.5, Shutter Speed 10, ISO 800

In this shot, I increased the Shutter Speed by 7 seconds, which allowed more time for motion to be captured. As such, you can see that there is a great deal more motion in the shot and the effect is much brighter. This is an important point to remember. With a longer exposure time, any motion REPEATED in the same area will appear brighter than if that motion is repeated only once. This means that if I spin a saber once through the air in a specific area during a 10 second exposure, you're only going to see the motion created from that one swing, which will probably be quite dark. However, if I were to repeat that spin in the same area over the course of those 10 seconds, the final image will appear much brighter because more motion has been captured from each swing. This means that you pretty much have total control over what areas are brighter than others when doing a light painting using this technique.

Finally, here is an image in which a saber staff is being swung REPEATEDLY in the same pattern over the course of the shot:


Settings used for this shot: Aperture 22, Shutter Speed 10, ISO 2500

Now for this shot, the settings I used were different because this was shot on a different day. However, the same concept is still at work because the settings balance out to give roughly the same effect. A Shutter Speed of 10 seconds is still being used in this shot and it is capturing every motion I introduce during the exposure. I was using a saber staff and doing a series of two spins repeatedly during the course of the shot, which gives the overall shot a very bright and artistic look to it. The saber seems to be dancing around me because the camera sensor is capturing each motion as it moves around my body. This is the concept for creating light paintings.


I hope you have enjoyed this little lesson in Saber Photography and I look forward to seeing how you all use it. Perhaps we will start to see pictures with more of the true colors of the sabers with less of that white core, even though that is still a nice effect in and of itself. Cheers! Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2013, 03:27:28 AM »

Thanks for the tips!
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2013, 11:22:03 PM »

I wish the sabers actually had the "white core" effect.  Looks awesome like that on camera, but to each their own.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 12:15:44 AM »

I wish they did too because I like that look, but there are many people on the forums who want to see the true color of the blade before buying in a specific color. Using these techniques, you can also achieve that white core effect by using a longer shutter speed if that is the effect you're looking for.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 12:29:36 AM »

I am so incredibly glad and thankful you posted something like this.

I never could understand shutters and intensities and ISO's and what not so I'm glad you gave us an example with photos and what settings you shot them at.

I've been trying to get an affect like the last image for literally years, but to no avail.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 01:28:35 AM »

I shot trains at night with 30 second exposures at f2.8 or f5.6, and sadly, since I've wanted to try some light painting with the saber, the tripod broke! Curse the luck. Here's what trains look like in the dark with 30 second exposures. Smiley

http://s1234.photobucket.com/user/EeRocKK/library/RFH%20Photos/Nighttime%20Railroad%20Long%20Exposure%20Photography

Great tips, man! Can't wait to see the ensuing saberpr0n that comes from this!
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2013, 01:42:21 AM »

Nice. Thanks for the tips. I will be using the first setting you gave. 800 iso and 10 second shutter speed. I really like the effects. I shall try this tonight. I got a digital camera with all the goodie settings. Lol.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2013, 02:16:30 AM »

One thing I will say is to keep in mind that all my shots were done in a completely dark room with no other light source. If you are shooting outside with more lights, your settings might be different to achieve the same effect. Whenever possible, try to use a smaller ISO to avoid camera noise that creeps in at higher ISO settings. Also I encourage everyone to experiment with their settings, because that is where the fun comes from and different settings will lead to slightly different effects.
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2013, 04:27:15 AM »

Also I don't think my camera has an aperture of 3.5 or 22. Unless you used a different setting? I usually use manual for everything. I'll look around though. I have the Fujifilm 24x zoom camera you can get basically at walmart. Lol. Its a good camera though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2013, 05:14:57 AM »

When it comes to photographing lightsabers, your Shutter Speed is the most important setting to consider. ISO and Aperture are mostly there to balance out the lighting for any given shot. So for instance if you are trying to get a shot of the blade's true color without the white core effect (say you're using a Shutter Speed of 1/10 seconds) and your image is coming out brighter than you'd like, you can either drop your ISO setting or raise your Aperture setting to allow less light into the camera. If it's coming out too dark, you would do the reverse (raising your ISO or dropping your Aperture) in order to allow more light into the camera. Sometimes both are required in order to balance the shot properly, especially with cheaper cameras that don't have high setting ranges. So really you must learn to work within the limits of your camera's settings. If your camera doesn't have an Aperture of 3.5 or 22, then you may have to do a combination of raising or lowering your Aperture value along with your ISO setting to balance for the lighting condition. Always make Shutter Speed your first priority though, since it is the controlling factor when photographing lightsabers and controls the effect you get from them. There are two ways of doing this which are mentioned below:

Shutter Priority Setting
You can use your camera's Shutter Priority setting (if it has it) in order to dial in a specific Shutter Speed and allow the camera to automatically set the Aperture and ISO values in order to balance the shot for the given lighting condition. This is not my preferred way however, because you can't really make small lighting adjustments (making the shot slightly darker or slightly brighter) without the camera automatically adjusting to it. This method is the next best thing if your camera doesn't have Manual Mode, but does not allow full control over your shots.

Full Manual Mode with Shutter Speed as Priority
The difference here is putting your camera into full Manual Mode and setting your Shutter Speed first. Once set, you then make adjustments to your Aperture and/or ISO until the camera's light meter tells you the shot is balanced in terms of light. From there, you can then make small adjustments (if you need to) in order to brighten or darken the image without the camera changing any other settings to compensate. Whenever possible, try to get your ISO as low as possible, because a high ISO will give your image a grainy look and will start to introduce noise into the image.


In terms of the camera's light meter, mine is always set to reading the light from the entire image. This setting is called Evaluative on Nikon I think and Matrix on Canon cameras, although that could be reversed. I'm not sure what it's called or if you can even change it on other camera models. Basically what it does is takes an overall light reading from the entire image you're wanting to shoot and bases your camera settings off of it. So for example, if you are in a completely black room and try to focus, the camera's light meter will see nothing but black and will probably adjust your settings to allow the most light into the camera as possible. This will result in a very long Shutter Speed, and very wide Aperture (3.5 or a smaller number), and a high ISO setting. If you're on a beach on a sunny day, the reverse will happen. The camera will read a lot of light and will give you settings to darken the image. It's important to know how your camera is reading the lighting condition in order to know how to adjust your settings.

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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 02:45:38 AM »

I like to use the manual setting at 5 seconds and ISO 800. Makes the color edge pop out more I think. My camera doesn't really allow me to raise my aperture unfortunately. u.u It only does 1.5 and 8.0.  And I guess I had my shutter speed at 10. Should I try doing the 8.0 for aperture?
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 03:34:02 AM »

Hey if your camera has it you should use f-mode. Pictures turn out way more clearer with that on. Try it out sometime just for fun.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2013, 04:37:51 AM »

Thanks for the photography tips! I have an old Fujifilm bridge cam, its pretty decent though- at least its good at high speed shots (got an awesome one of a rally car with three wheels in the air lol), but never had much need to take slower shots so this will help I'm sure!
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2013, 05:41:14 AM »

Hey if your camera has it you should use f-mode. Pictures turn out way more clearer with that on. Try it out sometime just for fun.

I'm not sure what f-mode is. I assume you mean Aperture mode, since Aperture is based in terms of f-stops. I've never heard it called f-mode before though. If that is what it is, then the pictures are coming out clearer because you're using a small f-stop number (something around 8+ I would imagine), which translates to a larger depth of field and images where more is in focus. Using a large f-stop number (4 or less) results in a shallower depth of field, which means there is a very small portion in the image where things can be in focus and appear sharp. I have used Aperture mode to take pics of sabers, but I find I have much more control and variability with effects when using Manual mode. But if you like using Aperture mode, then by all means use it. In the end the only thing that matters is that you capture the shots you like.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2013, 05:52:52 AM »

I like to use the manual setting at 5 seconds and ISO 800. Makes the color edge pop out more I think. My camera doesn't really allow me to raise my aperture unfortunately. u.u It only does 1.5 and 8.0.  And I guess I had my shutter speed at 10. Should I try doing the 8.0 for aperture?

One thing I noticed when I had a camera similar to yours was that when I backed up and zoomed in on a image, it gave me different Aperture values. For instance, you say your Aperture is either 1.5 or 8.0. On my previous camera, I was able to back up and zoom in to achieve the same framing, but achieved different Aperture values because of the zoom. I'm not sure that all cameras like yours do that, but it's worth a shot. If it's not possible with yours, then I would say leave the Aperture at 8.0 and work your settings around from there. An Aperture of 1.5 will give you a VERY small depth of field to work with, which will translate to a lot of your image being out of focus or blurry if not on a flat surface. An Aperture of 8.0 however will mean you have a larger depth of field and more of the image will be in focus. However, the 8.0 setting will reduce the amount of light the camera gathers for the shot, so you'll either have to lengthen your Shutter Speed or raise your ISO to compensate for the amount of lost light.
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